They are already through.
England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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They are already through.
Southgate's lack of tactical acumen is letting England down. When things aren't working, he's really poor at adjusting the system or changing the game from the bench. Substitutions tonight were obviously a case of "throw him on and hope he can do something" - totally ill-thought-out.
Yeah, I don’t think going from not starting him to not starting him does much to help you out though.
No chance. No team with 4 points is being dumped out.
Southgate should switch it up next game. Start Bellingham, Grealish, Sancho, and Trippier
Theyre already through basically, you aren't going to get knocked out with 4 points.
On goal difference you can be.
What if three teams have 4 points ?
They can go through as best 3rd place team.
3rd place teams can go through it have enough points.
Isn’t that almost impossible with four points now?
He definitely told the full backs to be cautious. Shaw was far far deeper than he plays for United.
Only four of them. It isn't guaranteed
Could always fluke it. I get your point but meeting Sweden is a far easier game for the next round and I'm not sure I fancy England to beat Portugal or Germany if they win this group by beating the Czech republic.
Kane looked like he could barely move.
Sterling sees the pass but then decides he's going to try and wriggle through 3 defenders on his own.
Two defensive midfielders, with a huge gap between the sitting two and the front four, isn't going to have much joy against a back 5.
And generally speaking, 4-2-3-1 with a defensive 2 is the dourest formation in football.
Sterling sees the pass but then decides he's going to try and wriggle through 3 defenders on his own.
Two defensive midfielders, with a huge gap between the sitting two and the front four, isn't going to have much joy against a back 5.
And generally speaking, 4-2-3-1 with a defensive 2 is the dourest formation in football.
I didn't know that.
Absolutely
Yes I know that’s why I said you have to have enough points.
It’s absolutely stupid in my opinion.
Croatia is playing Scotland so they can't finish below 3rd. And there won't be more than 4 teams on 4 points who finish 3rd.
Yeah. I'm guessing it is determined by goals difference after that, though.
We only have 1.
Rooney
Owen
Lampard
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
J Cole
Or
Gazza
Mcmanaman
Shearer
Sheringham
Fowler
Cole
Les Ferdinand
These sets of players were better, and had a better defence behind them. Let's stop over hyping these current players. They have achieved nothing yet.
England really like having average managers, he needs to do better with the squad he has.
Is it a case of Southgate not knowing his best eleven, or thinking he does and having it wrong? I’d say it’s the later, I can’t see many changes going into the last match.
Unless they have a play-off or something. But how you can have play-off if 3 teams have the same points ? Seems like a rule favouring the big sides.
I think the good old goal difference should be used.
England were so underwhelming.
Yet another tournament where they flatter to deceive.
Sure England will qualify (might even top the group), but they're so dull and uninspiring.
Southgate
Yet another tournament where they flatter to deceive.
Sure England will qualify (might even top the group), but they're so dull and uninspiring.
Southgate
Why do I get the feeling Gareth could put any side out there and they'll still play this dour boring tripe.
Yeah, I just cant' see this English side winning against any of the top NTs, let alone being second-favourites after France.
If they get Portugal or Germany it's game over
If they get Portugal or Germany it's game over
Should have stuck to the same format as previously.
First Modric and then Gilmour.
We can't keep this midfield. The aforementioned two have controlled the midfield against us and it's going to cost us. We need to play two of Grealish/Foden/Mount centrally because they'll have the impact for us that those players had for Croatia and Scotland.
We can't keep this midfield. The aforementioned two have controlled the midfield against us and it's going to cost us. We need to play two of Grealish/Foden/Mount centrally because they'll have the impact for us that those players had for Croatia and Scotland.
Ugh souness is unbearable
No wonder Gaz Nev was such a shit manager, Souness just called it, you can’t have two shite defensive midfielders and expect to play good football.
True, but that first group of players may all be great names, but especially in finals, most of them were piss poor in an England jersey. ALso its too early to judge a lot of this side as they are so young....but you are right, havent achieved diddly for ENgland yet most of them
And the OTT praise after the Croatia game. The praise the likes of Rio,Neville, Lampard were throwing at this team.
Why do they do this?
Why do they do this?
I agree and he also needs to consider dropping Kane who looks miles off the pace. Tonight’s performance could be a blessing in disguise of it makes him change his tactics and starting eleven, not going to hold my breath though.
He’s annoyingly bang on.
So croatia or scotland can also go through even if one of them wins and england loses its game.
Not comparing Southgate to Solskjaer but much of the poor points being raised are very similar when comprehensively observing United. Midfield that is set up to be conservative vs creative. Team looks like a bunch of individuals, poor build up play, expecting substitutes to make a difference individually compared to tactically.