I've become pretty hooked on this even though i would actually welcome a delay to it so they could get it absolutely right, as it genuinely could be a good game. The grouping system needs some work done to it as-well as the combat system.
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Which faction are you playing as? I felt that Ebonheart's quest line is far more engaging than Daggerfall's- although there was a nice moral dilema in the DC one
Ebonheart. I've been exploring quite a bit and trying to figure out crafting. It can be a little complicated if you don't read how to do it.
Two things I'm passionate about.
Pwning noobs in MMOs since 1996.
And pwning noobs over WW2 History.
Basically I'm a huge geek. That pwns hella noobs.
I have to say I had a lot of fun with the game over the weekend. The crafting system is pretty interesting, I'm wondering how complex it eventually gets but it looks very promising from what I did with it. I felt that the first 5-6 hours were quite slow and a bit linear so I get why so many people are slating the game.. although there were some characters you met that were possibly more interesting than most you meet in the single player Elder Scrolls games (not that its saying much). It was less of an issue for the Ebonhart Pact because the driving tension was the war and the hostility that each race in the Pact has for each other, while the other factions were a bit flimsy with what was going on.
After 7/8 hours the game started to open up and exploring led me to areas with interesting side quests and the combat system really clicked for me. The character customisation/ progression system is really good as well- always wanting the next point for a new shiny talent. Also from what I've seen the PvP is nuts. Once it's polished up it could be a really good game- then again I'm probably the target audience- Elder Scrolls fan with a fairly casual MMO background.
I just got an invite to WildStar beta for this weekend, I'll let you all know how it goes in contrast to how crap TESO was.
Was TESO really that bad?
It's not 'bad' Twigg, it's just bland, I've played a lot of MMO's and TESO didn't have that instant addiction factor that all the good ones gave me. All it made me want to go was go play Skyrim instead because the whole thing felt like a dumbed down version of it with a few MMO elements thrown in for good measure. People may enjoy it but the game isn't remotely good enough to warrant paying €65 and then €15 a month and it's likely going to flop, badly.
Not really been following WildStar, as I played Guild Wars 2- thought it was pretty good but realised I just didn't care for the IP so stopped bothering with it. I think it's hard for a new IP (or in GW2's case an IP I had no knowledge of) to commit people for the time investment needed to properly play an MMO.
Isn't WildStar just NCSoft's WoW? After playing WoW for a long time as a healer, I'm pretty done with UI intensive WoWalikes
Isn't WildStar just NCSoft's WoW? After playing WoW for a long time as a healer, I'm pretty done with UI intensive WoWalikes
Damn I'm so jealous! I can't wait for this game.
It's essentially WoW 2.0 yeah, but is that a bad thing? They've basically just taken the most successful MMO ever and updated everything the way people wanted WoW to, it looks great.
Not a bad thing at all, WoW was a great game. It just isn't for me anymore, I'd rather be looking at the world and at what I'm fighting than at numbers and UI elements 100% of the time now. GW2 was excellent at it (the art direction and music really were fantastic, btw), but just didn't have the lore to commit me to it.
I'm sure WildStar will be great for people who want a new WoW, as long as they are patient enough to wait for polish, content and systems that they are used to with WoW- and they convince their friends and guildmates to make the move.
I so want in on this. 
I agree with you.
The slow/linearity issue was obviously going to happen for new gamers and i expect a few Skyrim players that haven't played an MMO would jump into this so it wasn't that surprising. If you give it a little time and actually take time to read and listen and get immersed into the story it's a good game.
I enjoy the combat when you are fighting certain enemies, as you have to think about what your tactic will be more than in WoW.
How do you get a beta key ffs.
Really enjoyed the first area after level 10 where there were groups of enemies with different skill sets. The heavy armour guy actually attacking face on using blocks, and interrupts- the medium armour guy snaring me, actually dodges my attacks and using a ranged weapon and the mage trying to use frost magic to control me. I've seen the whole 'rogue places oil, fire mage sets it alight' combo too, fortunately its easy to see coming given that they shout out instructions to each other and then you see the big red area appear.
Can't wait to see if they become more complex as the game goes on, rather than just having more HP and doing more damage. Would love to see more boss fights with wow-like raid mechanics, btw. Thought the one in the Ash Mountain region was really enjoyable.
Noooooooo
Yeeeeeeeees!Noooooooo
They won't give 'em to you Aussies, not with your weird timezones and accents.
There isn't an Oceanic server for beta anyway so apparently Aussies get quite a bit of lag.
you lot do get royally shafted when it comes to MMO's.
You want my key? In return you have to be my slave for eternity. Fair deal imo.
We get shafted for pretty much everything.
Depends what this slavery entails. Do I have to wear your jeans?
Nobody is allowed wear my damn jeans but me Mel. It'd mostly involve me mocking you for personal pleasure, throwing feces in your face in public areas, being sexist/racist to you, you know, normal slavery things like that. Deal?
Really enjoyed the first area after level 10 where there were groups of enemies with different skill sets. The heavy armour guy actually attacking face on using blocks, and interrupts- the medium armour guy snaring me, actually dodges my attacks and using a ranged weapon and the mage trying to use frost magic to control me. I've seen the whole 'rogue places oil, fire mage sets it alight' combo too, fortunately its easy to see coming given that they shout out instructions to each other and then you see the big red area appear.
Can't wait to see if they become more complex as the game goes on, rather than just having more HP and doing more damage. Would love to see more boss fights with wow-like raid mechanics, btw. Thought the one in the Ash Mountain region was really enjoyable.
I have no idea how hard this would be to implement but is there any possible way that they can change things like difficulty in an MMO?
Example:
In Star Wars when doing a quest you were put into your own area seperate from other players which was a good idea as it meant you were doing it yourself. Surely if they put something like this into TESO then you could change difficulty (Such as taking the big red area away so you don't know when certain things are coming).
Sounds good. When do I start? You have to fly me to Ireland though.
It could probably be done for the public dungeons, but out in the open it would be difficult to do, Suppose if any MMO could do it, it would be this one because of the mega server phasing tech.
By the way, I hope they limit the number of people in each public dungeon phase to around 4, it was one of the few jarring moments of my time in the beta seeing 10+ people in a dungeon with me. However that was during the early pre-maintenance part of the stress test, so maybe they were deliberately overpopulating phases to see how the servers react? who knows
From reading it i think it is going to be limited to around 4 players. It will be interesting to see how well the system in dungeons works (How a 'Tank' or 'DPS' can instantaneously switch to a 'Healer' to keep the group going without a wipe) when they groups are limited. I also like that in dungeons the whole room of enemies is aware you're there, so you can't skip like you can in WoW (Sometimes you can miss out half a dungeon which sucks).
Speaking of the holy trinity they do need to hurry up and start talking about their equivalent of raids, as nuts as the PvP looks in this game it won't be enough of an 'endgame' to keep most people for more than a few months.
Level 13-15 dungeons
Rock Paper Shotgun didn't like it at all:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/
Have to say my impressions from the beta weekend were the same. Same old shit. I finally let my WoW account lapse last May and I haven't missed it except for a few moments I've got all nostalgic about vanilla WoW. I want a new game, but I need it to not just be WoW with a different face. If I wanted to play WoW then I'd feckin' play WoW!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/
Have to say my impressions from the beta weekend were the same. Same old shit. I finally let my WoW account lapse last May and I haven't missed it except for a few moments I've got all nostalgic about vanilla WoW. I want a new game, but I need it to not just be WoW with a different face. If I wanted to play WoW then I'd feckin' play WoW!
Another Beta this weekend. Won't be on it unfortunately as I've installed FF Online and I'm making use of my 30 days free with that at the moment, I have another Beta Code though if anyone wants it.
I have a code for me 'and a friend', if anyone wants a spare?
No NDA so I'm guessing it's fairly open (have any before this had the NDA lifted?)
No NDA so I'm guessing it's fairly open (have any before this had the NDA lifted?)
It's basically the same build as the previous stress test weekend. On their proper beta test they've recently made quite a few big changes that we won't be getting to test this time- biggest two being; NPC collision detection and starting at your faction's major city with the choice to travel to the tutorial island.
So early access for this has started (five-day access started on Sunday; three-day headstart access for pre-orderers starts in one hour). Anyone playing it? Anyone intending to? I've put my eggs in the WildStar basket but I'm still keeping an eye on this one in case it actually turns out to be brilliant.
Will it be the first MMO on consoles? I can see it becoming the WoW for the console generation if so, since console gamers won't really have encountered anything like it before, just like WoW got a whole load of casuals hooked who were only just getting into the whole "online" thing on their PCs.
Will it be the first MMO on consoles? I can see it becoming the WoW for the console generation if so, since console gamers won't really have encountered anything like it before, just like WoW got a whole load of casuals hooked who were only just getting into the whole "online" thing on their PCs.
WoW hooked a lot of people who had played other MMOs as well. I don't think this one is going to do that very well. Everything I've seen so far indicates that it's not going to be worth my time. The only thing that makes me marginally interested is the Elder Scrolls brand.
It did, but that made up a tiny portion of the overall population. Previous MMOs had topped out at around 500,000 players - by the time The Burning Crusade came out WoW had nine million. The huge, huge majority of those were players (like me) who'd never played an MMO before. The game was good, but to be honest a lot of it is nostalgia. Vanilla WoW had a lot of problems. But they were easily surmountable just because the experience was so damn good - the size of the world, the experience of levelling, the story, and most importantly the feeling that you were part of something bigger, unlike in a single-player game. Console gamers won't really have encountered much like that before if I'm right in thinking there's never been a proper MMO on consoles before. This could be their WoW - and I'm sure that's exactly what Bethesda were thinking when they announced they'd be releasing this on consoles, too; after all, Morrowind was PC only and very successful, but it was Oblivion and (more recently) Skyrim and Fallout 3 that really made them the megabucks - and primarily because they came out on the consoles.
ESO has been a buggy in terms of some quest targets not spawning correctly or NPC's failing to respond to quests objectives, forcing you to relog until you find a 'phase' of the megaserver that they'll work for you in. It's been a lot more fun to play, and more difficult in terms of 'named' creature fights than the beta was, but the bugs really do make things incredibly frustrating.
this will go the way of SWTOR and go F2P this year.
I'd like to play it at some point because i like the whole Elder Scrolls world and lore, but i'm not going to be rushing out to get on the day 1 hype or anything. In fact, i think if i do get around to playing it i'll probably end up doing so on console.
I very much doubt it it's going to be the console WoW. For one thing right now it's simply probably not good enough. Secondly I think you're overestimating the number of console players who haven't played WoW. You don't need a great PC to play WoW. I bet most people who would even consider playing TESO on a console have played or at least are well aware of WoW.
Final Fantasy XIV is on consoles I believe.