England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets

Vile.

He's more welcome in this country than any of those racist cnuts. Hopefully he can afford an even better car after this.

The comments in the go fund link me almost moved me to tears. Such a lovely response.
 
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Look at the state of them.
The evolution of Mackenzie Crook
 
I always wonder what happens to the extra money after the target has been exceeded in fundraisers like this.

For the library, it seems obvious that lots of the almost £200,000 raised so far could still be spent on the library, but will it?

And if this fundraiser gets up to £50,000 or more, do they still give all that to Brendan? And if so, does he buy himself a Range Rover and drive to work in that, or does he spend £5k on a slightly nicer car than the one he had and quit the gruelling 12 hour shifts down at the care home?! Or do they give him the £3k and figure out where the rest goes? Or would that mean they have to refund the donors?
The library could just spend more on resources or donate it to local causes. The bloke hopefully gives himself a nice holiday.
 
This is a bit nuts, my OAP parents, who live near a mosque, have been advised to not leave the house.

My parents won't even let me commute over because they are that scared
 
This is a bit nuts, my OAP parents, who live near a mosque, have been advised to not leave the house.

My parents won't even let me commute over because they are that scared
Ffs.

I'm worried all of this is going to make them start attacking houses, which would turn ugly very fast.
 
Not just one business, two of them! It takes real drive and courage to set up a small business like he did, never mind do it twice over. People like him are such assets to the community. How stupid do you have to be to not realise this?

It’s so sad. The way he tells it in a relatively unemotional way is horrible. This is a man who’s been through horrendous adversity. Having his livelihood destroyed by people who apparently hate him is just the latest hurdle in a life that’s already harder than any of us will ever experience. To see him reach a point where he seems to be all out of options is just heartbreaking.

It's heartbreaking, and there are so many stories like this up and down the country this week.

Once upon a time when I lived in Dublin, I lived in an area that didn't have a barber within a couple of miles, so people had to drive or catch the bus or go for a suuuper long walk to get to the nearest one. An Aghani bloke opened one up right on my street, and the day he opened, it was packed with people. It was so busy so quickly he had to hire additional barbers to meet the demand. Mums and dads would bring their kids for a trim and I would hear them thanking the barber because he had removed one hassle from their lives by providing a much needed service within 5 minutes walk. He became very popular in the area. This was over 10 years ago, and this guy thrived but imagine driving a guy like that out of the area because he is Muslim. My brain simply cannot comprehend it.
 
It's heartbreaking, and there are so many stories like this up and down the country this week.

Once upon a time when I lived in Dublin, I lived in an area that didn't have a barber within a couple of miles, so people had to drive or catch the bus or go for a suuuper long walk to get to the nearest one. An Aghani bloke opened one up right on my street, and the day he opened, it was packed with people. It was so busy so quickly he had to hire additional barbers to meet the demand. Mums and dads would bring their kids for a trim and I would hear them thanking the barber because he had removed one hassle from their lives by providing a much needed service within a 5 minutes walk. He became very popular in the area. This was over 10 years ago, and this guy thrived but imagine driving a guy like that out of the area because he is Muslim. My brain simply cannot comprehend it.

My family had a Sri Lankan GP all through the 70s and 80s and it was an area with a lot of social housing and the cheapest of private houses and it was during a huge recession. We were collectively quite poor. He was a slight curiosity as Ireland was pretty much all white then. There was no racism until the late 90s when there was a huge upsurge in aggression towards him and his daughter who by that time was a GP too. Both racial abuse and questioning him as a doctor. At that time the news was beginning to criticise the health system and the move to private began. We also saw the media tackle the first wave of non white immigration with the usual dog whistle language, and while @Pogue Mahone is right, we do have an innate fear and mistrust of the 'other', we don't always recognise someone different as the 'other' without it being pointed out and manipulated. I don't think it's as strong a reflex as sometimes suggested. Easily led and stupid rather than innately racist is my take.
 
The one Sheffield appears to have ended up being nothing more a damp squib with about 20 or so 'protesters' outnumbered by the stand up to racism counter protest.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/peop...-protesters-gather-in-the-city-centre-4733160

That wasn't the "planned" one here, that's at 8PM tonight. I think rumours just spread about this 1PM one more because there was another (equally as low turn out from the cnuts) here at 1PM on Sunday and people got confused. Think there'll be a bigger turnout later but hopefully they're outnumbered all the same.
 
Wife has been sent home from work from offices in Manchester Piccadilly. Anyone know why?
I think people are just anticipating potential for trouble and making sure staff are safe this week. Same in Salford yesterday, but nothing happened in the end.
 
Are these 'protests going' to be met with Antifascist counter-demos? England has a huge and long-standing anti fascist network
 
I think people are just anticipating potential for trouble and making sure staff are safe this week. Same in Salford yesterday, but nothing happened in the end.

Good, if it starts impinging on profit it will be fully met by the police.
 
How big is the antifascist scene in England these days anyway?

AFA and the like are very loose and reactive organisations in my experience. I attended a few demos in London in the early 90s and they attendees were from all walks. Lots of anarchist and grass roots types and union members. I used to really enjoy the feeling I got when I went. To know people were willing to stand wup as really quite amazing and inspring.
 
AFA and the like are very loose and reactive organisations in my experience. I attended a few demos in London in the early 90s and they attendees were from all walks. Lots of anarchist and grass roots types and union members. I used to really enjoy the feeling I got when I went. To know people were willing to stand wup as really quite amazing and inspring.
you probably didn’t get the full picture, anti-protesting.
 
AFA and the like are very loose and reactive organisations in my experience. I attended a few demos in London in the early 90s and they attendees were from all walks. Lots of anarchist and grass roots types and union members. I used to really enjoy the feeling I got when I went. To know people were willing to stand wup as really quite amazing and inspring.
Is there a kind of overlap with more centrist organisations in England other than unions? Or a connection of some sorts? Here in Germany we have organisations kind of in between „the middle“ and the left, who help a lot when it’s about mobilising people for counter protests and stuff like that. They manage to get everyone from the AFA to average people on the streets. Which makes quite a huge difference in my view.
 
This is fact. The government need to keep pointing out the benefits of immigration. The rate of new businesses set up by immigrants is huge because they have no network to tap into. They create so much.

In the closest village to me, a place with very few immigrants, 3 of the 10 businesses are set up by immigrants.

Where I live is really vibrant in terms of art and culture and mainly due to people moving here from Dublin and beyond. None of us are wholly welcome but they never actually stand back and realise it's such an essential part of the village they love and are proud of.

Movement of people has always been a huge cultural and economic bonus for us all.
exactly
"Although 14.5% of the UK's population are immigrants, 39% of the country's top 100 fastest growing companies have a foreign-born founder or co-founder, new research reveals."

That is excluding business owners born to immigrant parents or grandparents.

https://www.enterprisenation.com/le...rs-39-per-cent-uk-fastest-growing-businesses/
 
Ffs.

I'm worried all of this is going to make them start attacking houses, which would turn ugly very fast.
I told my parents to just stay upstairs.

I shouldn't have to say that. I'm just glad my daughters are on holiday/vacation at the moment and well away from here.

Still going to play football in the park at 8pm with a bunch of Muslim guys I met a few months ago. My defiance is keeping a clean sheet.
 
I told my parents to just stay upstairs.

I shouldn't have to say that. I'm just glad my daughters are on holiday/vacation at the moment and well away from here.

Still going to play football in the park at 8pm with a bunch of Muslim guys I met a few months ago. My defiance is keeping a clean sheet.
Stay safe. Same for your mum and dad.
 
Is there a kind of overlap with more centrist organisations in England other than unions? Or a connection of some sorts? Here in Germany we have organisations kind of in between „the middle“ and the left, who help a lot when it’s about mobilising people for counter protests and stuff like that. They manage to get everyone from the AFA to average people on the streets. Which makes quite a huge difference in my view.

Not as far as I know. In Ireland in structural terms I find the middle without malice mostly but in opposition to anything that threatens the status quo. A hindrance to real progressive politics in my opinion. There is a huge conservative element to the middle in Irish terms. Ireland is odd as this left / right dichotomy is almost entirely new to us, (being post colonial and lacking any participation in the industrial revolution and the politics that it entailed).
 
Wife has been sent home from work from offices in Manchester Piccadilly. Anyone know why?
Worked from home today but an email went round telling everyone in the office to avoid Piccadilly on their way home if possible.

Probably the result of snowballing anxiety and overcaution. Which is bad enough, but hopefully it's not anything worse!
 
I remember in my teen years I was part of the local communist youth, to be honest no one gave two fecks about communism, but almost every weekend we'd find out were the racist fascists would be and we'd show up in greater numbers, invariably those pussies just showed up, hurled a few racist insults and disappeared.

I feel they need to feel this again, wherever they show up, anti-racists and anti-fascists need to be there in much larger numbers. They feel like they are the silent majority, they need to be shown they're not, they're the opposite, a loud minority.

Last time those feckers tried to gather in one of lisbon's main squares to protest too many indians and pakistanis, a couple thousand people just showed up. They were about 200 and fecked off in about 15 minutes. I'm proud I was there.

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