He should have been tried there in previous matches. It’s not exactly that we are stacked in that area.
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He should have been tried there in previous matches. It’s not exactly that we are stacked in that area.
Yeah should have been tried in previous matches but disappointing that a player of his talent won’t be going.
Expect he'll cut Ramsdale, Godfrey, Coady, Lingard, Watkins and Saka from the squad, and either Mings or White.
Aren't England going to be playing a back 4 in this tournament? Why is Coady going as he's useless whenever Wolves attempted a back 4 last season, car crash peformance at Anfield when they lost 4-0.
Think my issue with Southgate is he's going to start all of Maguire, Henderson, Sterling and Rashford v Croatia isn't he? I can see logic with Maguire as don't trust Stones with any of the other options but Henderson not played since early Feb so rushing yet another player back from serious injury which never works out well and Sterling and Rashford would just be reputation picks given both have been poor since January, Rashford ain't going to last the whole tournament either given he seems to be carrying about three seperate injuries so baffled if Greenwood is left out.
Will be one of those tournaments where England will have half a different 11 from first to final match, whenever that is.
Think my issue with Southgate is he's going to start all of Maguire, Henderson, Sterling and Rashford v Croatia isn't he? I can see logic with Maguire as don't trust Stones with any of the other options but Henderson not played since early Feb so rushing yet another player back from serious injury which never works out well and Sterling and Rashford would just be reputation picks given both have been poor since January, Rashford ain't going to last the whole tournament either given he seems to be carrying about three seperate injuries so baffled if Greenwood is left out.
Will be one of those tournaments where England will have half a different 11 from first to final match, whenever that is.
I don't think I've ever been as interested by the English squad/generation as I have now. Great young talents, can't wait to see how it shapes up. Gareth Southgate has no excuse for a poor outing at the Euro.
Not taking trent and Greenwood is a criminal. But then what else to expect from an incompetent manager.
I wouldn't take any no. 9 aside from Kane, Bamford would've been his ideal backup.
Just looked at all the groups, is there no seeding for this tournament? Just take a look at Group F 
I realise that neither JWP or TAA are going to be starters in a Southgate first XI however cannot understand not including either of them in the squad as they are the best set piece exponents that we have. When you look how many free kicks someone like Grealish could earn then who is going to take advantage of these situations without them two.
Does anyone believe England have a realistic chance of winning the tournament?
They were favourites a few weeks ago, but are now second favourites behind France.
They were favourites a few weeks ago, but are now second favourites behind France.
Germany pot 1. France pot 2. Portugal pot 3.... somehow. Those 3 alone show how absolutely shit their system is. Germany have been shit for 5 years but pot 1? France reached Euro finals and then won the world cup? Portugal won the last euros? Nothing. Apparently it was based purely on qualifiers.Just looked at all the groups, is there no seeding for this tournament? Just take a look at Group F
Yeah, makes sense too. England made it to SF relying on set pieces. Trippier all the way maybe.
Watkins is better than DCL, should be in the squad.
While I would take Trent and Greenwood, I don't think it is a 'criminal' decision to leave them at home at all. The options at right back are very strong and Trent is probably the weakest defensively and we are also stacked with good attacking wide options.
I would take Greenwood ahead of Lingard but a consideration to make is about the squad dynamic too. 3 players won't even be able to make the bench, so Southgate also has to consider who will be better placed sitting on the bench or stands, potentially all tournament.
I would take Greenwood ahead of Lingard but a consideration to make is about the squad dynamic too. 3 players won't even be able to make the bench, so Southgate also has to consider who will be better placed sitting on the bench or stands, potentially all tournament.
Most of those prospective managers are still very early in their career and apart from Gerrard have little or no experience of winning anything. Or playing tournament football.
Easily the most experienced is Dyche. Yes I accept he plays pretty negative football, but that is very much down to the standard of players Burnley can afford.
He has won nothing, but for Burnley, staying in the PL must be akin to winning every season.
He does however have to prove himself and has a strong squad with which to do that.
So let's back him and his team and hope they will be highly successful.
If Maguire is injured again then I think we'll switch to a back three so that explains Coady. Henderson will get the two warm up game to prove his fitness. I don't think he'll start Rashford but the rumours are that he will start Sterling, which I can't find a good reason for.
What???
On what basis is he better.
Different type of player. DCL is a genuine CF. Watkins is a has potential but yet to be proven.
If DCL is genuine CF then what is Watkins? Fake CF?
IMO Watkins runs the channels very well, works harder and links up play really well. DCL is better header of the ball and that's it. Watkins is better at everything else except strength and heading the ball.
If it's still touch and go with Maguire I'd rather he not join the party. I want him fully fit at the start of the season.
Would also prefer Rashford to take a break this summer, sort out the shoulder and heal up. But doubt that will happen ffs..
Would also prefer Rashford to take a break this summer, sort out the shoulder and heal up. But doubt that will happen ffs..
Of all the striking options you'd expect to be sat on the bench, to be brought on to get a goal late in a game, I'd comfortably have Greenwood front of the queue, he's done it enough times for us. He's just got a knack of doing it.
No. Not at all. But as I tried to mention, Watkins is a different type of striker and plays a different style.
Nothing wrong as a player but in my view not as good or effective as DCL.
The players England have, Watkins suits better. I'm not saying DCL isnt good, just that Watkins is better.
Would love to see Watkins playing for us.
I am reading all these posts that England have a great squad, but looking at it I got to say these people have got to be kidding themselves?
Why so?
There’s too many mediocre players. Now I want England to win it as much as anyone, and if anyone remembers World Cup 2018 you see how good it is for the nation as a whole when England do well, but it ain’t going to happen.
Wan-Bissaka as well. Gareth has his favourites.
Yeah agree on this, I bet Gareth doesn't.
England are, as ever, lop sided. There's some genuine European Championship winners quality players in there, and if everyone was fit England SHOULD be favourites.
If you went on pure talent with everyone playing at their best you could have:
Henderson
TAA-Maguire-Gomez-Shaw
Henderson-Rice
Sancho-Mount-Rashford
Kane
And that side could beat ANYONE. You could sit and argue about dozens of players -not- in that lineup. Foden, Sterling, Bellingham, wan-Bissaka, Calvert-Lewin, Stones. . . so the idea for me is that among the English footballers there's a potential side that could beat ANYONE. Southgate won't find it or pick it, unfortunately, so they'll fall short like they always do. But the talent is there for once.TAA-Maguire-Gomez-Shaw
Henderson-Rice
Sancho-Mount-Rashford
Kane
Baffled by this. We've probably the best collection of players in terms of ability since the 'golden generation'.
The Euro 2016 squad was awful in comparison. Forster, Hart, Heaton, Bertrand, Cahill, Clyne, Lallana etc..
None of Kane, Rashford, Foden, Grealish, Mount, Bellingham, Sancho, Stones, Shaw, Chilwell, James, Walker, Rice or Maguire are average.
Given neither will start the question is less about who is the better player between the two, but more about who is the better Kane replacement. DCL is a cleaner fit in that respect as a physical presence who can attack opportunities in the box. That said it depends on tactics and if Southgate wants to develop a contain-and-counter model then Watkins can offer more value in such a system.
Can't see how Trent AA gets in the England squad unless he goes as a wildcard attacker. I'd be leaving him at home along with Ramsdale, Mings, White, Ward-Prowse, Saka and Watkins
They'll as ussual win 2 matches draw 1.
Win 2 knockout round at most then probably out on qf or sf at best.
As a team nothing special, although individual wise would be enough to carry them halfway
Win 2 knockout round at most then probably out on qf or sf at best.
As a team nothing special, although individual wise would be enough to carry them halfway
Rumour has it Greenwood is injured anyway, so that will take that decision out of Southgate's hands if true. Otherwise he would surely have to take him as an option from the bench
If England are trailing and have to pump the ball into the box then DCL is better option,he is really good at winning headers and physical duels. If England wants a CF who runs the channels well and can link up well then Watkins is the player. Wouldn't trust either of them to finish one off chance though, Watkins finishing is bit poor.
They have a chance but there are other extremely talented squads in the competition. They are in the mix to do well though and depending on what happens to those other teams (injuries, suspensions, poor form) they could go far.
Too Many mediocre?
I mean we have okay CB but have the best RB's, Shaw and Chilwell have had very good seasons.
Foden, Grealish, Sancho, Mount, Greenwood are all more than mediocre
Kane is one of the best strikers in the world.
I don't know how you think thats average.
What was the point of bringing him back into the England squad to now dump him again. Wonder if it is to pick all the RB's?
You’re underrating DCLs linkup play massively. It’s one of the best things about his game. Watkins is just fortunate enough to be around better attacking players in that general area who play off his linkup compared to us having Richy and that’s it.