Come off it, man for man Australia have the better side, even in England.
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Come off it, man for man Australia have the better side, even in England.
Yeah real kick in the teeth this loss. No way Smith doesn’t get a few big ones through this series.
What does the opposition batting have to do with Bazball? Which Stokes/Mcculum don't think exists anyway BTW
No way our bowling line up is that weakened either.
That sounds like a risky thing to say...
I'm with you on the declaration, it just wasn't the sole reason for losing.
It really isn't and when England were on top at the start, there were predictions of 5-0 even in this thread.
Dunno, if England are going for flat wickets this series I can’t see them outmanoeuvring this Australia attack who move it around just as well but do it a bit quicker.
Yeah I mean they were mostly for Australia.
We are literally playing the number 1 test ranked side and world test champions
Please point these out.
Australian attack is without doubt better than ours. Not even close. I don't think the wickets will have much of a common theme, overheads play such a big part in england. It just so happened we had sahar desert conditions for three weeks leading into this one.
I think it's referring to Samid
I see the anti English brigade have arrived in this thread with their WUM posts and stupidity.
My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
It's pretty chill in here. I loved the test match
List me which England players are better than their Australian counterparts.
My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
You've come in this thread gloating away and everyone is fine after a bad result but great test cricket.
I think it's referring to Samid
No way. I said in jest that McGrath's 5-0 prediction might come true when England were on top
Fair enough. Just think if you told Australia at the toss that they'd restrict England to less than 400 and get to bat already on day 1 they'd take it all day. It gave them a sniff. If there's one team you never ever give a sniff it's Australia.
'Play out a brilliant test match that goes five days with full houses in the greatest rivalry in Cricket'
Haha, where's your so-called Bazball now lads?
Haha, where's your so-called Bazball now lads?
My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
I think the majority have enjoyed a fantastic test match and are looking forward to the rest of the series. Cricket is great like that as most fans can appreciate both teams when the matches are as high quality and close as this one was.
I have to agree. Days 1 and 2 were the best for batting and England should have used those days.
Gloating was when the thread was selecting Root for the Man of the match.
Bar Smith and Labuschane this is an average Australian batting. Khawaja performing in English conditions was not expected.
English batting is far more balanced and then you have Stokes and Bairstow to take the game away from you.
Don't think root would of necessarily been smashing Lyon everywhere if the decleration wasn't coming though, he spooned one up in the air and was nearly caught out the last ball before the decleration aswell and got out second innings charging Lyon so there is every chance he was about to hit himself out anyway.
It's very whataboutery making out the decleration was the reason we lost, we may of added 50 more runs, we may of added none. But opening day of ashes, both Aussie openers under pressure a little session with nothing to gain and everything to lose. Why not put them In and have a little look? Might knick one off? At the end of the day if you want to be aggressive than there is always a element of risk, England under Stokes will always try and force the issue. And they will carry on, this time it didn't work. But I reckon they do it again in the same situation.
I don't think England actually played that well outside of Broad and Root. They can play alot better than that. Think wood and a specialist spinner should come in though. Need some more variety in our attack.
Head is the number 3 ranked batsman in the world and Khawaja’s in the form of his life, last time he was here he couldn’t play spin for any money and now he’s great against it. He’s comfortably better than his equivalent Crawley.
Agreed!
My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
No worries, we're all fairly relaxed here, after all the team is saving test cricket.
Respect to the anti-England brigade that have been pricks from day one, at least they’re dedicated and true to themselves.
Those that have just turned up, go feck off back to the football forum….you were too scared to open your mouths when it was in the balance
Those that have just turned up, go feck off back to the football forum….you were too scared to open your mouths when it was in the balance
Jokes aside give me Bazball causing chaos over the world Cricketing bodies efforts at promoting the game.
I could have predicted a year ago that McGrath would say 5-0, it's all he ever says!My bad. Extremely stupid from McGrath to predict 5-0 for the Aussies. Nonetheless, nothing sweeter than the salty barmy tears.
You joke about this but once franchise contracts kick in, I genuinely don’t know how many more of these we’re going to get. Think everyone should just savour them rather than worry about declarations, styles and shot selection to be honest.
Also just realised my streak of England never losing tests I’ve been to is over.
You really do seem to have some issues against England, don’t you. People were saying if England won Root would be man of the match and if Australia won then Khawaja wouldbe man of the match. That was all.
You are also showing your lack of knowledge on test cricket. Head has been one of the best test performers recently hence he is ranked number 3. Marnus and Smith above him.
Australia have a better all round batting and bowling lineup hence being test champions. You are trying to make some weird case to make England better so you can celebrate further if they lose. Bit sad really.
Isn't head no.3 in the world? Australia's openers are better than both England's as well. That's positions 1 through 5 all in Australia's favour.
Exactly this. There are some really good posters with cricket knowledge who support other nations but always seems to be some weird people who want to come in here and think they can make jibes and ruin the conversation.
You know when you want to have a discussion and then take a step back and think, why am I even bothering.
Someone saying it’s an average Australian batting line up, when England are opening with players like Duckett and Crawley
Someone saying it’s an average Australian batting line up, when England are opening with players like Duckett and Crawley
He could have been told to smash it everywhere. He likely would have done anyway, he didn't need to be told to bat at a tempo because there was no sense in tapping it around in that situation so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that. There wasn't a scenario Root was going to stay in and tap it around at 2 an over. Hadn't happened in the entire innings and wasn't about to happen there. Tailenders would have done the same.
How's it whataboutery to question such an inept decision? What is cheap is that we are now going to defend all of our decisions under this shield of "well if we play aggressively its going to happen." No, that doesn't work. You had a decision well within your control as captain and coach, it was nothing to do with playing style there, it was to do with day 1 of a test match and setting a score which is just basic. We had a par score and we declared it. It just doesn't stand up to scrutiny that this idea that we're going to bat and bowl aggressively and try and press the game means every weird decision gets explained away. Would we do that if Australia made a tactical blunder, "oh well if they're going to play slow then it's going to happen." I don't think so, you get judged on your result and ultimately setting a score that sets up the game in the first innings is a wheel that doesn't need reinventing so when you cock it up its perfectly right to criticise that.
Agree with the comments on the attack. It didn't look threatening enough at times and that is without Smith or Labuschagne playing well.
Result was a bit of a gut punch in the end but I felt better about it going right down to the wire than if we’d just let Carey/Green take it away from us when it looked that way a couple of hours out.
The missed chances obviously need to be ironed out but otherwise our patched together bowling attack felt like the biggest issue so interested to see how we manage that over the rest of the series.
Our record at Lords is poor so not feeling very optimistic about our chances there, but fingers crossed, especially as I’m going. Headingley and OT should be good for atmosphere.
The missed chances obviously need to be ironed out but otherwise our patched together bowling attack felt like the biggest issue so interested to see how we manage that over the rest of the series.
Our record at Lords is poor so not feeling very optimistic about our chances there, but fingers crossed, especially as I’m going. Headingley and OT should be good for atmosphere.