XG was 0.56 against Sheffield United's 1.26
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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We've had 6 shots. An xg of around 0.5. Pathetic for the opposition and where we think we should be.
Hmmm.
Not sure what to make of him tbh.
Not sure what to make of him tbh.
3 games into the season our terrible performances were being pointed out. This is who we’ve been all season.
He's waiting for the big payout.
No use mate, some people just love wallowing in misery.
Last season Rashfords goals papered over a lot of the cracks. Without those moments of magic we are struggling.
We’ve been awful since the start of pre-season (and beyond that) but anyone who pointed that out was shouted down as being a drama queen and dismissed because ‘pre-season doesn’t matter’
kinell, are being managed by a kid from make a wish? We look second best to one of the worst sides in the league
Cmon, he’s just not massively suited to the PL, but we wants to succeed and is doing his best.
He doesn’t want to fail, and he’s still a decent coach.
No idea what he's trying to do to be honest. Only Luton and Everton play worse football than us in the league.
The only variable that hasn’t changed are the owners so until that happens I’m sceptical we’d see any difference in performance with a new manager.
Really hard to watch. Lindelof asked to do things he’s just not capable of doing… Lindelof is a squad level CB. Asking him to play a Zinchenko / Cancelo type role is way too much to ask.
This is against the side bottom of the league, and have been beaten in all but one game this season.
We have been absolutely dreadful against the worst team in the league. I don't think that's being overly critical.
Yet he's being asked to. Speaks volumes of the manager.
Ten Hag isn't the answer. I don't know who is, but it isn't him.
Injuries alone isn’t enough of an excuse for this. We are terrible against even shit teams. Last season we were poor but pragmatic and successful considering the circumstances. We’re supposed to be building on that success with better football but it feels like we’re going backwards. Both the football and the results are worse and show no sign of changing.
If we draw or lose, is he sacked? It’s a legitimate question. The Brentford win was basically luck, we looked like dogshit against palace and galatassaray…
No but City might put the final nail in the coffin.
He doesn't have injuries as an excuse. For most of his this season he's had 2 of his first choice front 3 and 2 of his first choice midfield.
No.
Is it a case of too complex and sophisticated tactics? And not the right kind of character in this clubs sporting setup?
At Ajax the entire club and all youth players are trained in a specific way and with a specific philosophy behind (regarding work ethics, team morale etc.), which probably fits ETH's approach way better. In addition, the competition in the Dutch league probably wasn't as tough relative to Ajax' strength as it is in the Prem.
At United, ETH has taken over a complete mess of a squad in a complete mess of a club. No or little strategic and well-thought way of handling everything regarding the sporting setup. On top of that, the competition in the league is huge and constantly getting tougher. Not the best enviroment for long term changes to a club with expectation to deliver results quickly.
The task simply seems to big for a guy like him alone. For him to succeed, would require a complete revamp of the sporting setup at the club with strong and authoritative figures on the level just above Ten Hag. Let him focus on training the first team, and let someone else handle a situation like Sancho. ETH seems to be the one taking the blame for everything at the moment. Who has his back within the club? If the Sancho saga didn't do it, something else would bring his authority over the players in trouble.
At Ajax the entire club and all youth players are trained in a specific way and with a specific philosophy behind (regarding work ethics, team morale etc.), which probably fits ETH's approach way better. In addition, the competition in the Dutch league probably wasn't as tough relative to Ajax' strength as it is in the Prem.
At United, ETH has taken over a complete mess of a squad in a complete mess of a club. No or little strategic and well-thought way of handling everything regarding the sporting setup. On top of that, the competition in the league is huge and constantly getting tougher. Not the best enviroment for long term changes to a club with expectation to deliver results quickly.
The task simply seems to big for a guy like him alone. For him to succeed, would require a complete revamp of the sporting setup at the club with strong and authoritative figures on the level just above Ten Hag. Let him focus on training the first team, and let someone else handle a situation like Sancho. ETH seems to be the one taking the blame for everything at the moment. Who has his back within the club? If the Sancho saga didn't do it, something else would bring his authority over the players in trouble.
It’s just a matter of time imo, he will get the sack.
I just want a manager that has us playing entertaining football and whatever we are seeing from Ten Hag is definitely not that and others have said it on here and it’s not an exaggeration but we genuinely play some of the worst football in the league.
I thought Ten Hag was going to be a lot more tactically astute but he seems like the opposite.
I thought Ten Hag was going to be a lot more tactically astute but he seems like the opposite.
You’re right. It would be smart to sack him after a lopsided City loss
Absolutely laughable post!
We had both Varane and Martinez injured towards the end of last season, which in Martinez’s case he’s never fully recovered from.
You don’t think that a fully fit Martinez and Varane wouldn’t improve the way we play in front of Onana?
You don’t think Shaw would off us more than Lindelof at LB?
You don’t think the solid base of Varane/Martinez behind Casemiro and Amrabat would give us more defensive solidity?
Agreed. Takeover may well buy him some time though.
Shocking subs as usual
I'm already imagining the tell-all exposés that will come out after he gets the chop. How the players couldn't understand his training methods, and he refused to change - merely responding everytime with "Sorry me no speaky speaky the englishings". Fernandes unsure why he was put into an iron lung for twelve hours a day. Sancho shoulder charged every morning, by a baseball cap wearing Ten Hag, into a high school locker whilst some Dutch cronies bellowed in hehs to support their gang leader Haggy Dogg 69.
Another thing. Why isn’t Garnacho starting? Seriously. On Rashford’s form right now, I’d rather Garnacho.
As long as the next manager doesn’t have a ridiculously bias love for shite players in shite form, I don’t care who it is. Bruno and Rashford constantly being shocking and not being dropped is beyond frustrating
Surely there are easier ways to get the sack? Just send a big ol’ mudpie to Joel airmail.
Tick tock.
City will take 6 off us next week and it’ll be curtains.
That’s usually what happens when you give average players such obscene contracts. His form has been so bad that dropping him to the bench would have been entirely justified but he hasn’t.
If our new long term plan is sign players the manager has worked with before then we need to at least get a manager that’s worked with decent players.
Should probably be starting Garnacho left and Rashford right given none of our right wingers do anything.
I felt it was time for Ole to go. I was excited about Ten Hag. But the fact is, we've been worse under TH - we got 3rd last year through our own luck and poor form of others. When did we last dominate a game - even one, let alone consistently. And this is the first time ever that I actually can't be bothered to watch.
We do. But with Bruno, Rashford, Hojlund, Garnacho, Eriksen, we have more than enough talent to beat bottom of the league Sheffield United.
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