English cricket thread

I actually argued I'd have given the Starc one. But slightly changed my mind on it now - but the Stokes one is much harder to give out.

Not sure anyone would. However, there's only drama in the review if you're really looking for it.
 
SmallCaine said:
Much like the bairstow run out but englishmen weren't content with umpires making decisions then, there somehow Cummins was expected to call bairstow back but God forbid you question the shiniest knight of spirt of cricket asking a review when he himself knows he has dropped the catch, suddenly it's upto the umpires to adjudge that sort of stuff.
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The Bairstow one had nothing to do with the umpires. Stokes said himself it was out by the law.
 
I'm half a mile away and it's been dry for a little while, so we may yet get a result. Would be crap for it to be rained off. Whichever side wins, they deserve their moment after such a thrilling series and not to have question marks over who would have won this one.
 
Stokes review was because it happened quite quickly and he wasn’t sure if he might be deemed to have control. He had to make a decision in 10 seconds . It is not like once he saw the replays & third umpire decision he claimed that it was still a catch. Strange to discuss spirit of cricket there
 
Utd heap said:
To see if the umpires deemed he had taken the catch? It's their call.

They correctly said he didn't, which as you can see by his reaction - he thought was the case.
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I think he knew he didn't hold it, and it was a hopeful (but wasteful) review. But the point the other poster was making it's undoubtedly against the spirit of the game to claim for it knowing you didn't hold it etc. The comparison of a player claiming a grounded catch is a valid one.

In any case, it's a fairly minor and trivial thing, but it's raining and I'm bored of waiting.
 
It's great to see it's day 25 of the tour and we're all getting along so well
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Stokes review was because it happened quite quickly and he wasn’t sure if he might be deemed to have control. He had to make a decision in 10 seconds . It is not like once he saw the replays & third umpire decision he claimed that it was still a catch. Strange to discuss spirit of cricket there
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You aren't digging deep enough to find a problem with it mate. Cmon, get angrier.n
 
Care_de_Bobo said:
Some teams and individuals definitely have more luck than others. The idea that it all equals out in the end is frankly ridiculous, sport is often unfair just like life.

This was both poor from Stokes and lucky for Australia. Them being a better team overall doesn't change the fact that they've been very fortunate in this series. There was the Smith catch on Root, England being without Wood, Moeen, Archer, Leach and Pope for much or all of the series (despite all the focus on Australia's one injury), the Bairstow runout, the Smith runout and now this.

To use a football analogy Australia are like the Real Madrid of Test cricket in terms of success and having truly great players mixed with the absolutely infuriating out of the ordinary luck of Klopp's Liverpool.
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But i never said that all luck equals out? I just stated that every team is somewhat lucky? And i actually agree with the bolded bit. The only comment i made was stating that the original post could have been worded a little better as it made the Aussies sound more lucky than anything else - and not just this series. But alas, not really worth much discussion because as lucky as they've been, SA has been "unlucky" :(

What's that one saying: the harder you work, the luckier you seem to become...
AshRK said:
Well I can truly say SA have been unlucky. Definitely should have won atleast one WC
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Yeah, bottled a couple and terribly unlucky on a couple of occasions as well...now we're in a bit of a transition phase as well...oh well!
 
The Corinthian said:
I think England are well set for when Broad and Anderson are gone.

Archer, Wood, Woakes, and Tongue are all good test players. There's some injury concerns, and Wood and Woakes are getting to the tail end of their careers, but on the whole that's a good bowling unit.

There's also Ollie Robinson (although I don't rate him) and Saqib Mahmood who could feature in some capacity too.
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Archer isn't ready for tests, let alone tests in India. Woakes will be about as threatening as day old stale bread in India, wood with his pace will always find some use but unlike here where he can be bowled in short spells and for fewer overs, same won't work in India where if one of the spinners gets tonked, wood's workrate will need to go way up and you don't know how he will do then. Everyone else is very untested in Indian conditions.

Frankly unless England bat out of their skins, india will thrash them, aussies are the only side that's competitive in India and that is solely down the fact that india cant manhandle their bowling attack. Even the last time, murphy was bowling at a fantastic run rate, england always have a couple of bowlers who get smacked out of the attack. Only time England have won in India in the last decade was when they had a brilliant bowling attack and the current one looks far from brilliant especial if Anderson continues to be bad.
 
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Looks like we are set for some Cricket in less than an hour with any luck.
 
Dan_F said:
The Bairstow one had nothing to do with the umpires. Stokes said himself it was out by the law.
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And then told everyone how he would have withdrawn the appeal and wouldn't want to win that way. Can't ask the other side to withdraw appeals and then ask umpires to review catches he himself dropped.
 
Wow everyone but the England fans in here are wankers

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SmallCaine said:
And then told everyone how he would have withdrawn the appeal and wouldn't want to win that way. Can't ask the other side to withdraw appeals and then ask umpires to review catches he himself dropped.
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This was on the BBC.

“Where the decision on the Stokes catch is wrong is that England shouldn't have lost a review. They weren't reviewing whether the catch was clean, they were reviewing whether or not Steve Smith hit it. Then it is for the umpires to decide if it was taken cleanly.”

That’s why Stokes was reviewing. Not because the catch was given not out. You don’t review a catch.
 
Well now they've had tea the first inspection will be at 4pm, let's hope play can start at 4:30.
 
the_cliff said:
Can't see the Aussies scoring 146 in 1 inning, would be a draw or a England victory. Draw is still the most likely scenario imo.
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I assume you mean session because they already scored 238 in this inning!
 
I still think Australia can win this test but there may come a point where a series win is prioritised.
 
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I think these two will see how long they can stay in for and play the way they have been doing. If they're around 75-80 in the last hour there might be some fireworks. If they lose wickets then they'll do the sensible thing and see the game out.
 
Utd heap said:
If they lose Head and Marsh they'll bat the draw. With those two in they could reach it easily enough.
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Yeah it's heavily reliant on those two getting the runs quickly enough to give the Aussie lower order a shot if needed. But the Aussies won't risk a defeat here
 
I've got no idea why they show the same gibberish over and over again during rain breaks. You've got so many ex-pros in the commentary box who are getting paid to be there, give them the mic and let them talk all things cricket. Surely more interesting than putting something from the archive on for a billionth time.
 
Ben Stokes is warming up his bowling arm apparently.

Had a feeling he would want to have a bowl after what happened before the break
 
I swear whenever I watch Ali bowl, the batters are just on constant rotation. And then out of nowhere, one manages to do something.

He's capable of bowling blinders, but he's not really one to build up pressure/force batters into unnecessary shots.
 
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