Poch also only got 70 points in that 2015/16 season. Their performance the following season was far more impressive. Because of the freak nature of it being Leicester, we all kind of forget how shit everyone else was that season. Arsenal finished second with 71 points: the following year they got 4 more points and finished 5th. 71 points gets you 5th in 2018 (Chelsea got 70); either 4th (Tottenham got 71) or 5th (Arsenal, again, 5th); and last year 3rd (we got 66) but 28 points off first, and 10 points off second.
EPL Title Race 20/21
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Spurs & Leicester combined XI in 15/16
Lloris
Walker Aldeweireld Morgan/Vertonghen Rose
Mahrez Dembele Kante Eriksen
Vardy Kane
Only 3 or 4 Leicester players would make it in the combined XI. Spurs to me has better players.
Spurs & Chelsea combined XI in 16/17
Courtois
Walker Cahill/Luiz Vertonghen/Toby Rose
Kante Dembele
Son/Eriksen Alli Hazard
Kane
Only 4 Chelsea players would make it in the combined XI. Spurs to me has better players. (Fabregas wasn't used in Conte's regular XI team)
Those Spurs team with United current team combined XI
DDG/Lloris
Walker Aldeweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dembele Fred
Eriksen Bruno Rashford/Son
Kane
''Minimum'' 7 of that Spurs players would make it in the combined XI.
Those Spurs team with Liverpool current team combined XI
Allison
TAA VVD Vertonghen Robertson
Thiago Fabinho Alli/Eriksen
Salah Kane Mane
Only 3 Spurs players would make it in the combined XI. Replace VVD with Toby, it's still only 4 Spurs players.
Poch had better players than what Leicester & Chelsea had at that time and he still failed to win the league. Liverpool is having much better players than what Spurs had at that time which tells you enough that Liverpool was miles better than Leicester & Chelsea were. While Spurs at that time had much better players than us right now.
There is no evidence to say that Poch would win the league this season if he replaces Ole when clearly he couldn't do it when he had better players with Spurs than our team now against two teams that were miles worse than Liverpool.
Too soon for such a thread. Table hasn't even taken shape yet. After Matchday 19 on January 16th will give a better idea to which teams are really in a title race.
We are in it because everyone else is struggling like us. It's LVG's second season all over again. All top teams are struggling and this has given us a chance to be this close as well.
The only games that matter are the ones this season so I don't get the 25 games criteria and counting games from last season in it as well.
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Yeah I honestly don't get the notion of people thinking this Leicester season was Poch's best one at Spurs. It's not. It's the next season actually. They got 86 points which would have won the league in plenty other seasons. They were pretty much the only team close to Chelsea this season.
You're absolutely right, and that is something that we can both agree on.
There are no certainties with anything.
Liverpool, mates.
The more interesting question is who misses the cut for fourth place?
The more interesting question is who misses the cut for fourth place?
So Poch is just not the right man to replace Ole right now for this season what we call ''best chance'' to win the league since Fergie.
Lets goooo for it
Sure, but again, we solved our fitness issues and it shows in our ability to score even late in the game. We are in a run and we are just saying that this team is learning to win a bit more consistently that what some think, at least in the league. Let's see where we stand in Jan, and in May. But it should be much better than what most here think.
Agree
wholeheartedly with it. And we will have our chances to show ourselves in that table.
Liverpool will win it. City are shit. Spurs and Chelsea will slow down. We will face a struggle to make top 4 as usual.
Whoever team has the least amount of injuries will probably win the title. Wouldn't surprise me at this point if Southampton do it.
I think United will have a good go at it this season, not necessarily due to our own competence.
I agree with this. Liverpool, despite their numerous injuries are still top level on points. Once they start to get their players back they will run away with it
Bump
You seem personally offended by an opinion.
Spurs now 3 points clear of Chelsea with a game in hand and still top of the table. Big game tomorrow!
It'll be interesting to see if Lampard gets any media stick. 0 pts from Everton & Wolves is not great
They won't get Van Dijk back this year and there's a chance Gomez doesn't either. They're still the best team, but they won't really get players back this season.
Don't think so. The commentator at the end of the game said that a loss at Wolves won't do much to their title prospects, and it's just a blip after a 17 game unbeaten run. As biased as it can get that.
We win on Thursday night and we are level on points with Chelsea with a game in hand, but United need to sack their manager!
Edit: sorry, one point ahead!
We go a point clear of Chelsea if we win against Sheffield, 4 points clear if we win against Leeds.
Realised that. Edited the post already.
Not offended. Just intrigued how Lampard, despite having spent an absolutely eyewatering amount of money in the summer, is not held to account despite the fact that Chelsea could be sat as low and 9th place by the weekend. I believe he is immune to criticism because he's got a British passport.
Finally people are waking up to this ridiculous media bias!
Chelsea's title challenge steams ahead!
He doesn't, but they'll give him it until the end of the season
Because up until now he was within 3 points of top spot. Hard to criticise someone whose team is winning games and scoring goals. Two back to back defeats will raise questions.
But let's not pretend you didnt bump my post because you were triggered by not seeing United in my top 4
I'm actually watching non United games for the first time in a while. It's really surprising how the narrative for other big teams is so different from United.
When United concede, un coached side, poor performance, blah blah. City had 1 or 2 shots on goal that entire half, with all the ball, but there wasn't one comment on them being non penetrative.
The whole narrative around the club is a bit disjointed from reality. We are no means a finished article or a peak United side. But, this team has clearly been doing better than it is made out to be.
I think we need a few more 'neutral' journos to cover United. At this point, either they love Liverpool and so they hate on United, or they are ex players and they hate on how far the standards have fallen from their time.
The latter could be nostalgia or reality or a bit of both.
Not true, Liverpool have been questioned (rightfully so) for the poor away record in the whole of 2020. Klopp being unashamedly confronted about tiredness and TV fixtures by Kelly for example. City will be under fire too if they don't win this game. But both teams have some leeway because of their contributions in the past few seasons. Utd haven't earned that generosity yet.
Okay, what about Chelsea?
On Liverpool - they are nailed on title winners according to the media. The Kelly interview was because Klopp took a personal jibe at the interviewer and for a change, the journo took a stand and wanted to make a point that it's TV money which has supported the game and the sport during CoVID times. That's not criticism of thr club.
City get very little heat because Pep is their manager. People have a lot of respect for him, but that does not mean that their season so far has also been bang average.
Feck off everything else and throw the kitchen sink at the league. The team that stays the fittest and wants it most is going to win it this year.
we have to be ruthless. Ole has to be ruthless! No messing around. It’s there for the taking.
we have to be ruthless. Ole has to be ruthless! No messing around. It’s there for the taking.
At this point its silly to say we're not in it seeing as City are spoken about as being one of Liverpool's biggest challengers. They're well off it right now, and we're as good as them. Bizarre season as expected.
Draw tomorrow and we win Thursday and I'll be channeling my inner Heavy D 
This is a classic SAF PL win, as someone said, draw with the best, beat the rest.
Top 6 results don't matter unless there are teams winning everything... otherwise drawing to fulham away is the same than drawing to city away
Top 6 results don't matter unless there are teams winning everything... otherwise drawing to fulham away is the same than drawing to city away
It's nice not to be out of the title race by December for once.
There is still so long to go in the season. Liverpool, sadly, will probably win it easy.
The first team to win 6/7 in row will win the league. United are already on a good run to match that.
probably helps that the season kicked off a month late but I’ll take it
Hope not, he died recently.Draw tomorrow and we win Thursday and I'll be channeling my inner Heavy D
Christ did he? What the hell happened?