English cricket thread

Yep long tail predictably got blown away, Aussies superb today - outthought us.

Need to bowl them out for less than 300 to leave an exciting chase on.
 
Spot on

I don’t think anyone wants to go back to seeing us try and bat out all day for draws and score 1-2 an over

What I think frustrates me the most is that we are playing probably the best team in the world and we can all see England could actually beat them this time around and they’re losing not due to Aussie brilliance but being the architects of our own destruction

Yep absolutely stupidity for one hour lost Ashes
 
Why didn’t they declare 10 mins ago? Pointless couple of overs. I thought Bazball was supposed to be attack-minded and innovative?
They've been there and done that before. It's now more innovative to lose 5 wickets for 50 runs in an hour and a bit.
 
The only thing I’m holding onto is that England are more than capable of chasing down big targets. Any score over 250 (plus the lead) for Australia is going to be tough
 
This series is over
Worried this might be the case after the declaration at Edgbaston. They chased an exciting opening win at the expense of an exciting series. Australia can now play the next three tests without any real pressure on them. Disappointing because it was gearing up to be an exciting summer and could be over before it's even got going.
 
I suppose the one good thing after this diabolical show is that the head coach will be sacked very soon.
 
The only thing I’m holding onto is that England are more than capable of chasing down big targets. Any score over 250 (plus the lead) for Australia is going to be tough
Yeah i'd go with that. 300-350 is chaseable with no Lyon but very tough.
 
It’s made worse by all the bollocks England were coming out with before this match.
 
Spot on

I don’t think anyone wants to go back to seeing us try and bat out all day for draws and score 1-2 an over

What I think frustrates me the most is that we are playing probably the best team in the world and we can all see England could actually beat them this time around and they’re losing not due to Aussie brilliance but being the architects of our own destruction

Yeah. This is why I’m so frustrated and being so negative. We’ve had the chances and this could have been something special but it feels like by our own hand we are going to end up with a standard comfortable Australia series win for the umpteenth time in my life :lol:
 
Yeah. This is why I’m so frustrated and being so negative. We’ve had the chances and this could have been something special but it feels like by our own hand we are going to end up with a standard comfortable Australia series win for the umpteenth time in my life :lol:

First series win here since 2001 is done
 
It’s perfectly possible to be an overall supporter of the new approach and think it’s better than we were under Root, but to also expect us to improve its execution and show some kind of adaptation to game conditions. We can also expect the team to be sharp while being aggressive, which frankly we haven’t been in either match of this series so far.

If we want to become one of the top teams in the world we need to be honest about where we need to improve. It doesn’t have to be a “are you a believer or not?” binary thing.
My suspicion is it's largely a binary thing. I think it only works because they are being incredibly dismissive of any doubts. When they are forced to start doubting whether this or that might be fecking idiotic it will collapse.
 
I suppose the one good thing after this diabolical show is that the head coach will be sacked very soon.

Even if they capitulate to a 5-0 loss, the English lot are up against the obvious best team in the world. England have been doing well prior to this. I would not say Mccullum should be sacked on the basis of this series regardless of the outcome.
 
Im sorry I’m not sure what test match you are watching but the batting approach has meant we have let an advantageous position slip and now we are nearly 100 runs behind.
You can’t judge an entire approach on 1 or even 2 ashes. People are just saying “bazball has cost us” as if playing the previous style would have been better. No one is saying there haven’t been bad shots, but that’s not the same thing at all.
 
It will be interesting to see how England approach their second innings if Aussies can post a lead of 350+. Do they go for it, hammer and tongs, or do they play for a draw?
 
Even if they capitulate to a 5-0 loss, the English lot are up against the obvious best team in the world. England have been doing well prior to this. I would not say Mccullum should be sacked on the basis of this series regardless of the outcome.

Shouldn't have been a 5-0 loss we were 188-1 and THREW IT AWAY. Absolutely sick to the pit of my stomach about that
 
My suspicion is it's largely a binary thing. I think it only works because they are being incredibly dismissive of any doubts. When they are forced to start doubting whether this or that might be fecking idiotic it will collapse.

I was talking more as a fan and the way people are told off for not being more positive when we point out the issues (happening less here than at Edgbaston).

On the players, I think that is true for some of them eg Bairstow I think can only play that way. I don’t think it’s true for people like Root, but hopefully yesterday was a blip and he will be the one of the ones to look back and realise that wasn’t the right tactic in those circumstances.
 
I was talking more as a fan and the way people are told off for not being more positive when we point out the issues (happening less here than at Edgbaston).

On the players, I think that is true for some of them eg Bairstow I think can only play that way. I don’t think it’s true for people like Root, but hopefully yesterday was a blip and he will be the one of the ones to look back and realise that wasn’t the right tactic in those circumstances.

Yeah bit late to realise now isn't it, England deserve to be chasing something ridiculous
 
You can’t judge an entire approach on 1 or even 2 ashes. People are just saying “bazball has cost us” as if playing the previous style would have been better. No one is saying there haven’t been bad shots, but that’s not the same thing at all.

Exactly all out for 200 the old way, the reason we are able to post a reasonable score is by playing shots the other way we weren't playing shots and still getting rolled over, the strength of these players is playing shots

It will be interesting to see how England approach their second innings if Aussies can post a lead of 350+. Do they go for it, hammer and tongs, or do they play for a draw?

I think we all know the answer to that one :lol:

I know its been said in here already, but the comms and pundits on test match cricket on Sky are the best in all of sport for my money
 
Bloody hell. Need a bit of luck here. Feels like this keeps happening.
 
I know its been said in here already, but the comms and pundits on test match cricket on Sky are the best in all of sport for my money
Agree. Strauss and Morgan are a bit of a bore this test. Over the last 15 or so years I’ve watched cricket, sky test comms has been outstanding.
 
You can’t judge an entire approach on 1 or even 2 ashes. People are just saying “bazball has cost us” as if playing the previous style would have been better. No one is saying there haven’t been bad shots, but that’s not the same thing at all.

Im not one of those people. I’m in favour of the new approach but we need to adapt it to certain situations which we havent in this match.
 
TMS still the best coverage for me. I think it’s such a balanced team in terms of personalities and it creates a real warmth. Sky more technical but I’ve turned off it a bit since the likes of Ian Ward came in and Michael Holding left.