Correct. Needs a huge overhaul, they're complicit in what's happening to this country.
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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Correct. Needs a huge overhaul, they're complicit in what's happening to this country.
The fact these migrants have to stay in these hotels for so long is a government decision, that's where the outrage should be directed at.
I was watching a Tom Nicholas video the other day and this graph is just unbelievable.
If anyone want to watch it, I think it's worth it. The sources are in the description.
I’d bet anything a lot of the hotels are owned by mates of Tories too.. it’s all part of the scam
Tourism benefits the local area?
It's hardly the most pressing issue here, but it's also not completely illogical.
Rumours going around that there will be similar scenes in Stockton later today.
The BBC has truly lost it's way - Farage rot has set in and they are pandering to racist views now because their Tory funding boss is still in charge. The government needs to cull Davie and his acolytes and return the BBC to sound management.
Watching the BBC decline in the last 5 years was amongst the final straw in deciding to leave the country and move to Ireland for us.
Calling fascist filth "Populist" was the start of a slippery slope that has ended up with scum marauding the streets threatening anyone who doesn't conform to their mutated view of Englishness.
Ain't no one going to fecking Tamworth on holiday
Yes he is the non executive member for England on the BBC Board appointed by the Tory party when they were in government, he was appointed until May 2028. He is without a doubt a strong Tory voice trying to direct the BBC. Thankfully he is only one of 14.
That's being wilfully obtuse. Obviously people are going to want their local businesses to be used for their intended purpose and hopefully benefit the area, there is nothing wrong with that concern as long as it isn't combined with petrol.
Looks to me like he's still on the board.
Still listed on the BBC website
https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whoweare/bbcboard
Article here from March
https://www.thenational.scot/news/2...ry-party-robbie-gibbs-bbc-board-role-renewed/
the government controls the bbc rhetoric mostly by who gets hired during their tenure, and it’s obviously still rammed full of Tories now
People visiting the surrounding areas might, we have people visiting the Lake District who will use hotels in my hometown.
That was Richard Sharp, former Chair of the BBC, another Tory plant.
He is one of four non executive member son the board appointed by government, so when his tenure came up in march this year, Sunak's government renewed it.
I mean burning down businesses you're worried about probably isnt the best way to have them succeed. I doubt majority of the rioters care about anything other than kicking coloured people out. They're as thick as pig shit.
I'm still amazed that the Daily Mail call out the right wing nutjob rioters, and the Telegraph are trying to muddy the waters and blame both sides for what's been going on. I don't expect much from either paper but you'd think the "broadsheet" wouldn't be the worse one.
And then, surprise, the BBC parrot the exact same thing as the Telegraph.
And then, surprise, the BBC parrot the exact same thing as the Telegraph.
Not the rioters, but often these riots are the perversion of legitimate issues.
From my experience with refugees in Italy usually they want to go where they know people, either they have family there or a few friends have made the journey already. None I ever met were heading for the UK but it's known to have a 'good' system in that its easier to get your application approved and they're given more support than other countries.
I don't understand why these business owners worried about tourism reducing because of hotel rooms being full don't do some Airbnb?
That way, they get the Airbnb money, the tourist money and the asylum seeker money?
I thought these people were entrepreneurs?
That way, they get the Airbnb money, the tourist money and the asylum seeker money?
I thought these people were entrepreneurs?
Of course but we live in a civilised society, or at least I thought we did, and you'd expect these people to protest in a different manner. Even then, I severely doubt a lot of these people are informed enough to understand the actual issues impacting their lives.
I'd imagine most never watch the news or read a newspaper. All their opinions will be formed from social media.
Ideally yes, but they're not protesting, they're venting because they sense and experience injustice but often just can't engage. That's why it's often distilled down to accusations of pedophilia and rape; surely nobody can oppose that?
Also, it's easier to punch down than punch up.
I think @AngeloHenriquez genuinely didn't kkow what's been happening. I was talking to my best friend last night and he incredibly had no idea about the country's troubles these past 3 days. He doesn't visit social media other than Facebook every couple of weeks.
I think a good chunk of the population is the same. The don't watch TV news, no social media except a Facebook or LinkedIn page that they visit once in a while to get skewered news.
I think a good chunk of the population is the same. The don't watch TV news, no social media except a Facebook or LinkedIn page that they visit once in a while to get skewered news.
In certain areas, near where I live, a hotel being taken off the market can sink the local economy and put small businesses out of existence, thus worsening some of the already socially and economically marginalised sections of the country.
I'm 100% open borders, but there are less destructive ways to do it.
Wow.
I can't believe a British bengali would have represented him, case of professionalism before personal politics.
I didn't in truth, I try to stay away from most forms of news it can get depressing but I've found myself wanting to keep up more as I get older with events going on but like others have said I could have and will next time make more effort to read through a few pages
Sort of agree. But then there are plenty of us in the same boat them, and we don't feel the need to resort to these extremes to get our messages across. I find it hard to justify (understand?) their actions. There are definitely better ways to do this. I absolutely understand what you're saying though.
I would take that with a big pinch of salt, no lawyer with any integrity or care for their career is going to leak personal whatsapp conversations with their client.
It maybe she is his lawyer and she may have quit, but I still would not believe that screen shot is genuine.
I get that, but if the hotel is off the market, surely that's an opportunity for private owners to increase their profits? Renting out any free space
I am 100% not justifying their actions, they are at best ignorant footsoldiers for people I detest. I just think as full an understanding as possible of what is happening is essential for a fix.
The funny thing is, you thought you would of learned not to listen to the right wing media and politician on whose fault it is.
The global financial crisis was a trigger for austerity and that was blamed on to many government services and the "scroungers". Benefits system was destroyed, social care gone, policing cut, public services cut.. Not too mention the cuts to councils forcing closures of leisure centres, youth centers and pretty much any benefit to the public. Then you have punalative acts targeting the lower class like the bedroom tax, or outsourcing PIP assessment on target based contracts. Lack of investment by the government slows the investment by private business. But hey we had stuff like benefits street and Cameron constantly repeating the line "strivers not scrounges" to continue the vilification.
Not too mention the mass sell off of social housing via right to buy and the lack of replacement being built by successive governments.
Country debt doubles and Austerity was a disaster, the middle and lower class become disenfranchised so guess what, we are told to blame the EU. To many people coming from the EU, EU Laws suppress us, EU Laws are stopping our economic growth etc etc.
Brexit happens, the pot at the end of the rainbow never appears, infact it's worst. Economic growth slows. Areas with large industry are impact as manufacturing moves abroad, then Mr Brexit James Dyson moves operations outside the UK. The fishing industry is decimated, farmers are struggling and small business are snowed under by red tape.
National debt has tripled
So guess what, we're now blaming immigration and "illegal" immigration. Oh we're spending millions a day on putting asylum seekers in hotels? Oh we're not sending them back. Is that their fault or is it the years or underfunding and cuts to the home office that processing time has doubled? NHS waiting lists up? Is that because of a few coloured faces or is it because bursaries were cut, pay has not increased in years so we have a lack of junior doctors and nurses, with the ones we do train are quick to leave. Is it because we have an ageing population and social care cuts so we lack out of hospital care. What else is their. fault?
What happens when we get rid of immigrants and you give up your rights because we've removed ourselves from the ECHR? So companies and the government can have free reign over you? Who do you blame then? What happens when we have more and more people entering the years for their state pension and for longer but we don't have enough people in the current general working population supporting it? Look at Germany, they are us in 10 years, practically begging for immigration as they don't have enough people working to support the older population and to build their workforce. We're actually already there. Look at the lack of workers in certain industry and we wonder why immigration has risen.
Maybe people need to educate themselves on the benefits that people from outside this country are real entitled to. My other half is American,I guess nobody minds as she's the right type of migrant, but if she lost her job can she apply for benefits? Nope.
All this this whilst real term wages have stagnated, cost of living has increased, bills go up, house prices rise, whilst corporate profits keep rising but we see none of it.. We struggle to get onto the ladder whilst real estate corps are allowed to sit on land rather than build for years on end, build large rent only developments whilst others can hoard houses and leave them empty. That's the real failure to acknowledge that's happening.
As long as people are able to be convinced they are better than others, they won't notice what they being exploited by those richer.
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The screenshot isn't from her PoV
That looks like it's been leaked, not by the lawyer, but by whoever she is talking to. The screenshot is from the perspective of the second person, presumably TR in this case.
Again using local examples, maybe if it is off the market it is a sign the area is disadvantaged, and then adding extra people might put a strain on services such as education and health.
Like I said in the Irish version of this thread, using that same hotel for this prpose in a slightly different way could help the community, but the reality as it stands, is not so.
This is bizarre unless you mean teenagers?
I'm 50 and most of the liberals I know fit nowhere near this odd take.
They’re idiots first and foremost. But they’ve also been marginalised, manipulated, ignored, and feel cheated. There’s a deep mistrust of the government and the “deep state”. I don’t think any of them actually expect anything to come of this, it’s anger and a feeling of empowerment which has brought this about.
The lawyer didn't leak it. Tommeh accidently leaked it with screenshots of people giving him props.
Yeah of course. I totally understand but then they should direct their concerns at those who are treating them this way. The coloured person next door to them isn't responsible for their struggles.
I'm not actually arguing with yourself or @moses, hope you both know. Tough times, repulsive behaviour. Displaying anger like we've seen over the past few days is expected of animals, not human but then again, i don't think I'd ever describe these people as humans. They're vile no matter what they're going through.