this is a team that can do some work, up to southgate now...
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England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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With all the rumours last night and this morning that Trent was out, and then being in, do we reckon he was put in when Greenwood pulled out?
Everyone is calling it the TAA decision but that’s stupid, he’s a very good player. Having Trippier in there is just stunningly incompetent, he’s worse than the other 4 English rightbacks.
I don’t see it with that team. Nowhere near enough pace and threat in behind.
Rice, Phillips, Henderson and Bellingham are all ahead. Not having JWP as a 5th choice defensive midfielder isn’t the end of the world.Even though he hasn't played there at all?
He had to include TTA to avoid the wrath of the Liverpool media.
To be fair, several of the players listed as forwards play in midfield. Foden, Sancho, Saka and Grealish could all conceivably be considered midfielders too. Also, Southgate mentioned he would consider TAA in midfield so I think we have plenty of cover there
What surpirises me is Watkins missing out with only 2 other strikers in the squad in Kane and DCL. If one of them gets injured, we are severely lacking in options up top
Nonsense, Tripper has been in great form this season for Athletico and deserves his place.
Because all the reports over the last week or so were TAA is set to miss out. He's shit the bed after the backlash imo.
And Trippier has been excellent for Atletico.
Doesn’t change the fact he’s the 5th best RB in this country on ability.
Southgate says Lingard starts in the friendly tomorrow yet can't get in the 26 man squad 
What if he has a blinder?
What if he has a blinder?What's this based on?
Why's he involved ?Southgate says Lingard starts in the friendly tomorrow yet can't get in the 26 man squad
Oh, Gareth.
God that’s a complete jokeSouthgate says Lingard starts in the friendly tomorrow yet can't get in the 26 man squad
The RBs are fairly versatile and Watkins isn't. I do think it's a bit silly but it's not like it's preventing something that should definitely go.
Possibly, the BBC indicated that Greenwood was set to be part of the 26 man squad.
The 6 had the option to go home but decided to stay and can be involved in the 2 friendlies. Then said Jesse starts. Madness.
Gareth is a fecking arsehole. He's not doing TAA any favours. He's saying I don't want to take you but oh alright then, I'd better take you. I'm definitely not scouser first, England second. I'm fecking England nowhere while it's run like a White Old Boys club.
TAA is not physically tired, he is mentally gone. Like Sadio. TAA needs to be on a beach thinking of nothing. Not being on someone's leash for another couple of weeks.
And do you actually think TAA will lose confidence because of being dropped by a nomark when Klopp is personally looking out for him? You should watch Klopp interviews more.
He’s not on form though that’s why he’s in.
Southgate says Lingard starts in the friendly tomorrow yet can't get in the 26 man squad
I don't think 3 at the back is negative at all. It all depends on how we play it.
Belgium, who are ranked number 1 in the world, also play with three at the back. We've seen Chelsea win the CL with it.
Does it have to exhilarating football? No! It's a tournament and ultimately, it'll be about finding the right balance.
I'm gonna be rooting for England unless Southgate makes some idiotic decisions, like letting Shaw rot on the bench in favour of Chilwell
He’s better than Phillips and has been solid this season. We are short of midfielders so he should have been in for that reason.
Genuine question... why no John Stones?
Worried about the lack of cover at right back
Chilwell will be first choice in my opinion.I'm gonna be rooting for England unless Southgate makes some idiotic decisions, like letting Shaw rot on the bench in favour of Chilwell
Probably not but the fact that he's left-footed goes in his favour.
As for Saka, he's had a good season for a poor Arsenal side. He's young and versatile. He'll be able to play LB, LWB, LW and RW if needed.
He’s in.
Hardly.
Trent has finished the season well, was the best RB in the country last season and has proven his class.
Walker has just won the league and been to a champions league final and played very well.
James has just come off a great season and won a champions league final as MOTM.
Tripper has had an okay season in a nice sunny spain, where the standard of the league is probably at its weakest level in two decades. How is he getting in above the three above?
Ah ok. Missed that. Apologies
If trent plays and fecks up now, all hell will break loose.
If he doesn't play, then southgate will forever be accused of taking him just because he'd get a backlash if he didn't.
The worst scenario would be trent screws up in defence, and a couple of the midfielders get injuries.
So I'm now assuming that is what is coming,
If he doesn't play, then southgate will forever be accused of taking him just because he'd get a backlash if he didn't.
The worst scenario would be trent screws up in defence, and a couple of the midfielders get injuries.
So I'm now assuming that is what is coming,
Thing is, Mings is probably the only aggressive CB we have. If the ball's in the air waiting to be won, he'll go for it.
Likely stamping and elbowing his way for it, mind.
Likely stamping and elbowing his way for it, mind.
So you'd play TAA in a midfield 2? good luck with that.
Lingard offers us squad squad depth in attacking midfield whilst JWP central.
You cant just put a player in midfield and expect him to perform at that level, TAA isn't and never was a midfielder.
Id understand if the plan was to play 5 at the back because Walker/Trippier can play that third CB spot and go forward but everything indicates 4 at the back and there's no reason to take 4 rb's.
Can dress it up however you want but there is never any justification for taking 4 right backs to a major tournament, forget versatility, pick your best 26.
Might as well have taken AWB at this point. 3 extra slots and uses two of them on right backs...ah well. If it's a case of taking Greenwood's place, then it might as well have been TAA.... Watkins wasn't getting game time.
What's happened to Stones? Injured? Four right backs is nuts, I knew Southgate would screw it up.
Edit: He's in my bad.
Edit: He's in my bad.
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I guess that makes sense, but I'm also biased against Mings because he comes across as a huge thug to me.
That'll anger me. No way Shaw should be behind him in the pecking order when he's arguably the the best LB on the whole continent.
Apparently he's starting Lingard in the next friendly though?? absolutely clueless
Coady is the bigger issue, I think. He's been in poor form this season.
This. It makes zero sense.