English cricket thread

The funniest part is the Aussies would have won anyway. Fired the team and the crowd up nicely now.

England walk this 3-2 from here.
To be fair Aussies had most of the things going against them and they still won. England need to play Mark Wood if he's fit.
 
I still can’t get over Stokes by the way. I called him Brearley in a bucket hat yesterday. Where does he find this drive within himself in these moments? There’s nothing I’d seen in his batting this series that even hinted at what he did, even last night he was struggling with short balls.
 
I think England are sore about this because they are ultimately just too casual in their cricket to ground their bats. It seems like they have a pally relationship with the Australians up to a point and trust them not to do something considered unsportsmanlike, but ultimately, Australia are more fixated on winning, hence the dismissal and the manner of it.

I honestly don't have a problem with the dismissal. It's within the rules and it is the Ashes. Australia want to win and England should be the same.

I don't expect England to go looking for a mankad-style dismissal or uphold one should it be effected, but why should they not expect it from Australia? They may seem like their 'mates', but they desperately want to win and that's a way they can get you out. By the laws of the game it's legal and England should not be holding up Australia to this 'gentleman-style' level that they are doing.

Just ground your bat and be switched on. It's professional cricket.
England have played a bit too soft all series. All the fundamentals have been lacking, just between fielding and grounding their bats they would have found enough to have won these 2 tests.
 
I am not sure about a lot of things regarding this England team but I can tell you 100% that they would have withdrawn there. It’s fine though, shit happens.
They wouldn't have removed the bails in the first place.
What do you expect from a team that sandpapers the ball though.
 
Didn't the Aussies make a big fuss about resetting values and so on a couple of years ago? What a joke
 
Aussie cheats aside, such a shame England couldn't do it. 1-1 with a tight win apiece would've been great. As we are, Australia could be completely useless from here and there'd be a good chance of the weather getting them over the line.
 
Didn't the Aussies make a big fuss about resetting values and so on a couple of years ago? What a joke

I agree overall it’s a bit ridiculous as Australia would have won the game anyway. Now you’ve just riled everyone up.
 
To be fair Aussies had most of the things going against them and they still won. England need to play Mark Wood if he's fit.
Did they though? They lost Lyon, but England were without Leach, Wood, Archer, Stone and Ali from the off and Pope was injured during the game and forced to field. They're the better team, obviously, but injuries are just part of the game and they're hardly some plucky underdog. They also got Root out with a very dubious catch which could have been crucial.

They have the most talent, but I'm not sure they necessarily deserved to win after some of their gamesmanship. England still deserved to lose after some of their batting though and it's fine to admit both of those things can be true.
 
England haven't been too far off in both of these tests and nearly won both of them. They need to use the motivation from this test and learn from their mistakes and ensure they take advantage when they are on top.
 
Just going through the scorecards, England gave away 74 extras, Australia 39.
 
Makes sense.

I know England like to stick with their core but for as much heat as he’s getting right now, Carey’s keeping vs Bairstow’s keeping is a pretty decisive reason as to why Australia are 2-0 up.
 
I know England like to stick with their core but for as much heat as he’s getting right now, Carey’s keeping vs Bairstow’s keeping is a pretty decisive reason as to why Australia are 2-0 up.

Not sure I buy that. I'd have gone with Foakes from the first test myself but no issue with keeping it as it is for now. Bairstow at his home ground and he has a score coming.
 
Someone's got to make a false equivalency to make them look smart I suppose.
 
Deflection? I’m going to go out on a limb and say the worst cheats are on the Australian side, based or current and recent events. Doesn’t change what happened being extremely dubious.

Just find it hypocritical that a guy who is also a cheat is calling others out for cheating. Weird, that.
 
If we're being uncharitable, which it certainly seems we are, they also claimed two grounded catches in this game.
 
Looking around it does some like a lot of younger people think that it's fine because it's in the rules, so it's clever play.

Kinda sad in a way.
 
Crazy that De Grandhomme run out is being used to put down England. That is nothing like what happened today
 
Looking around it does some like a lot of younger people think that it's fine because it's in the rules, so it's clever play.

Kinda sad in a way.
Just a bit of a nightmare if we wanna play this way. We all have to double check for dead ball constantly. Batsmen can never pass the ball to a fielder when it drops at their feet.