English cricket thread

Yeah it was an oddly worded post, moreso when you consider Australia's dominance in the sport over the past 3 decades or so. Especially cricket, everyone's received the rub of the green, or the rain or something favourable!

Now one thing i can say is that we (South Africa!) have been tremendously unlucky :lol:

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Well I can truly say SA have been unlucky. Definitely should have won atleast one WC
 
Now that's the funniest thing I ever heard, you know nothing about me or what I know about cricket, which BTW is considerable since I played the game for more than 30 years

It’s utterly bizzare you say that considering you were the one who commented on me without knowing anything about me in the first place. So mind your own business maybe
 
Australia deserve to win the series. England have been very sloppy and not really killed Australia when they have been on top
 
New zealand had unreal bad luck in the last WC final.

Yup . Even apart from the stokes boundary, I think Boult who is genuinely one of the best fielders as far as fast bowlers are concerned stepping on the boundary was a bit freakish
 
It’s utterly bizzare you say that considering you were the one who commented on me without knowing anything about me in the first place. So mind your own business maybe
Well you're the one claiming Australia are an insanely lucky cricket team, I'm not Australian but making such a claim is nonsense IMO
 
God I won’t miss reading this dross after today.

If Stokes didn't question Cummins' adherence to the spirit of cricket re the Bairstow stumping there'd be no target on his back about the spirit of cricket.
 
Well you're the one claiming Australia are an insanely lucky cricket team, I'm not Australian but making such a claim is nonsense IMO

Every word said in this thread should be taken as it is. Have you ever seen the United match day thread
 
Yup . Even apart from the stokes boundary, I think Boult who is genuinely one of the best fielders as far as fast bowlers are concerned stepping on the boundary was a bit freakish

They were unlucky but nobody would have had any sympathy for England if they had lost the final on a boundary countback.
 
I bet we don't see the 'neutrals' again for months until England lose a game at the World Cup
 
They have lost 4/5 tosses. Their biggest luck by far was the rain in the last test.
The toss isn't always that important depending on the pitch and the weather. It will be far more important in India. The win stats overall for teams winning the toss in tests is less than 5% higher than for losing. The wickets of Smith and Root are surely worth more than that in terms chances of winning any given match.
 
England's selection has been awful. How many wickets has Anderson managed the entire series?
 
Rain should be gone by 3:30 according to the Met
It's absolutely hammering it down in South London, I'm not sure that's realistic.

Even if it did stop the players have to have tea and biscuits, they have to inspect the pitch then re inspect in an hour. This is a draw, don't get your hopes up.
 
It's absolutely hammering it down in South London, I'm not sure that's realistic.

Even if it did stop the players have to have tea and biscuits, they have to inspect the pitch then re inspect in an hour. This is a draw, don't get your hopes up.

:lol:
 
If Stokes didn't question Cummins' adherence to the spirit of cricket re the Bairstow stumping there'd be no target on his back about the spirit of cricket.

I don’t really see what reviewing a catch has to do with the spirit of cricket. This really wasn’t something like Broad not walking, it was a decision the umpires had to make, not Stokes.
 
I see the Aussie and neutral lads are having a good old moan, while claiming England moan.
 
Hope we get back on as I'm in a hotel and wifi'd up now. Have them 300-6 and it'll be a great finish.
 
I don’t really see what reviewing a catch has to do with the spirit of cricket. This really wasn’t something like Broad not walking, it was a decision the umpires had to make, not Stokes.
Much like the bairstow run out but englishmen weren't content with umpires making decisions then, there somehow Cummins was expected to call bairstow back but God forbid you question the shiniest knight of spirt of cricket asking a review when he himself knows he has dropped the catch, suddenly it's upto the umpires to adjudge that sort of stuff.
 
This series however it ends up will be a proper 'decide your own version of events' type post series conclusion from players and fans.

You'll have everything from England could have won it 5-0 to Aussies ultimately cruising it with everything inbetween.

And everyone will be kind of right.
 
Much like the bairstow run out but englishmen weren't content with umpires making decisions then, there somehow Cummins was expected to call bairstow back but God forbid you question the shiniest knight of spirt of cricket asking a review when he himself knows he has dropped the catch, suddenly it's upto the umpires to adjudge that sort of stuff.

This is proper moronic nonsense mate. Partisan crap, save it for down the pub.
 
This is proper moronic nonsense mate. Partisan crap, save it for down the pub.
It's not partisan mate, stokes decided to play holier than thou. You can't tell the other team how they should play in the spirit of the game and how you wouldn’t do what they did and then claim clearly dropped catches.
 
England's selection has been awful. How many wickets has Anderson managed the entire series?

Unfortunately he's part of a certain group of English cricketers over the last few years who have their place assured (at least a large percentage of the time) until they decide to retire.

I'm not necessarily saying it's a terrible thing, that's just how it is.

Broad has been the same - been through some dreadful periods of form but never close to being dropped. Swann and Prior were untouchable too.

I have a horrible feeling he will just continue to deteriorate and become less effective going forward and he has to take the decision out of the other hands.

I'm not that optimistic about what follows because there are issues with temperament and injury records with a few of the next cabs off the rank.

But the Anderson of 2023 is not striking any fear in to opponents anymore, the Australians are petrified of Broad but not Anderson.

And I can't see a 41 year old Anderson being hugely effective in a five-test series in India early next year.
 
It's not partisan mate, stokes decided to play holier than thou. You can't tell the other team how they should play in the spirit of the game and how you wouldn’t do what they did and then claim clearly dropped catches.

Well you can as they are entirely different situations.

If you stopped and thought about it for a minute without an Aussie cap on you'd realise it.

One was a subjective spirit of the game call. This was an umpire call.
 
I don’t really see what reviewing a catch has to do with the spirit of cricket. This really wasn’t something like Broad not walking, it was a decision the umpires had to make, not Stokes.

If Stokes was happy to suggest Cummins wasn't playing by the spirit of cricket at Lord's, it's fair to question Stokes' adherence to his moral code when he calls for a review when he clearly dropped the ball.
 
Unfortunately he's part of a certain group of English cricketers over the last few years who have their place assured (at least a large percentage of the time) until they decide to retire.

I'm not necessarily saying it's a terrible thing, that's just how it is.

Broad has been the same - been through some dreadful periods of form but never close to being dropped. Swann and Prior were untouchable too.

I have a horrible feeling he will just continue to deteriorate and become less effective going forward and he has to take the decision out of the other hands.

I'm not that optimistic about what follows because there are issues with temperament and injury records with a few of the next cabs off the rank.

But the Anderson of 2023 is not striking any fear in to opponents anymore, the Australians are petrified of Broad but not Anderson.

And I can't see a 41 year old Anderson being hugely effective in a five-test series in India early next year.
I think England are well set for when Broad and Anderson are gone.

Archer, Wood, Woakes, and Tongue are all good test players. There's some injury concerns, and Wood and Woakes are getting to the tail end of their careers, but on the whole that's a good bowling unit.

There's also Ollie Robinson (although I don't rate him) and Saqib Mahmood who could feature in some capacity too.
 
Well you can as they are entirely different situations.

If you stopped and thought about it for a minute without an Aussie cap on you'd realise it.

One was a subjective spirit of the game call. This was an umpire call.
Why did Stokes review it knowing he dropped it?
 
I think England are well set for when Broad and Anderson are gone.

Archer, Wood, Woakes, and Tongue are all good test players. There's some injury concerns, and Wood and Woakes are getting to the tail end of their careers, but on the whole that's a good bowling unit.

There's also Ollie Robinson (although I don't rate him) and Saqib Mahmood who could feature too.

Robinson has been superb, just had a shit series after coming in non match fit. Wouldn't write him off at all..