India are so bad at reviews. Impact was miles outside off stump and yet they reviewed.
England Cricket 2016/17 - Bangladesh, India & West Indies (ODI's only)
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An overly defensive approach cost England the first test IMHO. Cook should have attacked the Indian bowlers to try and force a result. Instead they played slowly and ran out of time to bowl India out.
Darren Lehmann is no different. Maybe it's an Aussie thing. The manner of 85 all out said everything about Lehmann, sorry ''Boof's'' shortcoming as a coach.
I hate the "Play your natural game" bs that everyone says. There's a select few players who you could apply that to but for te rest it's just an excuse to throw your wicket away.
Could be worse though. Like England have been using their reviews
Bye bye Broad
Not sure how England manage to make getting smashed seem to easy. Even when they are good.
Can't believe England couldn't stay on this pitch for one day. Pure comedy.4-fecking-0, what a shame. England started the series well but totally lost the plot. Poor team selection throughout.
Too easy
Is this the first time a team has lost by more than an innings, despite scoring 450+ in the first innings?
Is this the first time a team has lost by more than an innings, despite scoring 450+ in the first innings?
Jadeja finishes with 7 wickets in the innings, England lose by an innings and some 75 runs
Too easy
Is this the first time a team has lost by more than an innings, despite scoring 450+ in the first innings?
They've almost scored 700 runs combined this match and still lost by an innings
Pitch was actually quite decent. More like a fourth day Indian pitch in most places. England showed a complete lack of application today.
England, by contrast, have slumped like a drunk with sunstroke, defeated for the eighth time in Tests this year - equalling their worst.
Could be worse though. Like England have been using their reviews
I'd forgotten that.I think Jadeja should be MOTM but unfortunately cricket being what it is, Karun Nair will get it.
Eight test defeats in one year. Wow.
How do you lose by an innings after scoring close to 500 in the first innings?
This was always going to happen after England's coward declaration in the first test. They had the opportunity to set the benchmark early on but preferred to play for a draw. No way back when you have that kind of mentality against a brutal home team.
This was always going to happen after England's coward declaration in the first test. They had the opportunity to set the benchmark early on but preferred to play for a draw. No way back when you have that kind of mentality against a brutal home team.
Seven in the second half of the year. England must be fed up with the Asian teams.
The Poms are hilarious
England have played poorly but that was not a coward declaration. The pitch was still good to bat on and they wanted to not lose the first test. India could have easily made those runs had they had time.
The Poms are hilarious
We're trying to match the Aussies.
I hope Lehmann and co have been brainstorming ideas on how Australia can give themselves the best opportunity being successful in India early next year. Take the two best spinners, drop Wade and make sure your batsmen are prepared to dig in, bat time and frustrate the Indian bowlers.
How do you go from 102/0 at lunch to 207/10 with 45 minutes still to play?
On an absolute road of a wicket no less. Embarrassing.
Popping onto this thread for my first time in ages to comment on what was even by our standards, a truly spectacular defeat.
A Christmas tradition.
A Christmas tradition.
England's mentality is so fragile. Unbelievable that we managed to win this.
India are ruthless these days. More so than they were under Dhoni.
What's the point of sacking Cook, as if that will achieve / mean anything We're always complete garbage in Asia.
We're always complete garbage in Asia.England
They were at 192/4 too.
Kohli's captaincy has worked so far. Tough tests to come ahead. He'll be India's best captain if he gets an away series win in Australia, England, or South Africa under his belt.
More than captaincy I think it's the management change which worked well. Bangar and Kumble have ensured that Ashwin and Jadeja have found a new level (batting and bowling) and they find talented youngsters (like Karun, Jayant etc.) having actually watched domestic. Players who can actually play test cricket rather than guys like raina and Rohit Sharma who are better equipped for LOI.
A young keeper is probably the next requirement. I'm not completely sold on Parthiv or Saha.
Yeah wasting wickets really. Rashid, Ali and all had no reason to be rash
Exactly and failures for Vijay Kohli Pujara and Ashwin (with the ball at least) and Rahane's absence means 5 of our best players actually were out of the game in their strengths.
Between hosting Aus in 2013 and NZ in 2016, India had only two series at home - WI in 2013 (Sachin's farewell) and SA in 2015. They've toured NZ, Australia, England, Bangladesh, West Indies, South Africa and Sri Lanka during this period. This sequence of 13 home tests (3x NZ, 5x Eng, 1x B'desh, 4x Aus) is to balance the away tours and also an initial experiment by BCCI of having an Indian season going similar to how Australia and England host home series traditionally.
Previous highest score in first innings before losing a match by innings is 432 by England at Oval in 2001 Ashes. This is a new record as per cricinfo.Is this the first time a team has lost by more than an innings, despite scoring 450+ in the first innings?
Oh christ.. I knew we would lose but not like this, left it with Root and Moeen at the crease. What on earth happened?
Sweet revenge! 
So this Leach guy everyone was banging on about has a dodgy action which is why he wasn't picked.