Forgot this. Then a big NO. Fabinho will cost same(may be less) money, same age and twice the player in every aspect than this mediocre player will ever be.
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Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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He isn't even that good, save the muppet juices for the actual top drawer guys ffs. It's a long summer ahead 
How's he getting away with a wum like that?
And a spurs fan of all teams talking about the OT atmosphere
United fans moan about it all the time yet its still better than anything else in this country. The Liverpool game a couple months ago alone shits all over any atmosphere in spurs' entire history in their shitty little stadium.Anyway Dier is a decent little player and grew up a red. If he keeps improving it could be worth turning his head.
Nice poem.
Lacks a few syllables but cheers mate.
No problem.He is more Hargreaves than Carrick. Like Hargreaves he is physical, versatile and grew up in a different country.
Feels like a Schneiderlin type signing. Looks good over there in a certain setup but not that good really. His England performances have been bad and wasn't he utter crap when we got beat by Iceland?
Sure I'd like to a see a player who can do the less glamourous side and free up Pogba but I'll trust Jose on it. I'd love Kroos though, he's got a great range of everything and can swap with Pogba and can offer top class passing. We've got too many donkeys who can't pass for shit right now.
Sure I'd like to a see a player who can do the less glamourous side and free up Pogba but I'll trust Jose on it. I'd love Kroos though, he's got a great range of everything and can swap with Pogba and can offer top class passing. We've got too many donkeys who can't pass for shit right now.
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To be fair he was probably England's best player in the tournament until that Iceland game.
I get it, and am not suggesting that United take that approach at all. I simply find it interesting that, if you wind back the clock, a large number of posters (perhaps even the majority) were very underwhelmed with Carrick's signing. Not every purchase needs to be of a "galactico" variety. Quite often, its the less sexy transfers that really provide the foundation of championship calibre teams. Yes, you need match winners, but you also need "work horses". For United, those "work horse" also need to be talented and of sufficient quality, of course.
Dier is a decent player on a good team (a squad that is 7 points ahead of us, having played one more game). He's not world class, and probably never will be. For the money it would take to prise him away from Tottenham, I have no doubt that we could bring in someone of higher quality. I hope we look elsewhere, but at the same time I wouldn't be heartbroken if Jose fancies Dier.
What if his head cannot be turned, doc? For all I can see, he's a bit of a cock.
Then kidnap his cat, tickle his toes or wave 100 grand a week right under his nose
Well, that sounds a fine plan, shall it not work, we'll re-think it again.
Meanwhile, let's look at the midfielders akin, for shall I be honest, on Dier I'm not keen.
Lol you are trying too hard mate. Spurs will never be as big or as good as Manchester United, we have fans in all corners of the World. If not for bad finishing we would be above your small team in the table. We can attract players like Mkhi, Pogba and Zlatan. 2 of these players were the best in their positions in Serie A and Bundesliga, they wouldn't have joined us if we were "just another English club". You think they play in a dead atmosphere? It's Old Trafford not Etihad Stadium or White Hart Lane.
Woe is me, return from a holiday to find that a rumour in the Scum about a distinctly average player has generated 10 pages on here?
I didn't see a single mention of Dier being the right player for us, even from the biggest transfer muppets, but now there's words like "great" and "perfect" signing being bandied about. Are people that desperate to back José that we have to sandbag against disappointing transfer rumours Incase they turn out to be true? Similar happened with José Fonte last Summer, nobody on here wanted him, then a story linked us, suddenly he was our ideal signing and somebody even said he should be our captain. Now he's at West Ham and hardly exactly pulling up trees so not a word about him again.
Dier does have some of José's prime attributes, he's tall 6'2" and a heavy strong build at 90kg. He's also aggressive, a dirty player and a bit of a d!ck head on the pitch by all accounts. Despite some promising performances for England I thought he looked poor in the CL this season for Spurs and appears to have permanently lost his Centre mid berth to the better all-round player in Wanyama.
You could do worse as a squad player who can cover injuries in several positions but that rumoured £40m could be better used by Spurs who like it or not are a serious competitor to us currently.
I didn't see a single mention of Dier being the right player for us, even from the biggest transfer muppets, but now there's words like "great" and "perfect" signing being bandied about. Are people that desperate to back José that we have to sandbag against disappointing transfer rumours Incase they turn out to be true? Similar happened with José Fonte last Summer, nobody on here wanted him, then a story linked us, suddenly he was our ideal signing and somebody even said he should be our captain
. Now he's at West Ham and hardly exactly pulling up trees so not a word about him again.Dier does have some of José's prime attributes, he's tall 6'2" and a heavy strong build at 90kg. He's also aggressive, a dirty player and a bit of a d!ck head on the pitch by all accounts. Despite some promising performances for England I thought he looked poor in the CL this season for Spurs and appears to have permanently lost his Centre mid berth to the better all-round player in Wanyama.
You could do worse as a squad player who can cover injuries in several positions but that rumoured £40m could be better used by Spurs who like it or not are a serious competitor to us currently.
And yet none of those players have outperformed their Spurs counterparts this season so luckily we aren't missing out on anything by not being able to attract those players.
What's up with Utd fans' insistence on bragging about what their players have done in other leagues? That's like me coming on here and bragging about all the goals Janssen scored for AZ. Do you see how ridiculous it is?
I don't think any Spurs fan is envious of any of Utd's transfer dealings of late.
Pogba is the best performing CM in the league statistically.
Zlatan and Mikhi haven't done badly either.
They have all out performed Spurs in the trophy front too and they've only been in the country a few months.
He may be the best statistically but in reality, he hasn't even been the best midfielder in your own team let alone in England.
Zlatan has been a sensation but Kane has still scored more. Who has Mkhitariyan outperformed with his grand total of 3 goals and 1 assist? Please stop right there because I'm literally bursting with envy.
I'm quite content with Spurs not being able to attract the "top, top top-est" players in world football so long as the players that we do sign actually perform at a high level for us. For example, Dier is not the flashiest player around and he probably doesn't lead the race for most Instagram likes, but he has been a very solid player for us and truly versatile in the positions he can play which is always an asset.
So you go on to say that statistics don't define how good a player is (pogba) but then use stats to define how good Mkhitryan has been? Okay pal
True. I know many United fans cry themselves to night thinking about spending 30m on Sissoko or 17m on Janssen.
Laughable post. Spurs fans are too arrogant for someone who regularly disgrace themselves in Europe and haven't won anything in the last decade or so.
Sit down buddy.
I never said stats define how good a player is, you are wrongly trying to imply that I did; but if you want to have this conversation, some stats simply hold more weight than others eg: goals and assists tally whereas other stats just don't accurately gauge how well a player has been playing eg: shots. Pogba is likely leading the shots tally this season, but when they all end up on the moon, who cares? The "successful take on" stat is the same way. Most players can dribble past an opponent but if it eventually results in lost possession....A for effort I suppose. Basically, if you don't think that goals and assists are better indicators of "playing well" then something is wrong. I still want to know, who are all these top top top-est united players outperforming their Spurs counterparts in the league this season that we can only dream of ever being able to attract?
I'll stick with Dier. Versatile, young enough to improve further and his shots mostly remain in the stratosphere.
Using that logic we can say Spurs players are average as they were average in CL and Europa.
Yeah use goals and assists stats for midfielders, that will help. Why don't you use the same stats to Dembele, Pogba has scored nearly as many goals as Dembele and assists in half a season that Dembele did in 4 and half season.
Oh dear. I think we better stick with my logic because yours is lacking severely. You must know that I'm talking about domestic leagues not club competitions..
Let me break it down. Some united fans rate their players based off what they've done for other teams in other leagues whilst wearing another team's shirt in another country that is not England.
Mkhi for Dortmund was great. Mkhi for United, meh, but supposedly spurs fans are bursting at the seams with envy because we can't attract him, despite having better performing players..
I prefer to judge my players on how they perform for us.
These players are rated for not performing in "other" leagues, they are rated as they played well in CL too. CL is the ultimate test whether you agree or not.
So Mkhitaryan for United is meh? Says everything now.
Didn't Mikhi smash in the winner v Spurs... how very meh
Miki is good, but he's no Alli, and certainly no Sissoko.Didn't Mikhi smash in the winner v Spurs... how very meh
Well, we will see about that next season. Just because you were in top 4 the past 2 seasons you are acting as if Spurs are bigger than United. If it weren't for bad finishing we would be 2nd in the table instead of Spurs.
Ah yes, the ole "if it hadn't have been for that one uncut blade of grass" we'd be top of the table excuse
Newsflash, United is not the only team that has hit the post or missed chances this season and you don't get imaginary points for almost scoring goals, almost not conceding goals and almost not losing matches. Also, haven't you scored like 7 offside goals? Also, shouldn't you have been reduced to 10 men in quite a few matches? If it hadn't have been for questionable officiating you'd be closer to Bournemouth than us. See how that works?
I don't think Spurs are bigger than United. Jesus. But who are these top top players that have been performing to a higher level than their Spurs counterparts and why should spurs fans be envious of players that United sign that don't perform at a high level whilst in the country of the domestic league in which the two teams play?
Didn't Mikhi smash in the winner v Spurs... how very meh
Talk about the ultimate burn.
The gift that keeps on giving!
They finished below us in the LvG's first season. So they haven't finished top 4 in the past two seasons and if you add that to the fact that they have won feck all in a long time and are absolutely disgraceful In Europe, I'm not sure how they are the most arrogant bunch here.
Talk about the ultimate burn.
The gift that keeps on giving!
Some Spurs fans are amazing. Pogba is not good because he has not scored or assisted goals and at the time they will tell you Dembele as the best midfielder at Spurs and League when he has scored and assisted 1 or 2 more goals in 4 and half years than Pogba did in half year.
Stop contradicting yourself mate. You want stats I will give you stats.
Mkhi has 41 goals and 49 assists for Dortmund, Delle Alli has 24 goals and 12 assists for Spurs. We have 44 trophies and Spurs have 17, that's not even half of 44
Zlatan has 50 goals and 19 assists last season, how much does Harry Kane have? Maybe you can find out as I have better things to do then argue with a deluded Spurs fan-boy.
And I thought Liverpool fans were the most deluded football fans. These people think that Spurs are some top club.
Ah yes, the ole "if it hadn't have been for that one uncut blade of grass" we'd be top of the table excuse
Newsflash, United is not the only team that has hit the post or missed chances this season and you don't get imaginary points for almost scoring goals, almost not conceding goals and almost not losing matches. Also, haven't you scored like 7 offside goals? Also, shouldn't you have been reduced to 10 men in quite a few matches? If it hadn't have been for questionable officiating you'd be closer to Bournemouth than us. See how that works?
I don't think Spurs are bigger than United. Jesus. But who are these top top players that have been performing to a higher level than their Spurs counterparts and why should spurs fans be envious of players that United sign that don't perform at a high level whilst in the country of the domestic league in which the two teams play?
What on earth are you on about? Spurs have signed more dross than they have quality. For your Alli there's a 30m Sissoko, a 17m Janssen, a 10m N'Koudou, a 12m N'Jie and an 11m Ben Davies.
That's 80 million quids worth of shite that makes Paul Pogba look like an absolute steal.
You've had a scattergun approach to transfers for years. You blew the Bale money on all sorts which you quickly sold back on. In amongst such a policy you'll get the odd gem but don't make it sound like you're masters of transfer dealings as you're really not.
Ironically if Tottenham actually spent some of the above money on one mega star you might actually win a trophy and not become a European embarrassment. Just a thought.
They should be queuing up with your London attractions and superb home fans..
Oh come on now didn't you get the memo that Spurs are now growing force whose charge towards league domination would continue unabated where as United are spent force, a fallen giant who would continue to struggle despite being one of biggest club in the world allied with the financial might which is matched by select few only.
Atleast that's how some of the Tottenham's posters come across on here . No body can argue that Spur's haven't improved under Pochetinno but the extent of their growth is bit overstated when you consider they regularly get embarrassed in Europe and for all the bravado from some of the Spur's fans here top 4 for them is far from guaranteed.
I think he's far too limited to play the role Carrick does but a combination of him and Herrera would be one of the more physically nasty midfields anyone would come across. Fits the profile of a Mourinho team.
What are these comparisons to Carrick? He's not like Carrick at all.
United won't pay 40 million for him (and rightly so) and I don't think we'll want to sell a player who covers three positions well for us and is actually almost ever present for us throughout the campaign so far.
This is a complete non story.
United won't pay 40 million for him (and rightly so) and I don't think we'll want to sell a player who covers three positions well for us and is actually almost ever present for us throughout the campaign so far.
This is a complete non story.