Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."

Do you want United to sign Eric Dier?


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This would be a pointless signing, he's mediocre in every department, Herrera can do everything he can in the holding role and is more mobile and better positionally.
 
He is in crap form but in all honestly Dier is a defender first and a midfielder second. He is a very good young defender and is an average midfielder.
 
That's the worry, couldn't boss a game against 10 men. Looked very timid and had no idea what to do with the ball, was out of position so often and left massive holes infront of the defence.

I really don't want him.

He was crap no doubt but so was the whole team.
 
That's the worry, couldn't boss a game against 10 men. Looked very timid and had no idea what to do with the ball, was out of position so often and left massive holes infront of the defence.

I really don't want him.

That's mainly down to Southgate playing him out of position to be fair. He never plays in midfield for Spurs when we play 3 at the back - he plays in the defence.
 
That's mainly down to Southgate playing him out of position to be fair. He never plays in midfield for Spurs when we play 3 at the back - he plays in the defence.

Which is another way of saying he is not up to the job being asked of a central midfielder outside the defending part.
 
For the fee and his ability, I'd much rather Axel Tuanzebe was given a go. Looked very comfortable holding midfield at the end of the season. Lad is going to be a star, but needs to be allowed to develop.
 
Which is another way of saying he is not up to the job being asked of a central midfielder outside the defending part.

He can do a decent job in midfield within the right system which he has proved. What I'm saying is that he is not a player who should be played in midfield when playing 3 at the back - he should be in the centre of that defensive 3.
 
Going from Fabinho/Nainggolan to Dier would be like the time we pursued Fabregas and ended up with Fellaini.
 
He's a sub-par midfielder who would be an absolute waste of money. I hate his face too. Do not want.

 
Looked okay when slotting into a very well-balanced Spurs team but would be exposed as the painfully average player he is if he signed for us.
 
I'm glad people aren't basing everything off a game that took place 3 weeks after the season ended. It's also fully possible to look at Rashford performance and make huge assumptions based on it, but it would be slightly unfair wouldn't it?

Anyway, I'm glad if he stays at Spurs, I think he's one of Englands best defensive talents at the moment.
 
I do not want Eric Dier, I want a player with defensive ability as well as great technique on the ball. Fabinho fits that profile.
In fact, if we sign Eric Dier I would go as far as saying the Premier League will not be won by Man Utd next season.
 
I do not want Eric Dier, I want a player with defensive ability as well as great technique on the ball. Fabinho fits that profile.
In fact, if we sign Eric Dier I would go as far as saying the Premier League will not be won by Man Utd next season.

Holy shit that's bold considering we've finished between 4th and 7th these past 4 years.
 
For the fee and his ability, I'd much rather Axel Tuanzebe was given a go. Looked very comfortable holding midfield at the end of the season. Lad is going to be a star, but needs to be allowed to develop.

Same here. If not going for a Fabinho level of player who would walk into the side, why spend a fortune on someone who isnt that much of an upgrade.
 
Why, because his stats don't add up for your lazy opinion?

You probably said the same about Carrick when we tried to sign him.

Dier would be a better buy for United than anyone else we're linked with this summer. EXACTLY what this side needs. But its gonna be very tough to land him. There are lots of attacking players - we could go Griezmann, Lukaku, Moratta, blah, blah...loads of options to improve us in the final third. But in midfield? It;s very hard to find consistency and discipline anywhere in the world. The central midfield role has evolved so much in the past couple of years that it's hard to find the right individual. Dier is perfect for what we need.
Have you watched his last 5 games?

do NOT want
 
I can see the logic, personally. Not as alluring as signing Fabinho would be, no, but it's right here;

He is in crap form but in all honestly Dier is a defender first and a midfielder second. He is a very good young defender and is an average midfielder.

He can do a decent job in midfield within the right system which he has proved. What I'm saying is that he is not a player who should be played in midfield when playing 3 at the back - he should be in the centre of that defensive 3.

Screening the center backs when we don't have the ball, and dropping back as a third CB when we do have it. That'd mean we could free both full backs instead of one one staying back and tucking in al la Darmian. Pogba, Herrera, hopefully Shaw, would have a little more freedom. A specific role (false 6?!), decidedly unsexy, but good for team as a whole.

He's young and plays for the national team...

I can see it.
 
I struggle to believe the Eric Dier links for a number of reasons.

First, he is a Spurs player. Levy loves selling us players. Always drags it out until the last possible minute in order to get an unholy fee.

Second, he is a Spurs player who has lost his place to Wanyama. Some will say we are signing a Madrid squad player in Morata so why not a Spurs squad player? My answer to that would be Madrid's squad is the best in Europe's. A number of players on Madrid's bench would walk into many Premier League first XIs. Spurs' squad is not the best in Europe by a long stretch, Spurs squad crashed out of Europe twice last season.

Third, we have been linked to other, better players. Dier is not a bad player. He is not on the level of someone like Matic or Fabinho. Coincidentally, two players that Jose has managed before (like Morata) and who he knows can do what he demands. There is no personal link between Jose and Dier and, unlike in the case of Morata or Perisic, there have been no rumours of a firm bid.
 
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He's an average player and is Spurs 3rd best CM. No top 6 team would even consider the thought of him in their first team, very techincally limited player who he is average at everything he does.
 
He would be a decent signing but we don't need another decent signing for a CM. I would much rather Fellaini as he can offer something unique that we cannot get in Europe, there are plenty of players for more reasonable prices that can do the same job as Dier. The only plus points are he is English, can also play in defence and is used to the Premier league.

He's no better than Schneiderlin who struggled massively here. Good work ethic, good at harrying and playing in a deeper role however when asked to contribute to attack, his passing is too sloppy and not ambitious enough. We need someone who can pass the ball reasonably well while also being great defensively, i.e. Fabinho.
 
He's an average player and is Spurs 3rd best CM. No top 6 team would even consider the thought of him in their first team, very techincally limited player who he is average at everything he does.

Hes played every week almost for a team that has finished 3rd and 2nd the last two years. How can what your saying be true?
 
Hes played every week almost for a team that has finished 3rd and 2nd the last two years. How can what your saying be true?
I worded it poorly. I meant to say no top 6 team would buy him and play him in their first team right now as there are much better options and players out there.
 
I worded it poorly. I meant to say no top 6 team would buy him and play him in their first team as there are much better options and players out there.
Right okay..

But he has played consistently in a Spurs team that has challenged for the title on each of the last 2 seasons..

Are we not counting Spurs all of a sudden? Did Dier appear out of thin air or did they buy him whilst they were a top 6 team?
 
Wasn't Dier primarily a CB for Spurs last season? Did he get many games in midfield?
 
Not worthy of discussion, there is no suggestion we are interested, no suggestion Spurs want to sell, no chance he would be cheap enough even if we did want, and Spurs wanted to sell.
Can't understand the links. It's simply not going to happen.
 
That is super unfair. He was facing Pogba, Kante in peak form and Lemar with Oxlade-Chamberlain as a midfield partner. He had no chance really....
If he is supposed to be joining us as a midfielder then he will need to deal with situations like that more often. England needed him and ox to get on the ball and dictate play and they both did nothing but hide, it was an absolute shamble.

Yes ok he's better than what he showed yesterday but he's just not my personal choice at all, putting physique over technique never works, we've already got that in Fellaini why do we need another.
 
Right okay..

But he has played consistently in a Spurs team that has challenged for the title on each of the last 2 seasons..

Are we not counting Spurs all of a sudden ?
Spurs have consistently challenged because they have a great team and system. He performed decently but so have 10-15 other players in their squad. Very replaceable player IMO, not a vital cog like Kane, Alli, Eriksen etc..


Edit: Anyways my 2 cents is I don't see any top 6 team right now that would splash 40m+ on him, they have better players and there are better options in the market. Would be plain stupid.
 
Spurs have consistently challenged because they have a great team and system. He performed decently but so have 10-15 other players in their squad. Very replaceable player IMO, not a vital cog like Kane, Alli, Eriksen etc..

Nothing to do with being not quite as fashionable as Fabinho or the number getters like Kane, Alli and Eriksen then?

Got cha.
 
I worded it poorly. I meant to say no top 6 team would buy him and play him in their first team right now as there are much better options and players out there.

Spurs are a top 6 team, have played him in their first XI every week and will no doubt continue to do so. If Pochettino didn't think he was good enough, then why would he select him?
 
Really wouldnt mind Dier at the right price. I like him and think he's got another level to go up, but you know we'll get fecked if we negotiate with an English player with Spurs.
 
Spurs are a top 6 team, have played him in their first XI every week and will no doubt continue to do so. If Pochettino didn't think he was good enough, then why would he select him?
My point is there there is no top 6 team right now who would buy him. Price, talent and potential taken into account, it makes no sense for a top 6 team to buy him I believe.
 
I struggle to believe the Eric Dier links for a number of reasons.

First, he is a Spurs player. Levy loves selling us players. Always drags it out until the last possible minute in order to get an unholy fee.

Second, he is a Spurs player who has lost his place to Wanyama. Some will say we are signing a Madrid squad player in Morata so why not a Spurs squad player? My answer to that would be Madrid's squad is the best in Europe's. A number of players on Madrid's bench would walk into many Premier League first XIs. Spurs' squad is not the best in Europe by a long stretch, Spurs squad crashed out of Europe twice last season.

Third, we have been linked to other, better players. Dier is not a bad player. He is not on the level of someone like Matic or Fabinho. Coincidentally, two players that Jose has managed before (like Morata) and who he knows can do what he demands. There is no personal link between Jose and Dier and, unlike in the case of Morata or Perisic, there have been no rumours of a firm bid.

Not correct. He has been shifted to a back 3 because Pochettino now favours that system.