AWB and R.James. Trent will end up playing further up the pitch in the future and Walker is a pace merchant who gets caught out too often. AWB and James can both defend and attack and have potential on their sides, admittedly things to improve upon too.
England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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I reckon Walker will be playing as a right center back, so TAA and Trippier make a lot more sense as right wing back options than AWB or James for that matter although James can play both systems.
Actually i forgot about him.
Although i think Southgate will take a lot of fullbacks because he loves a back 3 and wingbacks.
I'd have AWB and then its a toss up between James and Walker. I like Walker's recovery pace, but James seems a little better going forward. I wouldn't take TAA because his actual defending isn't good enough imo. Trippier I haven't watched this year, but he's a pretty limited player in comparison to the others, he's steady but unspectacular.
I would leave out Ramsdale, White, Mings ( he won't), Lingard, JWP, Saka & Watkins, the only reason I am leaving in Alexander-Arnold is because with no JWP we don't really have any top drawer free kick takers. I realise that leaves us very light in the midfield options so would be very surprised if both of them miss out but couldn't find a way to drop any of the RB's
It's amazing how Liverpool managed to concede fewer goals than us this year, considering they had such a liability at right back while playing infants and midfielders at CB.
I get that we're United fans, but anyone suggesting Wan-Bissaka is a better right back than Alexander-Arnold needs to give their head a wobble. Trent is not as bad a defender as some of us like to pretend - nor is Wan-Bissaka as good a defender.
In a similar vein as Wan-Bissaka not being as poor an attacker as fans of other clubs like to pretend. We all love pointing fingers while doing the same shit ourselves.
I get that we're United fans, but anyone suggesting Wan-Bissaka is a better right back than Alexander-Arnold needs to give their head a wobble. Trent is not as bad a defender as some of us like to pretend - nor is Wan-Bissaka as good a defender.
In a similar vein as Wan-Bissaka not being as poor an attacker as fans of other clubs like to pretend. We all love pointing fingers while doing the same shit ourselves.
This.
He may not be a world beater, but has he ever put a foot wrong in an england shirt so far? You would think he has had howler after howler for england the way some are talking him down.
Why not go behind him and support him? I don't see a better keeper in this squad. (Henderson is definetly not the better choice than Pickford for this tournament).
I reckon JWP will stay in the squad and either Lingard or another forward will miss out (one of Greenwood or Sancho) other than that agreed
I would be happy if he didn't go. A summer off would be good for him. It would be even better if he went and Rashford stays, he needs to rest and heal.
I think Reece James should not be in the squad. He is not that good. If they play with wingbacks maybe, but I rather have TAA anyway.
If we end up 5 at the back then yeah, I would agree on your assesment, but if Harry is available then most things point to us continuing with the 4 at the back, although game situations can vary so both systems may indeed be needed, in which case I can atleast understand the AWB exclusion
Any of England's 4 right backs, for starters.
In terms of who Southgate drops, assuming everyone is fit, I'd imagine it will be:
I think it would be a big mistake if he leaves out Bellingham but given how he hardly used him in the most recent qualifiers, I think he will. I think the other players on the edge would be Greenwood and JWP. I'd be surprised if any different names were left out.
- Ramsdale
- TAA or James
- Godfrey or White (I think he may well drop both and keep Bellingham or Lingard)
- Lingard
- Bellingham
- Watkins
- Saka
I think it would be a big mistake if he leaves out Bellingham but given how he hardly used him in the most recent qualifiers, I think he will. I think the other players on the edge would be Greenwood and JWP. I'd be surprised if any different names were left out.
I think AWB is underrated and has had a good season. I don't think he should be going but I don't think he's far off and I do think he's had a better season than TAA.
Surprised that most people have Saka being left out, I think his versatility means he’s definitely going to be in the 26.
I’d say the 7 to miss out will be:
Ramsdale
TAA or James
Godfrey
White
JWP or Bellingham
Lingard
Watkins
I’d say the 7 to miss out will be:
Ramsdale
TAA or James
Godfrey
White
JWP or Bellingham
Lingard
Watkins
Imagine Fergie had plumped with Heinze over Evra because he was perceived to be the better defender, and ignored the massive upside youd get from Evra offensively
Incredibly, Rashford is already the 7th most senior member of that squad based on when he made his England debut. It’s such a relatively inexperienced team at international level.
Because AWB is known for having his strength in defensive 1-on-1s, he’s developed an unmerited reputation for being poor going forward because he’s not Trent. His numbers are sound in comparison to the England full backs not called Alexander-Arnold.
That's the nature of international football. It's rare you get a squad that's perfectly balanced all over. You have to play to your strengths.
It's a funny one. Statistics have him as the best RB this season and featuring in teams of the year.
I think it should have been TAA, Walker and AWB in an ideal scenario.
If you're playing back 5, Walker is your RCB and TAA can play RWB. If you want to play a back 4, Walker can play in most games, if it's some poor oppo or you're looking for a goal, TAA comes in and AWB when playing against the Mbappes and all.
I dont like Southgate's approach to big games, but when you think about it, defence is more important than attack if you want to win major tournaments. Most games in QFs, Semis and Finals are close affairs and you can't afford to have TAA as the RB or even James in a back 4 for that matter.
AWB offers a different skillset, a useful skillset which might have been important in the latter stages of the competition
No players over the age of 30.
This Kalvin Phillips guy is totally overrated. I saw the match against Albania (who are quite poor), and all he did was pass the ball backwards or sideways.
Kane can take corners.
Is it though?
that’s surprising. Albeit, I can’t think of anyone over 30 off the top of my head that should be in the squad.
is Henderson the oldest player?
He's laughing at being included
Based on international caps hes 5th
Stirling 61... 26 years old
Walker 55... 30 years old
Kane 53... 27 years old
Stones 42... 26 years old
Rashford 40... 23 years old
And with so many right backs its possible Walker misses out
Him and Walker I think.
I cannot see Walker missing out. He's way too flexible.
State of the CH choices!
Waistcoat Man is basically praying Maguire and Stones are fit.
Waistcoat Man is basically praying Maguire and Stones are fit.
Funny how English midfield has gone downhill. From Scholes, Gerrard Lempard to these nubs. Imagine Scholes in this midfield.
Only real surprise is no Ings and maybe Dier. Not because I think the latter deserves to be in the squad but because I thought he was a Southgate favourite. Apart from that it's pretty close to how I thought it would look (Obviously numbers will be narrowed down soon)
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No Its actually Kyle walker but only a few weeks older than Henderson (both are 30 now) but will be 31 by the time the tournament finishes ... walker 28 may Henderson 17 June
And what did that midfield do for England?
Henderson had got 50+?
And I thought it was only me who liked Pickford in goal.
Yes he makes the odd mistake. But that is normally coming out too much.
Very good shot stopper and good with his feet.
With Pope unfortunately out, he should be number one.
Seriously weak selection of keepers. Two relegated keepers, one who is only semi first choice and Pickford.
This was during the so called golden generation.
Technically, Scholes was easily the best, but due to the reliance of too rigid a 442, Scholes was almost always out of position.
And England won nothing.
Surprised to see 4 RB included (5 if you include Godfrey who can play across the back line) and none of them being AWB.
While I understand the arguments in selecting some of the others, I still think AWB outshines alot of the others with his one on one and defensive qualities.
I know he has his limitations (of which he has addressed and improved in alot of areas) but you cannot deny he is one of the best defenders 1v1 in the world.
I'm sure if Southgate was to ask the forwards/wingers which player they'd least like to face in that position the majority would say AWB or Walker. Not TAA, Trippier or James.
I personally find it quite insulting to AWB the fact that he keeps getting overlooked. Especially when you consider the inclusions of Henderson/Maguire/Shaw/Greenwood/Rashford/Lingard. Surely you'd want players who have a good understanding of eachother too.
While I understand the arguments in selecting some of the others, I still think AWB outshines alot of the others with his one on one and defensive qualities.
I know he has his limitations (of which he has addressed and improved in alot of areas) but you cannot deny he is one of the best defenders 1v1 in the world.
I'm sure if Southgate was to ask the forwards/wingers which player they'd least like to face in that position the majority would say AWB or Walker. Not TAA, Trippier or James.
I personally find it quite insulting to AWB the fact that he keeps getting overlooked. Especially when you consider the inclusions of Henderson/Maguire/Shaw/Greenwood/Rashford/Lingard. Surely you'd want players who have a good understanding of eachother too.
It lacks depth but I think Bellingham and Rice are pretty good young prospects for the future and would complement each other well if we were to play a double pivot.
Anyone think it could be Southgates last tournament? Then again who could england go for?