Elon Musk | Doer of things on X and sad little man

It's X. It doesn't matter what the tweet is about, the replies are going to be awful. Just don't use X, or at least don't read replies.
I use it for work tbf. I'm on Bluesky as well and folks from my work Twitter are transitioning in dribs and drabs but it remains a regrettable necessity for now. That said, not reading replies is a good shout.
 
Trump will get tired of him eventually
Trump has never in his life got tired of making money, and that is what he stands to do a lot of whilst in cahoots with Musk.

This "partnership" is so mutually beneficial that it is sickening and it will be watertight because they both bring what they other needs/seeks to the table. They are also both going to get richer and richer off the back of it.
 
Trump has never in his life got tired of making money, and that is what he stands to do a lot of whilst in cahoots with Musk.

This "partnership" is so mutually beneficial that it is sickening and it will be watertight because they both bring what they other needs/seeks to the table. They are also both going to get richer and richer off the back of it.
Trump is also a huge narcissist and egomaniac. If he feels Elon is overshadowing him or gaining more from the partnership, it could go south very quickly. Trump is the one with the real power in that relationship.
 
Trump is also a huge narcissist and egomaniac. If he feels Elon is overshadowing him or gaining more from the partnership, it could go south very quickly. Trump is the one with the real power in that relationship.

Musk will have access to all Trumps DMs, he could have dirt on him.
 
Musk will have access to all Trumps DMs, he could have dirt on him.
Trump is already covered in all the worst kinds of dirt, and it has never mattered one bit. Do you honestly think Elon could release anything that would change people's perception of Trump? He'd simply go "Elon has AI generated this", and his base would believe him. Trump is the president elect, and the Republican party answers to him. Elon is just a lackey.
 
Trump is already covered in all the worst kinds of dirt, and it has never mattered one bit. Do you honestly think Elon could release anything that would change people's perception of Trump? He'd simply go "Elon has AI generated this", and his base would believe him. Trump is the president elect, and the Republican party answers to him. Elon is just a lackey.

Most likely true, but nothing would shock me anymore.
 
Trump is already covered in all the worst kinds of dirt, and it has never mattered one bit. Do you honestly think Elon could release anything that would change people's perception of Trump? He'd simply go "Elon has AI generated this", and his base would believe him. Trump is the president elect, and the Republican party answers to him. Elon is just a lackey.

Sneaky feeling that Musk will play No 2 to Trump then have his own puppet president under his complete control in 2028.
 
Most likely true, but nothing would shock me anymore.
Yeah, agree on that. No-one can predict how the next four years will turn out, but I just feel like Trump has a firm grasp on power now, with him being elected and surrounded by loyalists.
Sneaky feeling that Musk will play No 2 to Trump then have his own puppet president under his complete control in 2028.
Pretty sure Musk can't run for POTUS, having not been born in the US and having no American parents. And when we get to 2028, I'm not sure Trump will care all that much anymore (if he's even around).
 
Pretty sure Musk can't run for POTUS, having not been born in the US and having no American parents. And when we get to 2028, I'm not sure Trump will care all that much anymore (if he's even around).

That is what I meant, he can never be the president but he has the money and the social influence to control a puppet.

Superman or a James Bond villain suits Musk very well
 
Trump is also a huge narcissist and egomaniac. If he feels Elon is overshadowing him or gaining more from the partnership, it could go south very quickly. Trump is the one with the real power in that relationship.


Now strip away anything positive young Anakin says in that vid and focus on the game part. He's been gaming any system he can to make money his whole life and he's about to make an absolute killing with Musk.

How does anyone overshadow the president of the US? Honest question. Besides, Musk looks like he's born to play the role of a sycophant to someone like Trump, and he's shown the awareness up until now to stay in his lane; he'll remain his perfectly odd self and reap a huge dividend from it, imo.

Don't know about your last sentence either. X is an amazing vehicle and can be used in so many ways throughout the term Trump is about to serve.

In closing, I don't see why either will bite the hand that can further their respective ambition. They're going to make a lot of money together and I don't believe Trump has the whimsy you do when it comes to making money, I also don't think Musk is stupid enough to jeopardise something he has put so much time and money into acquiring (the newfound seat of power).
 
Yes, the view the Trump and Elon will inevitably fall out is incredibly simplistic.

Trump can even mock Elon and try to get rid of his physical presence eventually (Trump is evil but still human). Elon won't stop playing his game because of that. There's nowhere else for him to run to.
 
Trump will wanna keep Elon on side to help him win the next election for whatever maga nutjub he chooses
 
Trump fell out with everybody in his first campaign and presidency but has been quite disciplined this time around. I would love for them to fall out but IDK if Trump is the same guy anymore, sadly.
 
Trump fell out with everybody in his first campaign and presidency but has been quite disciplined this time around. I would love for them to fall out but IDK if Trump is the same guy anymore, sadly.
It’s just wishful thinking really. It’s an arrangement of mutual benefit and it will likely sustain. The cooperation of politicians and media houses / business tycoons is a typical facet of any fascist regime.

Plus Musk has no actual moral spine to speak of so he’ll be more than happy to be Trump’s bitch.
 
Trump fell out with everybody in his first campaign and presidency but has been quite disciplined this time around. I would love for them to fall out but IDK if Trump is the same guy anymore, sadly.

To be fair the actual administration hasn't started yet, he fell out with Bannon soon after that. Let's see how things go when he actually has to deliver and do some work rather than posturing.
 
Now strip away anything positive young Anakin says in that vid and focus on the game part. He's been gaming any system he can to make money his whole life and he's about to make an absolute killing with Musk.
You don't have to convince me Trump is greedy, but he can easily make an absolute killing without Musk as well. We are about to see corruption on a whole new level in Trump's second term. But it's Trump that holds the keys here.
How does anyone overshadow the president of the US? Honest question. Besides, Musk looks like he's born to play the role of a sycophant to someone like Trump, and he's shown the awareness up until now to stay in his lane; he'll remain his perfectly odd self and reap a huge dividend from it, imo.
Trump has the thinnest skin in the world. Any media story about Musk running things behind the scenes or exploiting Trump, could get to him. But I do agree that Musk is sleazy, and probably clever enough to avoid pissing him off directly.
Don't know about your last sentence either. X is an amazing vehicle and can be used in so many ways throughout the term Trump is about to serve.
There is simply no comparison. Trump has the full power of the executive branch, as well as the absolute loyalty of the majority in both houses of congress. He is also the one supported by the people. Musk has a social media site. I will maintain that Musk has already done about 98% of what Trump actually needed him for, which was helping him get elected.

Whether they fall out or not is pure speculation. I don't see it as a certainty, but definitely a probability. And if they do, it probably won't be a public spat, but will be spun like Musk having done his work making government perfect, and therefore going back to run his companies. But it's clear to me, that this is not some 50/50 partnership that is mutually beneficial for the two. This is Musk latching on to Trump's teat and sucking as much as he will allow.
 
You don't have to convince me Trump is greedy, but he can easily make an absolute killing without Musk as well. We are about to see corruption on a whole new level in Trump's second term. But it's Trump that holds the keys here.

Trump has the thinnest skin in the world. Any media story about Musk running things behind the scenes or exploiting Trump, could get to him. But I do agree that Musk is sleazy, and probably clever enough to avoid pissing him off directly.

There is simply no comparison. Trump has the full power of the executive branch, as well as the absolute loyalty of the majority in both houses of congress. He is also the one supported by the people. Musk has a social media site. I will maintain that Musk has already done about 98% of what Trump actually needed him for, which was helping him get elected.

Whether they fall out or not is pure speculation. I don't see it as a certainty, but definitely a probability. And if they do, it probably won't be a public spat, but will be spun like Musk having done his work making government perfect, and therefore going back to run his companies. But it's clear to me, that this is not some 50/50 partnership that is mutually beneficial for the two. This is Musk latching on to Trump's teat and sucking as much as he will allow.
You seem to be putting “personality” ahead of making billions of dollars. Trump has always been about [massive] amounts of money before ego and he won’t cut off his supply line to vast amounts of it plopped on his lap. Heckling etc. he’s more likely to respond to in usual manner not cut off his nose to spite his face.

And if we are going to look at them in terms of “personality” Trump has always presented as an alpha and leader in his fields of interest; someone who a person who has mostly been perceived as a loser and a beta etc. is going to follow in a sycophantic way. They are perfect for one another and I don’t see where you think Musk will get ideas above his station from - he’s the type to step on those perceived as below him and kiss the arse of those who project all the things he isn’t. Playing right-hand man with a massive amount of influence couldn’t be better written for him. So where you talk about fallout, I see a fantastic synergistic partnership with, as I said previously, Musk staying perfectly between the lines in his lane.

I would say your perception of the usefulness and tool X is is shortsighted, also. Manipulating and swinging the masses, or simply those who you perceive as pawns is as old as politics itself. They go hand in hand like glove and fist. I’m not sure if the likeness has been made in this thread, but owning and using X to do bidding is no different to Murdoch and the damage his media empire has, and continues, to do around the world. X might be the most visceral of them all in the modern landscape and worth every penny paid for the tool it will continue to be, whose usefulness stretches way beyond what we have already seen.
 
You seem to be putting “personality” ahead of making billions of dollars. Trump has always been about [massive] amounts of money before ego and he won’t cut off his supply line to vast amounts of it plopped on his lap. Heckling etc. he’s more likely to respond to in usual manner not cut off his nose to spite his face.

And if we are going to look at them in terms of “personality” Trump has always presented as an alpha and leader in his fields of interest; someone who a person who has mostly been perceived as a loser and a beta etc. is going to follow in a sycophantic way. They are perfect for one another and I don’t see where you think Musk will get ideas above his station from - he’s the type to step on those perceived as below him and kiss the arse of those who project all the things he isn’t. Playing right-hand man with a massive amount of influence couldn’t be better written for him. So where you talk about fallout, I see a fantastic synergistic partnership with, as I said previously, Musk staying perfectly between the lines in his lane.

I would say your perception of the usefulness and tool X is is shortsighted, also. Manipulating and swinging the masses, or simply those who you perceive as pawns is as old as politics itself. They go hand in hand like glove and fist. I’m not sure if the likeness has been made in this thread, but owning and using X to do bidding is no different to Murdoch and the damage his media empire has, and continues, to do around the world. X might be the most visceral of them all in the modern landscape and worth every penny paid for the tool it will continue to be, whose usefulness stretches way beyond what we have already seen.
No, I just don't think Trump needs Musk to make billions of dollars. I think we just disagree on Musk's usefulness for Trump, and the degree of symmetry in this relationship. And to be clear, I am not expecting a public fallout or that they will become open enemies - just the possibility that Musk can be gone from any official role in the Trump administration sooner rather than later. There will continue to be a somewhat symbiotic relationship no matter what, because even if Trump discards Musk from his inner circle, it will still clearly be in Musk's interest to have a Republican elected for president next time as well.
 
Werder Bremen have left now too. Matter of time before we see some English clubs (probably lower league) hopping to BlueSky if it continues to grow.
 
To be fair to Musk a lot of what is making Twitter so shit (bot replies etc) is part of a general theme of enshitification, which is affecting basically all the big tech companies these days. Have you seen the fecking state of Linkedin recently?!?

I think he only deserves to be personally responsible for the whole fascism thing.
 
To be fair to Musk a lot of what is making Twitter so shit (bot replies etc) is part of a general theme of enshitification, which is affecting basically all the big tech companies these days. Have you seen the fecking state of Linkedin recently?!?

I think he only deserves to be personally responsible for the whole fascism thing.
Haven't they been basically allowing bots to work in their favour in terms of content promotion etc.? I think it's a bit more than something that is just happening on the platform.
 
To be fair to Musk a lot of what is making Twitter so shit (bot replies etc) is part of a general theme of enshitification, which is affecting basically all the big tech companies these days. Have you seen the fecking state of Linkedin recently?!?

I think he only deserves to be personally responsible for the whole fascism thing.
Nah, let’s not.