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How come Saka gets to redeem himself but Rashford isn't asked to go and represent England?
How come Saka gets to redeem himself but Rashford isn't asked to go and represent England?
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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I find it poetic that he was actually good through the previous 3 tournaments and you decided that he was actually crap and the reason you didn't win - which is still delusional bullshit, btw - , and now you're gonna win these euros, in which he's actually been crap and should have been the reason you went out...You make good points but I think it'll be different here because we know he actually likes Shaw. We know how he is when it comes to his favourites and, fortunately this time, Shaw seems to be in that category.
I just find it funny how our roles have changed here with me somewhat defending him and you criticising him!
International football is basically a dice game. You roll 'em and hope you're lucky. And also defence and set pieces
It's genuinely hilarious still how much people underrate Pickford.
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Netherlands are gonna destroy us.
Netherlands are gonna destroy us.
He’s a fecking great keeper for us.
Sterling was great for England. His goals were carrying us at the last Euros. Never really got the respect he deserved.
I get the why many people would have taken Rashford. Southgate almost certainly would have been criticised for taking a player that had a terrible season over others that out performed him. He's already accused of having favourites. I fully support taking the players that are in better form. Especially since we were spoilt for choice in the forward department. Everybody that got picked had a great season.
If we were able to make it to a final against Spain, Rashford would have been a great asset to have, though. When he's on it, there are very few better than him during transitions.
He has basically never let England down, but there is still something about him that makes me not fully trust him. I don't really understand why. I realise at this point that it's a me problem.
He absolutely wasn't good through the last three tournaments though.
Are yellows scrubbed now?
He's been top notch for Everton for around 3 or 4 seasons now, to go along with those excellent England performances. Anyone who still doesn't rate him just has an agenda due to his antics.
1 left winger. Incredible from Gareth
This last one is even better, trying to sell Foden as a transition threat
Love all the boys but Fodens had a very shit tournament.
Because he never was, and never will be the player that the general consensus makes him out to be. If he was at #10 or the right wing throughout the tournament, he still wouldn't have done much.
Saka is better, it's already obvious, it was obvious 2 years ago, and hopefully won't even be a question in a few years' time.
Something feels wrong about England only winning 1 match in 90mins all tournament and being in the semis
Is it worse than France who have yet to themselves score a goal from open play?
Despite the water carrier holding France back with derisory tactics and favouritism, he, unlike Southgate, has played and beaten the best. Won the WC and could add the Euros.
No. Sorry Mr Doracle. Or should I say, Mr Adorable.
Because he played shite all season and didn't deserve a call up.
No evidence whatsoever that England can beat any of the 3 left. Especially, the other semi.
I thought we played slightly better yesterday but still poor overall. The most worrying thing is the lack of chances being created. Final third has not come close to working all tourney.
I give us a 10% chance of winning the whole thing. No more.
I thought we played slightly better yesterday but still poor overall. The most worrying thing is the lack of chances being created. Final third has not come close to working all tourney.
I give us a 10% chance of winning the whole thing. No more.
Surely you already know the answer to that.
England, forever allergic to balance.
Not sure why you're quoting me. All three are perfectly comfortable on the left.
I'm not going mad am I. Kane has been awful all tournament? Like really really poor.
If England revert to type and try and soak up the pressure from the dutch they will get ripped apart.
Our defence has been suspect against lone runners but the dutch will run at us in waves and we'll end up giving away a goal or a penalty by Stones over-committing and leaving space.
Shaw isn't fit enough to play a whole game.
A good tactician would go for Holland's throat from the get go and get a couple of quick goals, then pick them off on the break with counterattacks.
Speedy players up front and England have a chance. If Kane and Foden are in the starting 11 then they will lose.
Our defence has been suspect against lone runners but the dutch will run at us in waves and we'll end up giving away a goal or a penalty by Stones over-committing and leaving space.
Shaw isn't fit enough to play a whole game.
A good tactician would go for Holland's throat from the get go and get a couple of quick goals, then pick them off on the break with counterattacks.
Speedy players up front and England have a chance. If Kane and Foden are in the starting 11 then they will lose.
Is what I think we need to play. Even that still has 2 players out of position. Palmer I don't believe can't play on the left though, and Eze can drift there. (Hence staring him over Mainoo). Eze should cover the deficiancies of the LB too.
It gets Foden in the centre (where I much prefer him). It gives Bellingham a left sided player with actual pace (like he had with Madrid) and no one ahead of him (like he has with Madrid). But Palmer can move into CF position (like Vini at Madrid)
Hypothetically Foden and Bellingham will still be trying to play in the same position but Foden can also go ahead of Bellingham or drop deep
As an alternative with a proper striker.
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We only seem to respond when we go behind and that response is usually maddeningly slow and reliant on individual brilliance rather than an actual attacking system or plan. Southgate has been saved by big players creating big moments and he's running out of luck.
Thing is it’s about balance. The Dutch defenders and midfielders are better on the ball and passing the ball in between the lines so you’d at least take two or three of them in this England team.
For example, stick Akanji and Xhaka from that Switzerland team in this England one and they would make a massive difference. We’re lacking that profile of player.
The only player from the 3 who is a left winger is Gordon...and Southgate won't even play him. Foden has been abysmal on the left.
All three have played there plenty of times for their clubs. Foden just simply hasn't been able to translate his club form into top performances for the national team - regardless of which position he has operated in.
Because he's not as good as his City performances will lead you to believe. He needs the perfect environment and system and then he can be great in certain things, but still not everything. Look at a player like Saka or Palmer, or even an in-form Rashford, those players get the ball and can make things happen, even in much worse teams and environments than City.
Foden has only been able to showcase himself in the best club side ever assembled, and even in there he has never been a top 3 best player in the squad.
Foden certainly plays on the left sometimes, but I'd still give him a go in the middle before dropping him.
Hes definitely close to being dropped though
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I keep hearing from all the pundits that England have the momentum now and it's a big advantage. So Spain's last minute winner against Germany, France wining the penalty shoot out like England or Holland's comeback against Turkey, wont give them momentum too ? These pundits are a waste of time!
Do you think Gakpo is a better footballer than Mbappé? Considering he’s had a better tournament.
Sabitzer vs Bruno?
Mikautadze vs Kane?
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The difference is Mbappe has performed in a France shirt in the past. Foden has never done it in a England shirt.
Obviously not, but Foden was never the player the masses believe that he is. My argument isn’t just based on the Euros. Saka and Palmer are better players based on the whole of last season as well (and in Saka’s case, earlier seasons too)
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Agree to disagree.
England is the new Greece.
I certainly don't agree with that. If you are arguably the best player for the best team in the country/potentially Europe (which Foden has been this season), then you are obviously a top player.
Rashford is a very different type of player. Very good at his best, but simply doesn't have the consistency. More individualistic perhaps, which seems to be the trait that you are looking for.
Agreed. If you're putting money on a player to change a game for you out of those three, foden would be the last choice.
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