The thing is, even if that's the case, we'll only end up replacing him with someone else and making zero changes to the actual structure of the club - the exact same thing we did every other time we sacked a manager. And that will just guarantee that in a year or two, we'll end up right back here yet again.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Now what?
Can he turn this around?
Do the players back him?
Do we have any players left at this point considering it's Evans and Maguire that's our CB pairing from hell.
No left back.
He needs to up the tempo or it's only going to get worse.
Can he turn this around?
Do the players back him?
Do we have any players left at this point considering it's Evans and Maguire that's our CB pairing from hell.
No left back.
He needs to up the tempo or it's only going to get worse.
People are entitled to blame him but I saw someone saying we give Ten Hag till the end of the year then get De Zerbi in. Like De Zerbi is going to wave a magic wand and immediately change everything.
The problem is we won’t be going back to square 1 if they sack him we’ll go back to -500 because almost every player he’s signed is connected to the manager in some way
They have to back him. If we finish 10th this season he will still be here
ETH is a good manager but his signing is questionable. Malaccia is decent as he is cheap, Martinez isn't a world beater for me, Antony is a just an average expensive winger, Casemiro brings the spirit, Onana hasn't been convincing for me, good feet but shot stopping isn't better than De gea, Mount isn't worth a mention so far, Hoijund too early to judge. I think we will struggle this season and likely top of top 4. We need another 300 million to address our issues. Need a RW, CB, RB and MF. I seems our issues never ends.
About time he started calling out these refs
He is imploding
Yes I agree, but it should not be in their control anyway. The club needs a vision of what they want their footballing identity to be and then recruit based off that. That list of managers all had wildly different playstyles and that hurt us, because all their players became deadwood for the next one faster than Usain Bolt on the 100m.
If we sack ETH, what's the alternative? We are so dysfunctional, nothing will change.
Are you genuinely blind or just pretending to be?
People thought that a guy who managed in fecking first league in Netherlands the best team with resources, best academy and players around, that he could replicate that in Premier League? Of course he would light it up there. He makes us play like underdogs instead of instilling any kind of prgressive and dominating football we were known for and he's been here long enough for us to see any kind of patterns. Yet we have seen very little in quite some time he had with the team and players he brought in..
It wold be very worrying to give him the invincible status he's getting from some of the fans. And I think he's a good manager but is he elite to get us to the top?
It wold be very worrying to give him the invincible status he's getting from some of the fans. And I think he's a good manager but is he elite to get us to the top?
He's not going to be a great manager if he can't identify good enough players for his own system.
Whether the people above him are "buffoons" or not, if you're going to ask for players then you'd best be able to get something out of them. I personally think a DoF is what's needed, but unless that DoF is just going to select all the players without Ten Hag's involvement (which, I suspect is unlikely) then the problem remains.
He's spent a fortune and we're no further forward. Spent all last summer chasing a single player who was never interested then spent a fortune on Antony who'll never be good enough.
There was a period of play where we did brilliantly playing out of the back into Bruno who tried to turn and run but got hawked down yet played it to Antony in acres of space 1v1…. And he couldn’t beat his man so instead turned around and passed it backwards. Sums us up really.
Its even worse than Poch. Its actually as bad as David Moyes. Thats the sobering truth.
Was it basic with Ole too?
No it's about time we had a manager that calls out the officials again. Disagree with him on the Hojlund one but he has a point on the other two. I also think Saka's tackle on Bruno in the first half could've been a red. That was a disgraceful challenge.
He is imploding
What nonsense are you spewing. The collapse shortly after almost going 2-1 up only Casemiro, Ericksen and Hojlund was on the pitch. 3 out of 10 outfield players are his.
Oh they played in the preseason my fault yeah let’s throw them in and hope for the best.
As opposed to not giving them a chance and sticking with players who can barely run.
How did that work out again ??
Not the man.
Pathetic performance all told. We’re not Sheffield United.
Pathetic performance all told. We’re not Sheffield United.
Not the best result but I thought he set us up quite well? Our injury list is getting way too long now though and something has to give.
What does he mean by that? I didn't see the interview.
What are we feeding these players? How tf is half the squad injured 4 games in.
Two youth players to bring on to close out a game away at Arsenal? I dont think those are the right subs to make...
Nobody has at this club for a decade. If he can’t on a consistent basis he’ll meet the same fate unfortunately.
Maybe not being so open in the final 10 minutes of the game? Defend the draw? You know, just some basic stuff
Not wishing it but think he’ll be gone this season. Don’t think he can be fully trusted for transfers. Still look like a rag tag Sunday league team when it comes to passing/possession. I think until we change the structure to get a DOF and system in place for transfer targets, we’ll be forever stuck battling it out for 4th.
Funniest thing is we’ve made our bed with his signings. Would have to laugh if postegoglu proves to be a better manager with time.
Yes. How much time did he get again?
We constantly look like a side who'll give away a soft goal. We concede far too much possession in the final third. Had Arsenal scored earlier we'd never have got back into the game.
The better side won. With the resources he's had we should be able to compete against Arsenal, not just rely on pieces of brilliance or a mistake to hit them on the break.
Only one complaint today. Why was Lindelof taken off ? Yellow isn't a reason for taking your best CB out !
Why are you talking about this match specially? Because I wasn’t? And the rage? What a funny little post.
He got injured.
Yep. Not surviving playing this negative underdog football with no obvious style of play. You simply cannot ignore the 0-1-10 record away to top 9 teams. Utterly atrocious.
I feel like he's still underestimating the importance of physicalilty in the league. Our team lost most of the duels, and we can't seem to win any second ball as well.
So now he’s being blamed for the actually loss, and something on a hypothetical plane. If Garnacho was inside you wouldn’t be saying anything. That game works both ways.
Not sure about the penalty but was right about the other two. He's not getting many breaks to go his way on the field or off it with injuries. United more than enough to earn at least a point today in one of the toughest games in the league.
Years, years of wasted time waiting for a process that never happened. Time does not equal success. The team isn’t even fit! If you understand so much about football, surely you can see what a basic error that is?
And he has done it twice now!
Yes like when Pereira had a good pre-seasonOh they played in the preseason my fault yeah let’s throw them in and hope for the best.
No he wont. He will be sacked.
At some point we will realise he isnt good enough and will need to restart. But restart the right way. Hiring another manager snd giving him full control in hope he will be Fergie 2.0 is BS. We can just as well keep ETH and fight for top 4 one year and finish 7th the next. If that is the goal, then keep him. Otherwise sack and do it properly for once. We have the resources, but are run by idiots across all levels.
And how did sticking with those experienced players turn in the end.
Don't want to hear these lame excuses anymore. ETH had them on the bench over McTominay and VDB, and he blocked the loan for Mejbri, so if he does all that then he needs to use them.
Agree with this part. He’s clearly a good coach as evidenced by his time at Ajax and some of the glimpses we’ve seen since he’s come here. But he didn’t have to do all the player targeting at Ajax, Overmars did that.
Should be Murtough and the scouting staff dealing with that side, being firmer and asserting themselves. If Murtough isn’t good enough, get somebody else in to perform that role.
Spurs play great football right now after like 6 weeks without the world stars we have in the squad.
That is luck too though. Ten Hag is on a hiding to nothing at United as some have stated. We won’t and can’t buy him the players to lift the PL or Champions league.
It’s not possible unless it’s a crazy bit of luck in Europe playing underdog.
The football is damn boring. I get building from the back but we are in that stage for ages now playing Evans at CB.
The main issue is are the Glazer’s going to keep the club? If they are his coffin is sealed within a year or two.
Sick of his away record. He knows Maguire and Evans are shite, why not bring in Bailly since we're paying his wages.
You can bet that madman would have dived in front of the ball, not run away pointing to the stands like that moron Maguire
You can bet that madman would have dived in front of the ball, not run away pointing to the stands like that moron Maguire
Agreed. I also think Saka was lucky not to be sent off.
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