Elon Musk | Doer of things on X and sad little man

Haven't they been basically allowing bots to work in their favour in terms of content promotion etc.? I think it's a bit more than something that is just happening on the platform.

It's not just happening but it's a symptom of the over commercialisation and general lack of care and quality control in big tech companies who only care about the bottom line and keeping shareholders happy, now they know they have enough customers locked in. Same reason Google/Amazon/Facebook have all got more and more shite to use over the last several years.
 


Now strip away anything positive young Anakin says in that vid and focus on the game part. He's been gaming any system he can to make money his whole life and he's about to make an absolute killing with Musk.

How does anyone overshadow the president of the US? Honest question. Besides, Musk looks like he's born to play the role of a sycophant to someone like Trump, and he's shown the awareness up until now to stay in his lane; he'll remain his perfectly odd self and reap a huge dividend from it, imo.

Don't know about your last sentence either. X is an amazing vehicle and can be used in so many ways throughout the term Trump is about to serve.

In closing, I don't see why either will bite the hand that can further their respective ambition. They're going to make a lot of money together and I don't believe Trump has the whimsy you do when it comes to making money, I also don't think Musk is stupid enough to jeopardise something he has put so much time and money into acquiring (the newfound seat of power).

A couple of years ago before Musk derailed completely, I was at a tradefair and listened to the keynote about entrepreneurship by some Silicon Valley guy whose name I forgot. He actually knew Musk in person and said that founding and developing businesses was like a game to him. According to him, he only cared about money in so far as it enables him to do what he loves. If he lost it, the primary concern would be that he couldn't start another venture, not that he would miss the luxury and comfort.

From that perspective, I think those characters are more about achievements than wealth. Trump didn't need to run for president to begin with, he only did so this time around because of the crimes he committed while in office. They're in pursue of power and legacy. And in that sense, it is also worth mentioning that personalities can change the longer you remain in an echochamber filled with yes sayers. I think that definitely happened to both of them, the same way it happened to Putin and affected his judgment. Humans don't fare well when their opinions aren't challenged and narcissistic character traits flourish under such circumstances.

And that's why I think that they will inevitably clash as well. By all accounts, Trump reacts pretty badly to people who tell him unpleasant truths and he doesn't like to share the limelight. Meanwhile, Musk will clash with Trump's erratic decision making and short term orientation. Two personalities like this won't get along forever, in my humble opinion.
 
Please mods, this cannot be allowed here. For gods sake, this is not right. I know this poster has a longstanding history here, but this is not right.
He's only long-standing because he lost the last round of musical chairs and refuses to admit that he's a failure.
 
To be fair to Musk a lot of what is making Twitter so shit (bot replies etc) is part of a general theme of enshitification, which is affecting basically all the big tech companies these days. Have you seen the fecking state of Linkedin recently?!?

I think he only deserves to be personally responsible for the whole fascism thing.
Not really. Without the braindead twitter blue amplification, vast majority of those replies would never be seen by another human and it was a massive part of his pitch while buying twitter that he was going to solve the botting problem on twitter.
He absolutely should be held personally responsible for that bullshit.
 
Shame it couldn't have landed on Musk and Trump. Another impressive launch though, imagine testing data was more beneficial than risking the landing pad if things weren't perfect.
 
To be fair to Musk a lot of what is making Twitter so shit (bot replies etc) is part of a general theme of enshitification, which is affecting basically all the big tech companies these days. Have you seen the fecking state of Linkedin recently?!?

I think he only deserves to be personally responsible for the whole fascism thing.

they were alwasy there, but they clog the top of the replies now because of the paid bluecheck system and the reply priority they get, which is absolutely musk's idea.
 
A couple of years ago before Musk derailed completely, I was at a tradefair and listened to the keynote about entrepreneurship by some Silicon Valley guy whose name I forgot. He actually knew Musk in person and said that founding and developing businesses was like a game to him. According to him, he only cared about money in so far as it enables him to do what he loves. If he lost it, the primary concern would be that he couldn't start another venture, not that he would miss the luxury and comfort.

From that perspective, I think those characters are more about achievements than wealth. Trump didn't need to run for president to begin with, he only did so this time around because of the crimes he committed while in office. They're in pursue of power and legacy. And in that sense, it is also worth mentioning that personalities can change the longer you remain in an echochamber filled with yes sayers. I think that definitely happened to both of them, the same way it happened to Putin and affected his judgment. Humans don't fare well when their opinions aren't challenged and narcissistic character traits flourish under such circumstances.

And that's why I think that they will inevitably clash as well. By all accounts, Trump reacts pretty badly to people who tell him unpleasant truths and he doesn't like to share the limelight. Meanwhile, Musk will clash with Trump's erratic decision making and short term orientation. Two personalities like this won't get along forever, in my humble opinion.
They only have to get along for a few years, and once the furore dies down, begin a conceivably normal working relationship where what needs to executed/pushed through is done so succinctly and without much fuss.

Musk is a sycophant; he is less - rather than more - likely to play his role than act out. Trump will give him more OK’s than he’s ever had, and in accordance with your post, that would be enough to keep Musk happy. In return, Trump makes a stack of cash.

If I wasn’t clear, I don’t believe money is the motivation for Musk, but it will be a byproduct of the seat of power he now holds. Trump, it’s all about the money for, even before ego, in my opinion.
 
They only have to get along for a few years, and once the furore dies down, begin a conceivably normal working relationship where what needs to executed/pushed through is done so succinctly and without much fuss.

Musk is a sycophant; he is less - rather than more - likely to play his role than act out. Trump will give him more OK’s than he’s ever had, and in accordance with your post, that would be enough to keep Musk happy. In return, Trump makes a stack of cash.

If I wasn’t clear, I don’t believe money is the motivation for Musk, but it will be a byproduct of the seat of power he now holds. Trump, it’s all about the money for, even before ego, in my opinion.

If it was all about money for Trump, he wouldn't have run for president to begin with. He could have quietly lived his billionaire lifestyle and watched his fortune grow. But in the end, it doesn't really matter. I just don't think these two personalities will go along well, especially not in times of crisis.

By all accounts, Trump has clashed with everyone who told him unpleasant truths in the past. He's constantly surrounded himself with yes sayers. Those who turned on him report that his inner circle is a complete echo chamber in which lies and false narratives are treated as facts and nobody is allowed to challenge them. And while you can a lot of things about Musk, he's not somebody who keeps his opinion to himself. If he has a vision, he follows through with it relentlessly and has frequently followed the principle of "it has to hurt before it gets better" while Trump has no patience for long term plans.

Take Musk's planned reforms of US authorities for example. Such changes will always be met with resistance and criticism, even if they happen in a less drastic fashion in less troubled times with a less controverse person overseeing them since humans generally react allergic to change. If Musk becomes the focus of heavy public criticism, possibly even by people who are important to Trump, then I simply can't imagine that he backs him in any meaningful way because Trump is an opportunist while Musk, however delusional he might have become, is on a mission to improve something of significance. And when Trump tries to talk or even force Musk into something that he isn't convinced of, which is likely going to happen, it'll get ugly.
 
But serious question, in what sense is he a loser?
The Superbowl story is a great example of why he's a loser:
"He and President Biden both posted their support for the Philadelphia Eagles, but the president's post had 29 million views compared to Musk's 8.4 million, despite Biden having considerably fewer followers on the social media site. Furious, Musk insisted that his engineers investigate the reason behind Biden's tweet outperforming his own. On a Sunday night, he left the game early to return by plane to his San Francisco office, where scores of staff members had been called in to meet him, reported The NY Times. "
 
But serious question, in what sense is he a loser?
Depends on how you personally define "winning and losing" in life. To conduct yourself in a respectful and genuine fashion is, in my opinion winning. Today's right wing movers and shakers deem that to be losing.
The opportunity to push forward science and technology should carry with it a responsibility to some ethical behavior. Buying Twitter and turning in to the shithole it has become and push a neckbeard agenda is a fecking huge X over anyone's character. And all the money in the galaxy doesn't save you from being deemed an absolute cnut when you conduct yourself like what Musk has done. But each to their own. Everyone with wealth and power is fair game.
 
But serious question, in what sense is he a loser?
From what I understand
- he supports, amplifies and enables bigotry, sexism, racism, misinformation and other degenerate values through twitter, offering up a rapist potus all his support too.
- He says his son died just because he has a trasgender daughter. She’s spoken about his transphobia and how badly he treated her


I am sure there’s loads more to add to the above from people in the US closer to local issues but my personal take is this - that success / winning / losing is not just about one’s career or wealth you’ve accumulated but also your conduct, integrity, the relationships you’ve forged, the lives you’ve touched, the joy you’ve spread, and so on. Trump is the currently most powerful man on the planet but he’s also a vile piece of shit that I’d happily consider a complete loser.
 
Few things scream winner as much as sitting on twitter all day making political takes straight from youtube comments.
 
But serious question, in what sense is he a loser?
He's morally and ethically bankrupt, spreading racist, sexist and other gross types of nonsense in posts he knows are disinformation, to cozy up to MAGA to help his economic prospects and political power. Mostly he retweets Russian propaganda, we learned recently, which is aiming to weaken the country, our human rights.

He says Harris's famous supporters are Diddy's accomplices while he's the one who had "Kung Fu" practice with Gislaine Maxwell, and Trump was Epstein's best friend.
 
He is probably becoming the most powerful person in the planet.
Let’s not go that far. He’s still Trump’s bitch in the governmental scheme of things. The most powerful people in the world will always be heads of state imo.