You can't ignore them but you have to also recognize that they are xenophobes, you also have to recognize that many politicians have cultivated xenophobia to gain votes while doing nothing for citizens of their country which increases the likelihood of creating new xenophobes.
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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You can't ignore them but you have to also recognize that they are xenophobes, you also have to recognize that many politicians have cultivated xenophobia to gain votes while doing nothing for citizens of their country which increases the likelihood of creating new xenophobes.
They’ll be monumentally outnumbered wherever they go in London and other major City’s. They’re targeting a Mosque in Hackney and an Immigration Centre in Walthamstow.
Last 24 hours have seen a collection of friends and extended friendship groups organise a WhatsApp group to attend as oppositional force in our local community whenever they show up.
Bristol showed the way forward with all of this. It’s easy to say ‘leave them to it’. But these dickheads need to know they’re outnumbered by orders of magnitude. None of us are going for a tear up. We’ll stand around as bodies, take the piss and wave them off, then all catch up for a beer.
Cant say the same for small Cities and Towns. It’s hard to make a case to be out on the streets when you’ll be a smaller group with less police on call.
There is in Sheffield at the minute where something was planned for 1PM, there's about 15 of the cnuts turned up, 60+ police and 150+ counter protestors. There's something else apparently planned at 8PM which I think will have a bigger turn out of cnuts but hopefully they're outnumbered all the same.
Growing up in the 60's in Manchester it was pretty common to see women of all ages with headscarfs in the street, presumbably protecting their hairdo, but I was a kid so I wasn't interested in any of the reasons TBH!
I'm in Doncaster. Luckily it doesn't seem to be a target for an organised riot yet, or maybe because Rotherham is close by they just went there.
I will also say that some people you pass in the street and in places are now acting extra friendly, and others rather than act how they normally would seem to be caught between whether they should completely avoid eye contact or smile. It's quite bizzare.
Good to see some of the cnuts from that video of a lad getting beaten up in Piccadilly Gardens are getting their c'nuppins.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/manchester-court-updates-live-more-29691848
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/manchester-court-updates-live-more-29691848
Yeah this indeed is unfortunately not a new thing here, particularly in South Belfast. Sure they are now emboldened by what's happening in England but this shit has been going on well before these "protests" started
Last year a Syrian refugee who lives across the street from me had his business burnt down the day before opening. He had been here for years working as a taxi driver to get the money together, I believe he also helped out fellow refugees by teaching English in his spare time.
"Local shops and houses for local people", there were residents living above the shop they set fire to...
Previously the house he is in was some form of halfway house for some real questionable character, always causing trouble and causing the police to be out. I'd take any decent person regardless of where or how they've came here over those kind of locals...
On a side note, the racist that Nolan interviewed yesterday, claiming there used to be lots of local shops and now there's barely anything. If it wasn't for some of Immigrants and refugees trying to set up businesses in order to improve their lives, those areas wouldn't magically have more local shops. I doubt most people actually want to open businesses there because of the trouble that flares up somewhat regularly. You reap what you sow and all that.
Education is a big part of the problem here, but it is far from the only issue and should not be in anyway be used as an excuse for the colossal levels of ignorance and intolerance
Some other examples from South Belfast where the recent trouble has been
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67614223
A charity targeted in racist attacks had been advised by police to reassure loyalist community leaders it was not running a mosque...
Attacked twice in two years I believe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22djrdgx3o
Odegua, who has lived in Northern Ireland for almost two decades, said her daughter "can't even sit at the window because of when they broke the window".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-66549620
Shop set on fire, other previous attacks
Short 30minute Spotlight documentary from last year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001t6fq/spotlight-the-rise-of-race-hate
Matthew Wilson back into court for outburst
Mr Wilson has been brought back to court. District Judge Hamilton asked him to apologise for this morning’s outburst or spend the next seven days in custody for contempt.At first the defendant remained silent and said: “Yeah, go on then.”
Probed to give a ‘proper apology’ by the judge, he said: “I’m sorry for punching the glass.”
Duty solicitor Mr Philpott said: “I saw him earlier over the lunchtime adjournment. He apologises. He is mentally frustrated by recent events.”
The case has now concluded and Mr Wilson will next appear at Manchester Crown Court on September 11.
He sounds lovely.
I was meant to be going out to the cricket tomorrow but have cancelled my plans as the risk is uncertain and I don't want to take a chance something might happen. We are being made to feel like second class citizens with all of this. Utterly sick of it. There needs to be more people with greater followings speaking out against this. Too many people remaining quiet.
They always do the same thing though, setup in a few different areas so the police can't properly cover anyone of them. Most will already be working their days off but there's not enough police. The same happened in the last riots and the Bradford race riots.
We have a society where we delegate protection to the police and then underfund them. Some of these protests are less than 50 hooligans and you've got businesses sending thousands home to avoid them.
Sorry to hear that mate. It is rough and hopefully the authorities ramp up the pushback.It's disgusting. I'm so sorry that you are being made to feel this way. Hopefully you know it's just a very vocal thick as shit minority of bellends, but that doesn't change the fear you'd be feeling.
This thread needs to reverse the cnut letter change. Cnut doesn't have the same impact and these racist pricks should be described that way.
It's mental, the amount of money being wasted through this shite. Yet these twats get a slap on the wrist. It's making the entire Police Force, Government and Court System look utterly imcompetent.
You've got people cancelling their plans and afraid to go outside because of this. Enough is enough. Stop being timid and put these cnuts in their place.
Thank you both, my partner was concerned and worried over what might happen. There are protests planned in that area tonight so with train travelling and people drunk at the venue who knows what might happen. My friends were very supportive and are disgusted over the whole situation as well.
Then you have fecking cnuts like this with this language.
Our office (Manchester) is closing for the week on advice of GMP, just had a friend also working in the city centre text me to say the same.
This is fact. The government need to keep pointing out the benefits of immigration. The rate of new businesses set up by immigrants is huge because they have no network to tap into. They create so much.
In the closest village to me, a place with very few immigrants, 3 of the 10 businesses are set up by immigrants.
Where I live is really vibrant in terms of art and culture and mainly due to people moving here from Dublin and beyond. None of us are wholly welcome but they never actually stand back and realise it's such an essential part of the village they love and are proud of.
Movement of people has always been a huge cultural and economic bonus for us all.
I'm so sorry to hear that, man. The situation is utterly dreadful and disgusting right now. My friends messaged me this morning to say his wife is very scared about going outside of their area just now, bloody awful.
Whilst I read reading that, it struck me that we may have 1 or 2 posters who may have attended protests/riots.
This sucks. I'm really sorry you or anyone has to even think like this. It's really upsetting. And surely people reading stories like this realise it's not enough to just not be a racist. We should all be actively anti racist.
Thanks mate, yep weighed everything up and it's just not worth taking any risks now considering what might happen. I just hope this passes soon.
Ignorance. MPs should get themselves educated before they embarrass themselves. There’s a lot of ignorance in the country.
Thank you @moses. The risks just seem too high at the moment and I know a number of other people are feeling the same. I think more needs to happen to make communities reassured and some of the bigger players at play behind the scenes responsible for the language need to be prosecuted.
My grandmothers used to wear headscarfs. Now women wear woolly hats instead.
Disgusting, won't call them human beings. Thank goodness people have rallied round to help him.
Right wing thugs.
Not sure how this fits in with your post but I feel like a rant, Mo.
Always made me chuckle how quickly everyone had French flags as their DP, or the Ukrainian yellow and blue but a Palestinian flag? Don't see many of those. Or how everybody was being conditioned to boycott Qatar(the general population caring about Muslims and what not being exploited by sheikhs - chuckle)yet all these Western countries like Germany, France hosting events and having a disgusting stance on let's be honest a genocide, didn't cause any noises. No one will boycott the US WC either for being far worse. It's insane how easily we're manipulated despite the age of social media/net. Or has it made it easier? We've lost our fake moral superiority.
Look at the state of them.
I'm truly shocked that they look like this.
Yes, fair enough. To be honest I've probably got some minor unresovled identity issues of my own.
I've never faced any racism as I'm white, unlike what Paloma's children might go on to suffer one day if they haven't already.
My dad was a refugee following WWII and I've struggled with the census question in terms of "White British" or "White other" before. I've been told I'm white British by someone over the phone by someone filling a survery of people using their services before when I explained my background and I had to answer a similar question.
My grandmother suffered discrimination long before I was born. Her husband at the time (not my biological grandfather, but my dad's step-dad) went missing in the 1950s when they lived in Newcastle. His headless body was eventually found washed up on the shore in a place called Tynemouth.
While he was missing she was obviously worried so was contacting the police regularly to see if there was any news. At one point she was very kindly told by the police that he'd probably left her for being a German bitch. She's not German, but even she was that's obviously not good. She did have a European accent. On the other hand it was different times and we do try think things are better now, but then looking at what's going on now it's not really the case. It was at a time when the war was still fresh in the minds of people so there's that, and she suffered other discrimination off people too. That incident was the worst of it.
I think of that at times.
Sometimes you see people saying someone is just as British as anyone else because they hold the passport or were born here, other times people's roots are emphasised as a great positive to celebrate diversity, saving the UK from being boring and we're told to notice differences then. Of course I don't want to see a world where people's background is brought up in a negative light. It's a minor thing and maybe I'd like everything to fit into nice unrealistic box, where everyone is the same all of the time but I see that as incosistent in some ways.
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Vile.
He's more welcome in this country than any of those racist cnuts. Hopefully he can afford an even better car after this.
It wouldn't surprise me, but hopefully we're too nice a community on here!
The only bit I disagree with it that we've lost our fake moral superiority. We will definitely roll it out when needed. It is built off the back of colonial genocide and included the bombing of Hiroshima and the pummelling of Vietnam with ordinance and chemicals at a rate which made world war 2 look like a skirmish. It's lies and dissonance and we have proven very skilful at that.
The foundations of our societies are built on the above and we just pretend it was ancient history. The establishment that didn't really mind Hitler is still largely in place, that sort of power and money isn't entirely gone in under two generations.
Like the US being built on slavery, Europe is not much further removed.
Hopefully the news of the first few prison sentences will discourage a few but I doubt they've got the critical thinking required.
I always wonder what happens to the extra money after the target has been exceeded in fundraisers like this.
For the library, it seems obvious that lots of the almost £200,000 raised so far could still be spent on the library, but will it?
And if this fundraiser gets up to £50,000 or more, do they still give all that to Brendan? And if so, does he buy himself a Range Rover and drive to work in that, or does he spend £5k on a slightly nicer car than the one he had and quit the gruelling 12 hour shifts down at the care home?! Or do they give him the £3k and figure out where the rest goes? Or would that mean they have to refund the donors?