Wicket keeper can’t open in tests
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Isn’t half the point of Bazball to challenge sick and disgusting stereotypes like this one? Test cricket will never be saved if we don’t change this mindset.
I very briefly contemplated Foakes at the top before it occurring to me what an insane ask that would actually be.
Not at all. We've made this very clear by repeatedly picking Robinson.
I think this is fair
Nothing does beat some great test match cricket.
Ussie's late career surge is a joy to watch, Cummins was very clutch and Robinson is a twat
Bring on Lords and hopefully a Boland 5-fer
Ussie's late career surge is a joy to watch, Cummins was very clutch and Robinson is a twat
Bring on Lords and hopefully a Boland 5-fer
Wasn’t QDK still opening for SA when he still played test cricket or am I remembering wrong
Trying to decide who would come off worse if they banned the captains. Cummins the better player at the moment, by a long way, but pretty sure Australia's confidence is much less dependent on him than we are on Stokes.
Great test match but I am curious to know from English supporters what did they make of Such Defensive fields later in the day when they were clearly on top and game was theirs to lose .
That's clearly antithesis to Bazball isn't it .
That's clearly antithesis to Bazball isn't it .
Probably cost them the game
I didn't think the fields were great but also I don't think there's any chance we'd do it on a pitch that was conducive to getting people caught behind so it doesn't bother me much.
I have heard a lot about defensive fields but I didn’t see it much. In the end till about 25 runs left they had attacking fields. The pitch was very slow and so trying to bowl short was more of a tactic
I believe England went too negative by having so many boundary riders for Cummins anyway hoping for Another Classic Ashes like 2005.
For some strange reason England have always been part of some of most Enthralling test matches it seems even before Stokes tenure .
I woudn't go so far most decisions depending on the outcome could look silly or genius .
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I wouldn't have declared on Day 1 but nobody can say for sure that it cost England a sizeable amount of runs.
Whereas they bowled 23 no-balls and Khawaja added an extra 29 because of one so you're already at 52 gifted runs before adding whatever they scored from the extra deliveries. That's something that you're fully in control of and there's no excuse for so many, it probably was the difference in the end.
Whereas they bowled 23 no-balls and Khawaja added an extra 29 because of one so you're already at 52 gifted runs before adding whatever they scored from the extra deliveries. That's something that you're fully in control of and there's no excuse for so many, it probably was the difference in the end.
I think that Root over set them back, coupled with the ball/pitch offering nothing they probably thought they'd stick with how they got the tail out the 1st time around, let's be reasonable if we are in the same position in the next test we'd probably win there is a reason why these guys average 15/16 yesterday was an anomaly not the norm
Yeah the given away runs is a very valid point
Yeah those two sixes knocked stuffing out of us
It was funny on the commentary listening to (I think) Nasser Hussain going on about how Root has excellent figures and they're unable to target him. Then next over he goes for 14 which swung the tie.
I thought Cummins & Co played their game to perfection last night - I said it yesterday, he won't get the headlines as it was slow and steady but we'll look back on his performances on day 4 and 5 as one of the best in an Ashes series.
I love listening to Nassar, he’s perfected that art of talking with such assurance that it doesn’t matter what you say. He could tell me the sky was pink and the moon was made of knob cheese and I’d believe it
He's pretty poor in my opinion. Him and KP bring the commentary team down.
I miss the days of Gower and Bumble.
Did you see Ponting's putting down KP that was quite funny .
I think someone shared a tweet about it but I didn't catch it live - but yes, was great craic.
I was praising his oratory skills tbf, wish I had that level of assurance in my own bullshit
Fair - and agree, he bullshits a lot.
The rest of the comms team are great though - Kumar, Eoin, Ponting, Mel Jones, Athers etc. There's such a big disparity in terms of quality when comparing cricket commentary to football.
This is such hindsight result based analysis. I can mention loads of things Australia did poorly yesterday. Just for Cummins & Lyon, there was a pull shot top edge by Cummins that fell safe & away from Pope At square leg and then Lyon got dropped on the pull with 5 fielders back . Australia won a great game but I really don’t think that it proved much in terms of consistency
Are you seriously telling me you couldn’t drop Joe Cole into that gang and not maintain the repartee
Cumball > Bazball
Thought England were unlucky considering that three of the players were not fit. Stokes is operating on one leg, Ali had his finger in shreds and Bairstow is carrying some timber. I'm not a huge follower of County cricket, so I'm not sure if there's another spinner available if Ali is dropped. Ben Foulkes is a good keeper and bat from previous tests, he should be considered.
Captains knock. What a finish, and what a game.
Sorry lads.
Sorry lads.
I have to say I really quite enjoy England's new gameplan of being aggressive with the bat.
It reminds me a bit of Hayden back in the day when he used to just dominate opening bowlers by being aggressive and taking the game to them. It can really put bowlers off completely.
Boland has been a revelation since coming in to the side and his economy had been sensational, but in both innings the was blasted all around the field.
It reminds me a bit of Hayden back in the day when he used to just dominate opening bowlers by being aggressive and taking the game to them. It can really put bowlers off completely.
Boland has been a revelation since coming in to the side and his economy had been sensational, but in both innings the was blasted all around the field.
Eh? Lyon smacked Broad for a 4 past mid on when they were bowling short into the pads. That's clever batting from a number 9.
Cummins went big in an over from Root to knock 14 off the total. That's clever batting.
You're talking about, at best, half chances. The pull shot that Stokes dropped was in between square leg and the boundary - it would have been an incredible catch but the intent wasn't to smack it for 6 but to get it away for a single. The Cummins one was barely a chance.
Does the keeper usually stand up for him on slower tracks or is that a new thing? I found it very weird.
I can't recall it happening before
I think England forced Australia to do that as Brook and Root especially kept charging up to him. He was quite expensive overall
Yeah it was definitely a response to England's aggression.
Again, full credit to the Poms. I love the new style.
It was definitely a response to us, I thought it was a terrible one though. Sends a horrible message to your bowler.
They were not half chances at all. Both of them had no control of the ball and Lyon actually hit the ball in the air with 4 fielders in the area. He got lucky and that’s fine but it was hardly a master plan in terms of batting. Overall Australia messed up the chase in most parts and with 50+ needed with 9-11 left they would have lost most times. It was hardly a case of their smart consistent cricket winning