Yeah Potter should be far down on the backup options list
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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At this point I would be more than happy to see rough diamonds every week if they are, in essence, more suited to the system than the experienced players. Trouble is, we have a lack of elite quality in every position, in one way or another, which, I’m afraid, extends throughout the whole squad. The players we have could be set up and drilled in a way so as to maximise points, minimise defeats, minimise goals conceded. The football would be regressive and the end result would be marginally different.
Looking at the teams we’re up against, fourth should be possible but nothing we can do with these players will make that easy. They are not good enough.
Back to your point, I’d rather EtH sticks to his principles even if he “crashes and burns” than any realistic alternative I can think of.
To be fair we pressed well 3 times in the first half and had perfect opportunity to capitalise but kept choosing the wrong option (McTominay weak shot rather than play Hojlund in). There's a distinct lack of conviction in what we do
I'm just not sure anyone can with this group of players. They're beyond shite, and stupid to boot.
Sorry, Im not gonna do your homework for you.
You said there “loads of options”.
So nail your colors down…who’s doing a better job at the minute ?
Massive mistake. And that is not hindsight, it was. As was the £60m for Mason Mount who we didn't need. And the £47.2m for Onana, when we had a good keeper in De Gea. A club that has to borrow to spend, could use that £47.2m on Onana and the £85m on Hojlund and get a proven player in .... Harry Kane. And still have money to spare. £70m for Casemiro I always felt was a mistake mainly because of the length of his contract. A four year contract for a 30-year-old with an option to extend to a fifth is absolutely mental. And it is not the first time we have made sensationally crazy recruitment decisions. Weghorst anyone? The showpony that is Antony for an eyewatering £82m who had worse stats than Gakpo at a better club in the same Dutch league at the time.
Only Chelsea have a more crazed vision on recruitment. But even Chelsea are not spending stupid money on old players. Actually, Chelsea are not a good example of a club spending wisely, as we all know..
Potter? Yikes.
Would struggle to do worse than Southgate and Potter. Give Carrick a crack before those 2 jokers.
Would struggle to do worse than Southgate and Potter. Give Carrick a crack before those 2 jokers.
They haven't won any of their last four league games, have conceded more goals in the league than any team higher than 17th, and he does weird pointless squad rotation every game.
Who then? Who from this huge pool are you replacing him with ?
Because they're set up to look shite. The gaps between the defence and midfield, or midfield and forwards are huge and we're relying on individual brilliance to get us a result.
He is shite though
They comfortably battered Ajax the other night with 65% possession.
He shouldn’t be on the list.
Whoever is on the list will need YEARS to sort this mess out. We all need to wake up to that.
Do you think if Postecoglu or De Zerbi or Unai Emery came in now (and I don't know they would touch the club with a barge pole if it wasn't for the money) that they would do anything with this bunch of prima donna misfits?
Ajax are literally the worst team in the Dutch league right now.
Ajax are bottom of the Dutch league.
Why is anyone talking about options to replace Ten Hag. Things need to change but I have always said it is a top to bottom thing. The club is toxic. Good players and managers come here to die - and laugh all the way to the bank.
Come on, they gave up after 60 minutes today and resorted to sulking and charging around trying to nail people- and that's his skipper!That doesn't mean he's lost the players
You know you've lost the players when they literally stop bothering to run and play. Not when they still hunt for wins, win 3 on the bounce despite lacking confidence and then lose comprehensively today.
These players down tools all the time and it is getting boring now it really is. No manager has a chance.
It might, but it will improve year on year like it should and we'll all be fine with it. Instead of this one step forward, two steps back approach we currently do.
Yeah he’s managing Brighton who sell their best player every 6 months yet continues to play good football regardless of having to start Welbeck, Lallana and Milner regularly
They’re still 7th in the league by the way, above us.
This is true. But if they don't turn it around in 18 months they will be sacked. It's a hell of a selling point.
Same group finished 3rd with a trophy though?
it is very unfortunate because I thought he is the one. i thinks that Ajax team made him look good. but looking back now how he lost those Spurs, Chelsea and Banfica games, it demostrate his obvious poor game managment.
The only time we've looked remotely decent this season is when those two weren't playing though. It's also the game in which we scored the most goals. So, what's the logic in not trying that lineup again?
Someone who can actually coach players at the top level. We signed David Moyes, two coaches who were well past their best (one who was 15 years past their best) and an ex-player with no experience whatsoever.
This is not a good pool from which to draw the conclusion “it won’t work with anyone”
This is awful and has been for some time. He can’t coach the players to carry out instructions on the pitch. He can’t even have them going into a season fit. He is failing at the very basics.
He got his players, spent his 400 million and made the team worse. There is absolutely no way anyone can say, despite the problems at board level, that no one could have done any better.
Top organizations need to be decisive. He should be sacked this evening. It’s ridiculous he is still here.
Could they be worse? For whatever reason the players aren't doing what Ten Hag wants them to (his words). Maybe they will for someone they don't dislike?
He fecked up big time today in my opinion, he looks like a man defeated
That's assuming they're not too thick to properly execute what they're being told to.
I'm not denying we're unbelievably shite now, but I'm just beyond expecting anything different from these players with a different manager.
After 60 mins today, yeah. A circumstance of the drubbing rather than them not giving Sa shit about the manager. Which is why it's not happening in general YET.
I think he’d actually be a good youth coach, that’s also where he originated from and is probably what he’s best at. His coaching methods seem to be akin to a PE teacher, asking his players to run 14 km after a loss, trying to play his favorites into form and persisting with older, more experienced group leaders because he dare not question them, but occasionally standing up to those that question him in order to gain some authority among the rest of group.
He’s definitely not a manager for a top club, and the amount of time we give him is not going to change that. I expect him to finish the season, and probably even get a new contract in the meantime, and we may actually get on a decent run of form at some point but in the long run we will never win anything relevant with him. May get another cup here and there if we don’t have to play anyone good on the path to final, mind.
He’s definitely not a manager for a top club, and the amount of time we give him is not going to change that. I expect him to finish the season, and probably even get a new contract in the meantime, and we may actually get on a decent run of form at some point but in the long run we will never win anything relevant with him. May get another cup here and there if we don’t have to play anyone good on the path to final, mind.
And they're still a big scalp for a team like Brighton. No one says we're shit when they batter us. They could have scored more for what it's worth, they were great.
It's not the time to replace him. We have to let him get through this season. Plenty of time to make top 4. Need to get key players back.
Sacking him achieves nothing at this point. You think some other manager is going to come in and get the team working with that XI, against City? Please.
Hes here for the foreseeable, the players need to start playing for him.
Sacking him achieves nothing at this point. You think some other manager is going to come in and get the team working with that XI, against City? Please.
Hes here for the foreseeable, the players need to start playing for him.
Yep, I think more people are going to come around to this in the coming weeks. Will be very difficult for him come Christmas time.
Ten Hag needs to go now. It's his 2nd season
no style of play
Ang and Brighton manager are doing it in their 1st season. That's nothing to do at board level but coaching on the training ground.
no style of play
Ang and Brighton manager are doing it in their 1st season. That's nothing to do at board level but coaching on the training ground.
Newcastle, Liverpool and Villa in December. Might be the end of him if results don’t start going his way
It will be more of the same because the squad is a mess and not fit for purpose. Was vital he got recruitment right and he's blown it.
Hardly the same group tbf. We're missing two of our most important defenders, in addition to our best defensive right back, and our second best CB is an unreliable crock.
I am willing to write off one or two seasons for Potter to create the foundation when I voted him here then. Why not?
Keeping to wash and rinse every two years is more damaging than a true reset.
Today is the day I get why people are done with him. I don't know jack shite, but I do know there was stupid shite done today.
They're not that bad, some of the players have proven before that in the right setup and environment they can do great things. Right now he's playing to no one's strengths because he doesn't trust the defence or his new signings. It's panic stations football every game. There's zero trust.
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