I am sure you feel like you are doing God’s work. Also, saying “he got top 3 and had clean sheets” is not a logical argument. It is two positive points against a plethora of questions. It doesn’t answer any of them.
I think it’s you that lacks the ability to do any sort of critical analysis, and as such, there isn’t much point replying to you any further.
Ignoring the worrying statistical trends and repetitive nature of the teams issues isn’t logical. Shouting “but he finished 3rd” isn’t an argument. You probably need to work on that.
I never said that Ten Hag is free of fault, that is actually a lazy assumption you've come out with to try and win over a debate.
What I've said is that the overall evaluation counts more than fragments. Does he need to fix the away form? Yes. Did he have a successful season in spite of that? Yes.
So with the above in mind, has he earned some good will going into this season? feck yes.
What you're essentially saying is he should have the better away record on top of what he's done, which would have put him in a title race. And that is pretty fecking unreasonable for the manager in his first season.
Should he have made the team perform better vs Wolves and in the second half to spurs? Yes. Am I going cry have a baby fit about it and knee jerk some posts questioning if he's the right guy? No. This early that would be pretty dim.
Tactically there were clear issues again, it's just going to get glossed over because Bayern squandered a lot of opportunities and there were bigger taking points than the tactical battle. The overall performance was horrendous and the tactics is barely worth mentioning.
Bayern should have scored plenty more. It wasn't just the result but the performance. That was the worst defensive display I've seen since Ole's final days. The way they picked us apart with simple balls over the top to runners was Sunday league level. Luckily bayern were rubbish and we retained some dignity in what should have been a pasting.
As somebody else mentioned, he doesn't have an unlimited budget. To sign all of those players would have cost anther £200m+. Does he need a billion pound team to show some semblance of a coherent plan?
The writing was on the wall in pre season. We were rubbish there too and quite a few posters recognised we were in trouble.
Why would ETH come to United and bank on new owners so he can be a success? Do you think he's that deluded? Even so, we were limited under FFP after his huge outlay last summer. And it shouldn't take more and more money to be able to show what he can do tactically. Before this season started nobody was saying he needs more money, everybody was in agreement that we should see improvement and for us to push on. This idea of him not being backed is just an excuse. Absolutely nobody apart from this ETH fan group on here says that he wasn't backed. Because that would be stupid after the amount he's spent.
For the first 30ish mins, United were the better team on bayerns own turf. I don't think you can point to a tactical starting XI issue when we actually played well up to Onana howler.
Now, a fair question would be the soft underbelly to United, whereby we let our heads drop immediately after losing, before trying to play more attacking again. This is a question for Ten Hag for sure, however, I see his hamstrung squad as being a handicap. Eriksen was a key fault for goal 2 and the turnover in goal 3. He is a player which more than likely doesn't start if Mount, Amrabat or even Mainoo were fit.
As for the "Bayern had lots of opportunities" point, as true as that is, it was at a stage where they extended their lead to 3-1. At 2-1 I don't think it's played quite the same way, which is why I think the soft penalty was pivotal. Same goes for Onanas howler, as we had a couple big chances ourselves.
As for your "we need improvements to push on" point, give it more than 6 games. Hes operating without a LOT of key players and there is absolutely feck all context granted toward that by his critics which shows the narrative they are trying to mindlessly peddle.
Put it this way, if he doesn't win all the cup games and get at least 9/12 points going into the City fixture, you can come back with concerns again and il probably agree with you.
De jong is the only one on that list we know he wanted and he did not want to come and couldn't have made that any clearer.
Should we have kidnapped him at gunpoint?
The rest are media talk and we don't know who wanted them here if anyone.
As for who we did sign again you can't seriously think they were the club's choices and not Ten Hag.
He seems incapable of wanting any be player he hasn't worked with before or who he saw while he was in the dutch league.
The biggest mistake we made in signings was listening to him and bringing in the players he wanted
The rest isn't media talk. It's reported credibly who United wanted and who they missed out on.
Youre acting like it's a big mistake letting him sign certain players when Amrabat, Mount have barely played and Hojlund hasn't exactly made a bad start. It's not like our scouts have a better hit record than he does.
And regarding your other points, if he was banking on Greenwood walking back in then he an absolute fool and clearly not as intelligent as people think. The biggest joke of a point you and others are making is about Sancho being missing. Out of his control? He caused that whole situation himself. It's a laughable point to make and shows how desperate you are to make excuses that you even went there.
So you've made up a story with "if" and then got angry about it. Cool.
No you're right it's totally his fault that two of his right wingers are under sexual abuse allegations and the other has a chronic discipline issue
do carry on with that 'laughable' logic.
So a manager is excused unless he gets every single signing?
Kane
Mount
Kim
Onana
Pavard
Cucurella
Amrabat
I mean that's almost 280m worth of players (being generous and only saying Kane is 100m when he would have cost probably more than that).
By your logic no manager should ever really face fault since almost none of them get every player they want. And for the record I like Ten Hag and think he's been dealt a bit of a shit hand to start this season, but I've also raised very real concerns over his seemingly huge influence on transfer targets along with the feeling that he's caught in between two styles of play both squad wise and actual tactics wise
Read my actual point better because you've completely and utterly missed the point.
I said a manager has to spend hundreds of millions to be competitive with Bayern, and I said that he's adapted to the Dof as much as the club have adapted to him.
I never said he's free of fault or that he should get every wish.
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