Yeah nobody wants that but Southgate looks clueless out there with this system.
England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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Shaw looks decent to be fair.
Mount the only one that looks like going anything
Mount really is excellent.
The only midfielder on the pitch who looks likely to create anything
The only midfielder on the pitch who looks likely to create anything
I'm puzzled, came on here at half-time expecting to read pages and pages of deep discussion about the (poor) first half, but actually there were like 35 posts, that is like less than one a minute?
Do Man Utd. fans not care that much about England?
Do Man Utd. fans not care that much about England?
Bellingham should be playing in that midfield
It's fine him being an impact sub, but he's not at the level yet where he should be starting. He's a moments player for City with a world class supporting cast. He's being asked to be something he isn't for England and what's worse, is that there are 3 players on the wings (and others who are better in midfield) who are just straight up better players than him as of now, based on this past season, and especially based on Fodens form these 2 games. It's fine if there's little depth so you play a promising player and hope he comes up with a moment. Southgate already benched better players for him though which is the problem. If you want scorers, Rashford and Sterling are better. Creators, Sancho and Grealish are better. He shouldn't be ahead of them. Southgate seems to have planted his flag on him but it'll cost him.
Not Henderson?
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That’s simply not true. Mount created more than him during the season. Only reason he isn’t up there for assists is.. Werner..
It is a bit like watching United with the two DMs and the reliance on a bit of magic. Relative to its talent this team should be playing a lot better.
Why is there only two substitutes, and why Kane???
jesus, Southgate is an idiot….
jesus, Southgate is an idiot….
The biggest thing holding England back is the coach, he might well be able to make everyone feel happy and part of a group but he seems so limited in his coaching and tactics.
Scotland have had the better chances and been the better team overall.
This Gareth dude playing 2 useless on the ball DM's vs fecking Scotland is unreal.
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I really thought England would at least wait for the KO round before getting shown up. Is Southgate's contract covering the WC too ?
And subbing your best player in the box? Best aerial threat in front of goal in Kane? Really stupid!
Shit manager. What a waste of talent.
Two main lessons to learn from today:
1) The Kane, Sterling, Foden front line isn't functioning. You have Grealish, Rashford and Sancho sitting on your bench. Change it up.
2) Rice is a fine DM. Phillips is a fine DM. But playing two DMs in your midfield is insanely negative.
1) The Kane, Sterling, Foden front line isn't functioning. You have Grealish, Rashford and Sancho sitting on your bench. Change it up.
2) Rice is a fine DM. Phillips is a fine DM. But playing two DMs in your midfield is insanely negative.
Southgate with this generation. Sigh.
Sounds familiar.
Genuinely one of the worst performances from England at a tournament I've seen. With this level of talent unforgivably bad. Such a shame we've got Gareth Southgate in charge.
It's all a bit predictable where this is heading.
It's all a bit predictable where this is heading.
feck me that was a dreadful and I'm a neutral
Poor in the first game and even worse tonight.
The performances remind me so much of United at times. 2 holding midfielders with slow zombie mode passing.
Dog shit.
The performances remind me so much of United at times. 2 holding midfielders with slow zombie mode passing.
Dog shit.
Sterling, Kane and Rashford shouldn't be near the starting XI on form.
Rather see Grealish and Sancho up top right now, and try different strikers.
Rather see Grealish and Sancho up top right now, and try different strikers.
Scotland are a terrible team, forget its Scotland, look at the players vs ours. Pitiful shameful performance.
Huh? Based on what? Sancho has more key passes per 90, more xA per 90, more progressive passes per 90, more passes into the penalty area per 90, more shot creating actions per 90... he's literally one of the very best creators in Europe.
That was dreadful, especially the second half.
Grealish, Bellingham and Sancho should be starting for us. I'd personally drop Declan Rice and pair Kalvin Phillips with Bellingham in the next game.
Very strange game from England. Said months ago Rice Phillips was a bad idea. It was especially a bad idea for these winnable group games. Did either of those two manage to take less than 5 touches or find a forwards pass?
Kane looks horrendous at the moment, not a clue what is going on there. Looks bereft of physical presence. I did not like Rashford coming on down the middle, how many times do we have to see Rashford there to know it's a poor idea. I would opt for DCL, especially against a deep defence, what use is Rashford?! That was very naive.
Apart from that it was simply a shocking performance. The rest of it was ok as far as personnel but the actual performance levels and fluidity, passing etc were diabolical.
Shaw did well, from a Utd point of view. One of England's better players tonight.
Kane looks horrendous at the moment, not a clue what is going on there. Looks bereft of physical presence. I did not like Rashford coming on down the middle, how many times do we have to see Rashford there to know it's a poor idea. I would opt for DCL, especially against a deep defence, what use is Rashford?! That was very naive.
Apart from that it was simply a shocking performance. The rest of it was ok as far as personnel but the actual performance levels and fluidity, passing etc were diabolical.
Shaw did well, from a Utd point of view. One of England's better players tonight.
Kane and Sterling took from our team. We had Mount, Grealish and Foden trying to linkup play, and be creative and every time I saw it reach one of those 2 it ended.
Rashford might as well have not been there, however he didn't have long to get into the game.
Rashford might as well have not been there, however he didn't have long to get into the game.
Anyone who still even thinks about playing Rashford as a striker in 2021 is utterly clueless.
shit manager. Has all the offensive talent you could ask for at his disposal and serves up that crap, it's actually incredible. Sancho not playing a single minute is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in a very long time.
McTom was very good tonight.
I agree he shouldn't be starting on the wings. However, centrally, I think he's definitely worthy of starting. He may not score and create, but his game allows the teams general play to excel.
Southgate got it all wrong, from the starting eleven through to the tactics. The players lacked the proper motivation and energy levels, too. It's not nearly good enough considering the talent in the squad.