This project seems completely dead.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Rashford, Martial, McTominay and Shaw have downed tools before, yes. They all have extended spells where they shut down mentally and look totally disinterested on the pitch.
A good start is dumping every player like this.
I don't agree. The spell between World Cup and Carabao cup we were controlling games and we looked organised - especially against the smaller teams (our biggest weakness over the years). It may not have been top tier (yet) but it was definitely a step in the right direction. What he's doing now, however, is worrying.
What are the excuses for this shit on the stick football?
Let's be honest no manager that thinks Antony is worth £80m after training him is good enough.
Let's be honest no manager that thinks Antony is worth £80m after training him is good enough.
He doesnt have a fecking clue how to put a decent attacking football side together.
It will be a cricket score.
Starting to look more and more like it was less Ten Hag and more Casemiro and Rashford carrying us last season. Their form has dropped and we can barely create against a Danish side.
Please tell me what’s his football.
Watched the Spurs game last night. Either Maddison or Ange mentioned that when he joined pressing would be non-negotiable. That’s per much what I saw.
Thought that’s what we were supposed to get? Ange can create that in a matter of months?
Awful
Thought that’s what we were supposed to get? Ange can create that in a matter of months?
Awful
I wouldn't say just like that. There are explanations.
Bad transfers, lots of off-field noise (Sancho, ownership, Antony, etc.), injury crisis, bad coaching, and players with a piss poor mentality or quality.
State of this thread and posters. Worst of the worst of the cafe at large
Thought he'd turn it around but it's looking ominous now. He's clearly lost the dressing room.77% of the caf want this shite to continue
77% of the caf want this shite to continue
Manager can do no wrong cult in full force. Backed the likes of Moyes too
Why the hell do certain players start week in week out. Shit management and it will cost him his job
One of the most strange signings we have made. ETH is quite clueless.
We play the worst football in the Premier League by far……..
The reason he is being so stubborn with these tactics is because he has bought a team to play these tactics…
or in other words he has bought players incapable of playing his preferred system, which just so happens to be a system that nullifies all the strengths of our best players.
changing it admits he was wrong.
or in other words he has bought players incapable of playing his preferred system, which just so happens to be a system that nullifies all the strengths of our best players.
changing it admits he was wrong.
Genuinely didn’t expect this shit football from us. It’s so boring and the only chance looks likely to come from individual brilliance. I might change my vote soon
Yeah. I’m sick of the players here that he didn’t sign though. Looks like a lot of them have downed tools. Again.
No they don't, they just have some common sense and are not reactionary Andies.77% of the caf want this shite to continue
Because of the issues with getting players in, still having Ronaldo around and then the bad first couple of results it seemed like he ditched his vision for the time being to make us a more functional team, going back to what we were good at under Ole, and it worked. The point was that wasn't what we appointed him for, it was to make us look like a properly coached team with an ability to play exciting football which Ole was never capable of implementing.
He got his key signings early this season but they don't look good and more importantly we don't look like a well coached team, that was the main reason we went for him and it's not evident at all in our play and we've been bad in pretty much every game (barring against a weakened Palace side in the League Cup). As long as it doesn't get too ugly over the next few weeks then he deserves the chance to get some of his defenders back to see if that improves things but we're not enjoyable to watch right now and there's growing concerns that he's not the manager we hoped for, even if we win tonight which we probably still will.
One of the most infuriating things. The gulf between how people perceive him and the way the team performs is enormous. Guy has the benefit of the doubt/credit usually reserved for all conquering multiple CL winning managers. Crazy.
I'm not even saying people should be like "sack, sack, sack!" but sometimes it feels as though he gets a criticism free ride
Nonsense, he is way too stubborn to change it around. He created this mess himself.
Yeah the evidence keeps piling up. We’ll probably win this but you just can’t ignore these performances.
Shaw and Martinez are big losses but it shouldn’t be this much of a drop off.
Give me strength. He did little wrong last season, clear progress. He's done lots right. Nobody's happy with our current form. The entire fan base should be baying for the axe 2 months in to current season without regard for the myriad of issues beyond his control? Or we're a 'cult'??
We had a piss easy run in the carabao cup, and then played newcastle and didn't dominate. In a majority of our games we didn't even control possession in the league.
The one other constant with the Glazers. A low quality fanbase who eggs/backs the clubs stupidest decisions time and time again.
It's so obvious he's done as the players have stopped playing for him, but he'll get at least 3-4 more months.
He has to be bolder in his selections to save his job. Fergie knew about new blood and injecting energy. This team is depressed, fans are wanting action on the pitch. Take team sulk off.
I was hinting at it...but you can't say he's under threat on here. It was a ridiculous view when we lost however many in a row apparently..Sunday is only a few days away
1000%. This is his own doing. It’s like his going out of his way to deploy every single player in a role that exposes all of their biggest flaws, and nullifies all of their biggest weapons.
Apart from getting utterly humiliated in away from home in multiple games.
He will be sacked after the season has well and truly been nuked because that is what Man Utd are as a club nowadays. But a new football director hopefully comes in under the new ownership structure, and has time to clear out a lot of these dud players.
Relying on individual brilliance, no system, sticking to same underperforming players every week, cant beat a low block, shit results most weeks, shit performances when we do scrape a win.
Could be forgiven for thinking we were back in 2021
Could be forgiven for thinking we were back in 2021
This is it for me. I don’t even care about the result tonight. He needs to go.
He has had plenty of time and resources and he hasn’t been able to implement anything even remotely resembling a positive style of football. We look absolutely clueless against absolute minnows.
Nobody knows what do to. We don’t press as a team. We have no attacking patterns. We just pass the ball around until we lose it or hoof it away. Defensively, we look as shaky as ever.
There’s no midfield because EtH hasn’t prioritised it. Our expensive new keeper is a complete fraud. And Antony is diabolical.
This is not about tonight but the whole season and big parts of last. We’re poor. Simples as. And I’m struggling to think of a team we wouldn’t struggle against.
He has had plenty of time and resources and he hasn’t been able to implement anything even remotely resembling a positive style of football. We look absolutely clueless against absolute minnows.
Nobody knows what do to. We don’t press as a team. We have no attacking patterns. We just pass the ball around until we lose it or hoof it away. Defensively, we look as shaky as ever.
There’s no midfield because EtH hasn’t prioritised it. Our expensive new keeper is a complete fraud. And Antony is diabolical.
This is not about tonight but the whole season and big parts of last. We’re poor. Simples as. And I’m struggling to think of a team we wouldn’t struggle against.
We all should recognise this stage of the project by now, it's dead. We've been playing shite football for a while and it's only got more boring.
Perfectly possible ETH can win the fans faith back but those demanding the fans give it now without question are delusional. He hasn't earned blind faith.
Perfectly possible ETH can win the fans faith back but those demanding the fans give it now without question are delusional. He hasn't earned blind faith.
If not Ten Hag, then who?
Sam Alardyce.
He got us top 4 and a trophy last season when barely anyone had us down to finish as high as 3rd at the start of the season after the mess he inherited. However the patterns of play we saw last season have gone now. The players have phoned it in.
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