Also a concurrent sentence. You essentially get a freebie if you've already committed serious offences. He may as well have 18 of them, as he'd have spent the same amount of time in prison.
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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Those idiots are all still racists, though. They just haven't made it their life's purpose like some others. They all still hold racist views.
True, but that's just a economic indicator and I still refuse to believe that it's the mass of people in those economic circumstances. If it was it would be 100k+s of people. The common denominator of the gammon is failing intellect, not the empty bank account.
It is a joke. I'm not a lawyer either but there should be a way to make the cases run consecutively.
In the algarve people just assume all english under 60 will cause trouble. No need for any of that.
Yep, it's absolutely racism. The attempts at explaining the underlying anger and structural factors do not at all take away from the fact that this is racist violence.
Thats the main thing for me. None of these bastards will get away with anything other than a jail sentence.
Think of all the people who would be late for work, mate.
These sentences seem a bit weak really when you compare them to recent cases in the news but I’m guessing it’s based off a matrix. This should be enough of a deterrent though for those looking to go out tonight and cause trouble.
Its more about how they behave, especially after having their way with the all inclusive bar. There are plenty of low-income folk who behave in a perfectly civilised manner, the majority in fact.
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2 months for racially aggravated element is a joke.
Call in the army. I know he wants to leave control with the police but this is going too far.
It really is. It's also infuriating. Feel so helpless seeing things like this, or reading posts like that from @Mystry re concern for partners, family etc.
University campuses have been notified by police they will be targets for far-right demonstrations.
I have a feeling these will be damp squibs for the organisers.
Yeah this is really getting out of control now, the response needs to be stepped up. There’s a march planned around the corner from me, and it has all the ingredients for a serious escalation if numbers turn up for it.
Jesus fecking Christ. They claim to be concerned about the safety of children and now they’re targeted places inhabited by teenagers. Vermin. The lot of them.
Ahh, the far right's biggest fear after coloured folk - education. Checks out.
This is thankfully probably correct.
I hope you are right.
Thing is Universities and the legal firms they’re targeting are going to be closed so what’s the plan?
I think it is quite fitting they are threatening to do this in August. They probably don't realise it is the vacation period.
Think there's often a fair number of international students who stick around during the summer breaks. Though these simpleton thugs probably don't realise they're paying astronomical tuition fees.
All three of them in that report had travelled in from Liverpool just to cause trouble in another town.
Look at the state of them.
Woke Antifa Marxist Teens! Who are probably all on holidays in Cuban bootcamps.
They seem to be digging arson lately.
Boggis, Bunce and Bean
Look at the state of them.
Jesus Christ
That's a good point. I know some unis are bringing in private security, and I have heard of two basically insisting on a 5pm curfew.
Is Cuban the new Soros already?
This the real danger.
Successive Tory governments have made it worse, going right back to Cameron and his stupid Brexit referendum. Lots of people in many parts of the UK have been feeling left out, as the Tories played 'musical chairs' with their leader, and with the countries PM. In so doing providing for the current of unrest to re-settle.
'Stopping the boats' (although involving relative small numbers) has become the 'headline' thing that people want to see happen, as much as anything because it offenders the sentiments of the British (queue lovers as we are) as a whole, that people are some how 'sneaking in the back door'.
Immigrants (of all kinds) have always been welcomed in these islands and now (going forward) are indeed necessary for this country to survive and develop, but they have to come in the front door, not sneak in the back.
Rishi did at least try to recognise this and counteract it, but again with another stupid idea of removing people to Rwanda and that somehow would be a solution, but which led correctly to cries of 'bullshit'.
Now Starmer (who really has no time on his side now with all the other problems he faces) wants to solve the problem by going after the people smugglers, etc. yet, he seems oblivious to the fact the authorities have been pursuing drug smugglers for years, but getting nowhere.
Starmer either has to put in place a proper/effective system to expedite claims, or persuade people not come. If he doesn't do the former, the rioting mobs will provide the latter in the form of a 'fear-factor' to try to deter people.
In the meantime for all those migrants already settled here, many into their second and third generations, will tend to get caught up, as targets by the mobs, simply because of the colour of their skin or their religion.
Dark days indeed and the 'knuckle-draggers' could be just the first wave of unrest that will cause as much anguish and upset as the whole Brexit debacle did in British political life, and this will double-down on matters.
We need to be aware of how much of the ice-berg is below the surface.
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Nor did I suggest it should. I am suggesting that potentially, an increase in racist violence is not wholly explained by membership of the "Far Right".
Or moreso, what about the potential for increased racism that is not manifesting itself in the form of riots? Extremist behaviour is easier to identify and therefore, we can hope that all involved will be met with the full force of the law.
But what about the underlying rise of mistrust and racist sentiment? I have seen it here in Ireland, however I cannot speak for the UK. While the riots etc are shocking to see, social non-acceptance and other racist behaviour can be just as hurtful to live with for immigrants, and I fear this will escalate if underlying structural issues are not addressed immediately.
‘Students’ have been regularly demonised for their supposed imagined politics and Unis called incubators of radical far left Marxist indoctrination by all the usual regular mouthpieces for ages. It’s very much on brand as a far right target tbh and there’s never any real mainstream pushback.
Even by right wing standards, this guy has done all the right things. He's come to the UK, opened up a business that services the local community, pays his taxes, creates jobs, and yet they've still driven him out of the area. They knew him by name. That's fecking terrifying. I'd get my family out of there too.
Broke my heart seeing this.
Absolutely, the end actions are racist. 100%
However, take two people. Person One is clearly a racist and the end goal is to cause harm and distress to other ethnic groups.
Person Two does not believe they are racist, they only hold these views because they don't feel safe in their country, or want to protect their kids, or whatever justification they use to rationalise their racist behaviour in their head.
While we both agree that both committing racist acts should receive the same treatment, the underlying reasons of Person Two are different and. That requires consideration.
Or the real risk is that there is a meaningful rightward shift in the "majority", and Person Two is no longer even considered "racist".
Cuba dude, Cuba.