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2018-19 Performances

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5.1 Season Average Rating
Appearances
18
Clean sheets
4
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
Red cards
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Have not seen the challenge, but we must not get so dramatic and responsive to a red card. They do happen from time to time (Remember Nemanja Vidic...? )

Bailly is a good player, who could be a super player... he needs support from manager, and a run of games.

He'll be the player who arrived and made many think that we have a potential star here. He's young too.

Mourinho messed him up, which is unforgivable really, but we move on.
 
Jeffthered said:
Have not seen the challenge, but we must not get so dramatic and responsive to a red card. They do happen from time to time (Remember Nemanja Vidic...? )

Bailly is a good player, who could be a super player... he needs support from manager, and a run of games.

He'll be the player who arrived and made many think that we have a potential star here. He's young too.

Mourinho messed him up, which is unforgivable really, but we move on.
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It's not from time to time - Vidic was incredibly consistent (except against Liverpool...), Bailly nearly took the strikers head off in the penalty area earlier in the match, which was an awful tackle, and unnecessary. That's his third red card for the club already, he has no composure at all.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
It's not from time to time - Vidic was incredibly consistent (except against Liverpool...), Bailly nearly took the strikers head off in the penalty area earlier in the match, which was an awful tackle, and unnecessary. That's his third red card for the club already, he has no composure at all.
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Vidic was as old as Bailly is now when he was signed from Spartak and he certainly wasn’t incredibly consistent at that age.
 
Ekeke said:
Because on top of diving in with rash challenges like Bailly, he also gives the ball away with his reckless passing in his own half.
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Don’t forget his lack of pace and anticipation. He doesn’t belong in a club in the top half of the table.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Vidic had a slightly rough first 6 months at the club. After that he was immense for years.
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Did it only take him six months to settle in? I was a kid at the time so I don’t trust my judgement from then, but I thought he was inconsistent for at least a year or two?

Anyway, Bailly is still young, at least for a center back. He’s obviously talented and I think him and Lindelöf are the two center backs in the club with the highest potential by far so I hope Ole plans on playing them consistently.
 
Macern said:
Did it only take him six months to settle in? I was a kid at the time so I don’t trust my judgement from then, but I thought he was inconsistent for at least a year or two?

Anyway, Bailly is still young, at least for a center back. He’s obviously talented and I think him and Lindelöf are the two center backs in the club with the highest potential by far so I hope Ole plans on playing them consistently.
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Nah, it was about the first 6 months that he took to settle in.

His first full season was 06/07 and he was brilliant. Scored some crucial goals too.

I think Bailly and Lindelof don't work as a partnership, neither of them can head the ball so any high ball or cross into our area and it's panic stations.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
You just compared him to one of our best ever CBs. There is nothing to suggest that he will be anything like Vidic.
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:confused: You were the one making the comparison mate. I just responded to that. Obviously they are two very different center backs and as you say nothing to suggest that Bailly will ever reach that level, but the point still stands that you can’t judge a center back properly when he’s just 24 years old.
 
Blimey.

I (nor anyone else for that matter..) was comparing him to Vidic. I said we shouldn't just lose it because he received a red card. It happens. What do you want, a team withoit players who occasionally pick up red cards?

These things happen.

Bailly is potentially a top defender, as he showed when he first arrived/played at the club.

He needs a supporting environment to get him back to that level. His last twelve months were a joke under Mourinho.

He currently seems a little frustrated.. but he wasn't like that when he arrived. So how about Ole and Phelan working with him to get the best out of him?

That's what I want to see..a good management team would surely recognise this.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Nah, it was about the first 6 months that he took to settle in.

His first full season was 06/07 and he was brilliant. Scored some crucial goals too.

I think Bailly and Lindelof don't work as a partnership, neither of them can head the ball so any high ball or cross into our area and it's panic stations.
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I think they compliment each other quite well in other aspects though. One is good on the ball, one is not. One is aggressive and reckless while the other is more careful and calculated. They both have pace, at least Bailly.

I’d love for us to buy a tank of a center back though, someone to lead the defense. As you say they’re poor in the air and it’s a massive weakness. Lindelöf can grow into a leader I think, but that won’t happen soon if at all. Meanwhile someone like Maguire would sort out our weaknesses in terms of leadership and aerial strength. He’d also compliment Bailly perfectly as they’re as different as center backs can get imo, and they’re both good enough.

Koulibaly is a top class center back, but from what I’ve seem he’s a bit of a risky defender similar to Bailly. Does he speak english? I don’t really see him coming straight in to lead the defense which is why I’d prefer Maguire.
 
Patrick08 said:
He is 22 , he doesn't need to be sold, he needs to be developed. It's rojo and jones types that needs to be sold who can't keep fit for a longer duration and play without their mistakes.
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He’s nearly 25, and his fitness record is barely any better than those two.
 
Jeffthered said:
Blimey.

I (nor anyone else for that matter..) was comparing him to Vidic. I said we shouldn't just lose it because he received a red card. It happens. What do you want, a team withoit players who occasionally pick up red cards?

These things happen.

Bailly is potentially a top defender, as he showed when he first arrived/played at the club.

He needs a supporting environment to get him back to that level. His last twelve months were a joke under Mourinho.

He currently seems a little frustrated.. but he wasn't like that when he arrived. So how about Ole and Phelan working with him to get the best out of him?

That's what I want to see..a good management team would surely recognise this.
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I can’t recall the last time he got a consistent run of games. How can people expect him to deliver consistently when he’s constantly in and out? I think him and Lindelöf should play as many games as possible together until the summer unless we buy a center back this january which I think is unlikely.

Jones is made of glass and he was honestly a better player when we bought him 7,5 years ago. Smalling has had all the chances in the world, but fails to deliver anywhere near the level that is required for a title challenging team. I hope Solskjær recognises this.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
The high foot wasn't a red. Neither was the tackle for his sending off. Thought he was good for most of the game.
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Even though the B'mouth player jumped into him, we've seen plenty of those been awarded with both a pen/FK and red card. The one that got him sent off was 100% a red card and a stupid, stupid challenge to make, especially considering the position we were in and the area on the pitch. I really had high hopes for him when he first got here and i still hope he might come good, but it seems every time he get back from injury he has a brainfart like that and either ends up in the doghouse or at the physio.
 
I've believe passionately that he's our best CB by some distance. He's got it all, strength and aggression, pace, change of pace. Just needs to reign in that occasional recklessness. Love seeing him in our starting XI.
 
He has it all, except for all the things he doesn't have.
 
Kostov said:
I agree with you about that, but thanks to his own stupidness no one will pay attention about Lindelof mistakes. Let’s hope Ole sees through it, but Bailly doesn’t help himself really.
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Lets hope he see’s through what? There’s one rash and reckless liability between the pair and it’s clear that it is Bailly.
 
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Jeffthered said:
Have not seen the challenge, but we must not get so dramatic and responsive to a red card. They do happen from time to time (Remember Nemanja Vidic...? )

Bailly is a good player, who could be a super player... he needs support from manager, and a run of games.

He'll be the player who arrived and made many think that we have a potential star here. He's young too.

Mourinho messed him up, which is unforgivable really, but we move on.
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I can take red cards from tough challenges, or even if the player looses his temper. But this was so unnecessary. 4-1, 10 min left and it was not even a chance for them, and he goes in like that, leaving the club with only two available CB for the next three matches. That is not ok.
 
A-man said:
I can take red cards from tough challenges, or even if the player looses his temper. But this was so unnecessary. 4-1, 10 min left and it was not even a chance for them, and he goes in like that, leaving the club with only two available CB for the next three matches. That is not ok.
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Of course. But, things happen, on a pitch, sometimes that are 'not ok'

So what happens now?

You work with him that's what you do...
 
Jeffthered said:
Of course. But, things happen, on a pitch, sometimes that are 'not ok'

So what happens now?

You work with him that's what you do...
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It’s difficult. His aggressiveness is one of his best attributes, and his judgement is maybe his worst attribute. That combination is not good and as you say, something to work with.
 
Why on earth did he lunge in like that especially given our lead at the time.

He's way too rash for me. Needs to clean it up. This recklessness is a feature of his game that he needs to weed out.
 
Discipline is very important. Compare Carrick's discipline to someone like Fellaini's.

Bailly needs to control himself better and be more disciplined.
 
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haram said:
Lets hope he see’s through what? There’s one rash and reckless liability between the pair and it’s clear that it is Bailly.
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Because Bailly was rash and brainless for a second we should forget about Lindelof’s brain fart that could have cost us a goal?
 
His lack of (football!) intelligence is a problem, but I don’t think that it’s fair to give up on him. He’s still our most talented center back and his moment of madness is kinda understandable, even though it’s not an excuse. His first start for a new manager, he wants to impress him etc.

I think that Lindelöf probably made as many if not more mistakes during his time here, although his progression is undeniably positive, unlike Bailly with his ups and downs. Still, we need to get rid of Jones and Rojo first and Bailly can stay as an understudy — don’t forget that he didn’t even have a real role model during his time here, as both Smalling and Jones still behave like young and inexperienced players on the pitch most of the time.
 
Eyepopper said:
He's 24. Do you think now is the time in his career development for someone to tell him not to flying kick people in the shoulder or not to go flying in two footed, studs up?

He's a headless chicken.
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Absolutely. We used to say that a CB’s prime was 25/26 y.o. I’m actually more worried about his inability to time his jump for headers, that’s usually a skill defenders have from a young age.
 
I certainly don't see all this talent he's meant to have. Talented CBs make defending look easy, he looks like he's arse is on fire all the time.
 
haram said:
Bailly has been rash and brainless for 2 years.
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He's played less top flight football than Rashford; and Lindelof, who people often say needs time, has played nearly twice the amount of games in his career than Bailly has played.

He has a lot of ability but where he really lacks is decision making and positioning; and you'd have to hope that they could improve given time and experience.
 
I could almost forgive him for a challenge like that if we were under pressure in a tight match, but 4-1 up at OT with 10 mins left and 4 other teammates around him was just stupidity.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
I certainly don't see all this talent he's meant to have. Talented CBs make defending look easy, he looks like he's arse is on fire all the time.
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Must admit he has dissappointed me the most. First few months we were all thinking this lad is going to be a top top CB. However for whatever reason, he just hasnt kicked on. It's not just about talent, his decision making leaves a lot to be desired. Lindelof has overtaken him in the pecking order for me which would have sounded strange 1 year ago.
 
An Irish Red said:
He's played less top flight football than Rashford; and Lindelof, who people often say needs time, has played nearly twice the amount of games in his career than Bailly has played.

He has a lot of ability but where he really lacks is decision making and positioning; and you'd have to hope that they could improve given time and experience.
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So he lacks decision making, positioning, not good in the air, not a good passer of the ball. So he is quick and strong. He resembles a joke of a footballer at this level with some of the reckless stuff he does.
 
Ridiculous tackle yesterday and has shown some daft moments up to now, but we’d be silly to write him off just yet.

He’s another one, like so many of our players, who need a run of games and an opportunity to kick on.
 
haram said:
Bailly has been rash and brainless for 2 years.
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Not really. He was our best defender in his first year. Injuries have slowed his progression but no-one accused him of rashness or being brainless .
 
haram said:
So he lacks decision making, positioning, not good in the air, not a good passer of the ball. So he is quick and strong. He resembles a joke of a footballer at this level with some of the reckless stuff he does.
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He's a very good 'one on one' defender and a great athlete; who I would argue is pretty good on the ball as well (although you disagree). I think there's a player there.
 
In theory, the things he lacks could be improved and we should show patience. Well, I doubt he’ll ever become dominant in the air, but he might develop a bit more common sense.

I’m not sure though. Maybe he came to European football too late. He’s just senseless. And too bad in the air, goes around fly-kicking what he should be heading, which is always going to end badly.
 
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