I really can't think of a way this summer could have went worse, even getting Fellaini was made a shambles by paying about 5mil more than if we would have just pay the release clause. Literally every single thing Woodward did was a disaster.
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Reading through some of the early posts in this thread, this would actually explain a lot.
I knew it. I called shenanigans on Sunday...
Crafty bastard!
I now hate the cnut.
He needs to resign.
To the best of my knowledge his release cause expired in august, even if it was the end of july we should have signed him then. We had two months for negotiations at that stage and could easily have crossed off our top priorities even if he was the third/fourth choice. Look at arsenal's bid for ozil and ours for fabregas and explain to me how it doesnt smack of incompetence.
This was so predictable.
I'll support Moyes because he's our Manager - Woodward seems an arse but an easy target.
Centre Midfield has been an issue for years.
Fergie and Gill have done zip in that area since about 2007 - Carrick, Anderson and Hargreaves.
Fabregas, Thiago, Ozil - going on past experience Fergie wouldn't have brought those players in so why give the current establishment a hard time.
Today we get Fellaini - a player that can do a good job, a player that our manager knows yet everybody has a problem with it.
I'll support Moyes because he's our Manager - Woodward seems an arse but an easy target.
Centre Midfield has been an issue for years.
Fergie and Gill have done zip in that area since about 2007 - Carrick, Anderson and Hargreaves.
Fabregas, Thiago, Ozil - going on past experience Fergie wouldn't have brought those players in so why give the current establishment a hard time.
Today we get Fellaini - a player that can do a good job, a player that our manager knows yet everybody has a problem with it.
I wouldn't pay him a virus
Please guys... I know he's not the most favored personel at the moment
But he is still the CEO of Manchester United, can we refrain from calling one of us a cnut please.
But he is still the CEO of Manchester United, can we refrain from calling one of us a cnut please.
Who gives a feck what he is. There's no excuse for him toying with another young guys career like he did with Herrera. Just because he is associated with Manchester United in some way doesn't excuse him from being an inept twat.
Do you believe that?
I'm equally disgusted with that, poor effort
But this is a manchester United forum, and if we kept on calling our manager gollum, our ceo a cnut, and god knows what other names we call others at times
We're not that low
Which bit
Not believe but uh, do you think that's truly why people are so pissed off?
A lot of people are upset with Fellaini himself but many more people are upset with the way the club has conducted business. We looked like a gang of inept idiots today with Woodward as the ring leader, screwing over Herrera, not issuing a statement after the imposter debacle, panic bidding Coentrao, and tipping 4.5 mil to Everton for no apparent reason. Fellaini is a decent player and will improve our first team but Woodward has brought this club into disrepute.
A lot of people are upset with Fellaini himself but many more people are upset with the way the club has conducted business. We looked like a gang of inept idiots today with Woodward as the ring leader, screwing over Herrera, not issuing a statement after the imposter debacle, panic bidding Coentrao, and tipping 4.5 mil to Everton for no apparent reason. Fellaini is a decent player and will improve our first team but Woodward has brought this club into disrepute.
Just because he works for the Glazers doesn't make him beyond reproach. His ineptitude and handling of the Herrera deal is farcical. Hanging a player out to dry is embarrassing behavior by the CEO of Manchester United. After Herrera helping advance the move, Woodward pulled out over the amount we overpaid for Fellaini? Stupid. Woodward deserves to be called out on it.
It's a new set up
Fans, the media, forums are obviously all over it like a rash.
Fans especially are prone to getting stuck in but give it time.
I'm waiting to see exactly went on today with our failings but in terms of done deals, Moyes and Woodward have got us a midfield player which we've needed for years. If Fergie had bought him it wouldn't be questioned in the same way.
This season is about patience so we should just wait and see.
This was part of some rant I had about Woodlice in the Herrera thread, couldn't be arsed to get all worked up again on how much I hate that dick Ed & Co. after this summer of shambles & farces!
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Woodward & Bollingboke (or whatever you call the cnut) & the other gobshites behind the scenes, are like Kenyon clones or some shit. What the hells goin on, surely the Glazers must be livid about the negativity over the summer & then we have this diabolical shambles of what happened yesterday. It now seems that those so-called imposters might actually be genuine lawyers & the same lawyers who helped shift Martinez to Bayern!
The fans will give Moyes the benefit of the doubt but not Woodward - that lad is out of his depth & is more concerned with bringin money in & that could be the Glazers main focus atm & they've taken their eye off the ball (if you pardon the pun).
Since the turn of the year, United have agreed 18 new sponsorships / partnerships & when Woodward took over the reigns on 20th February, 2013 - we had 4 new sponsorships / partnerships in the proceeding 2 months. Since the season finished we acquired 9 so-called partnerships, with the most recent acquisition being the Bulova Watch-maker on 14th August, 2013.
Here's the partnership / sponsorship list that we know of for this year alone:
http://ir.manutd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=133303&p=irol-news&nyo=0
The feckin pre-season tour was about three weeks of promotion & the team were playin shit most of the time. That should have been a wake-up call to get the finger out & find new players, but look at what happened - the most bizarre day I can remember in a long time!
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Woodward & Bollingboke (or whatever you call the cnut) & the other gobshites behind the scenes, are like Kenyon clones or some shit. What the hells goin on, surely the Glazers must be livid about the negativity over the summer & then we have this diabolical shambles of what happened yesterday. It now seems that those so-called imposters might actually be genuine lawyers & the same lawyers who helped shift Martinez to Bayern!
The fans will give Moyes the benefit of the doubt but not Woodward - that lad is out of his depth & is more concerned with bringin money in & that could be the Glazers main focus atm & they've taken their eye off the ball (if you pardon the pun).
Since the turn of the year, United have agreed 18 new sponsorships / partnerships & when Woodward took over the reigns on 20th February, 2013 - we had 4 new sponsorships / partnerships in the proceeding 2 months. Since the season finished we acquired 9 so-called partnerships, with the most recent acquisition being the Bulova Watch-maker on 14th August, 2013.
Here's the partnership / sponsorship list that we know of for this year alone:
http://ir.manutd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=133303&p=irol-news&nyo=0
The feckin pre-season tour was about three weeks of promotion & the team were playin shit most of the time. That should have been a wake-up call to get the finger out & find new players, but look at what happened - the most bizarre day I can remember in a long time!
Woodward and Moyes
Pathetic
Pathetic
Really? What about yourself, then?
he screwed up and his new role was probably step too far for the incompetent idiot, sadly i can't see him losing his job over this $hit. I can see the he's still learning excuse been milked out.
Or worse, he'll be highly valued among the Glazers' ranks for shrewd business dealings (from their POVs) and save them millions of dough.
There's not a single positive to say about the guy, this is probably the most bizarre and pathetic the club have ever looked in my lifetime, never have we looked so clueless as we have this summer. Sometimes you just know something isn't going to work and I can tell you know this guy is going to hold the whole club back. Terrible appointment.
Maybe we actually need a director of football or something like that. Let him deal with the football side of things, like transfers or contract negotiations. Wondering if Eric or Neville is interested.
Woodward can feel free to go bringing in the next official arsewipe partners to appease his Glazers overlords.
Woodward can feel free to go bringing in the next official arsewipe partners to appease his Glazers overlords.
I'd relax on the "fire him" shouts, it's his first go after all. Doesn't always end up clean or smooth. innuendo
However, there do need to be some answers as to what went on this summer and why the club was made to look so impotent. It is a question of major concern to United fans particularly given the departure of SAF and Gill. Quite simply, this cannot happen again. If it does, then we need to start evaluating people's positions.
However, there do need to be some answers as to what went on this summer and why the club was made to look so impotent. It is a question of major concern to United fans particularly given the departure of SAF and Gill. Quite simply, this cannot happen again. If it does, then we need to start evaluating people's positions.
Maybe his actions are all known things within the club. Maybe he was truly Glazers' puppet and doing exactly what he was told. If the buck truly stops at the owner, then there's nothing to evaluate or reflect on. It is what it is, accept it, move in.
I wonder if Woodward had a false sense of confidence/arrogance -- 'we are Manchester United and all of you will want to be at OT' attitude.
Thus he undercut any expected market price or release clause?
Thus he undercut any expected market price or release clause?
From the first post of the thread. We should have known.
My impression has always been that the Glazers don't really involve themselves much in the running of the club when it comes to football matters, other than approving transfer fees. You could infer that the reason for our lowball bids was due to the Glazers not making available the necessary funds, or at least being reluctant to. But given our fairly high bids for Cesc and Ander Herrera it seems odd that we'd be willing to spend in the 30-40 range, yet apparently tried to save 5m on Fellaini only to overpay by about 5m. Something doesn't add up there, to me at least.
The most logical explanation is that we entered every negotiation with low bids as some sort of tactic to maximise the value of every purchase, a strategy that proved an abject failure. Given the way United have worked in the past, it seems that sort of strategy would left to the executives at the club, rather than the owners. Ie that's the sort of thing the owners have stayed out of in the past. To me it seems apparent that we attempted to pay the lowest possible price in our negotiations, and that the club rather than the owners were the ones to implement that approach.
I'm not a fan of the Glazers for multiple reasons, but I'm not sure they can be blamed for our failures in this window.
He's a joke.
Horrible appointment.
Horrible appointment.
One thing that makes no sense... Why did we keep on saying we have unlimited funds? Anyone with half a brain would know that by saying that, every club we tried to deal with would try to get every penny they can from us, if they weren't doing it before. We basically came out and said that we'll pay whatever we need to for a player, whoever we want, even though that clearly wasn't the case. Makes no sense.
Most would be removed from the position for less. Fully expect him to get backed though because he has bright in money to the club.
Hopefully am wrong and he will go back to being responsible for the commercial side and someone who has experience in the player transfer market can be brought in. With Fergie leaving least the club should have done was have Gill around to guide him through window.
What an absolute laughing stock we've been made of.
Hopefully am wrong and he will go back to being responsible for the commercial side and someone who has experience in the player transfer market can be brought in. With Fergie leaving least the club should have done was have Gill around to guide him through window.
What an absolute laughing stock we've been made of.
yeah, Gill was well known as a football man, well respected too across Europe as a great operator. Which is why he got that gig in UEFA in the first place. This guy is the complete opposite
To be fair, I would rightly be pissed at this insult if I'm Madrid, Barcelona, or even to the lesser extent Everton (28M for Baines + Fellaini? We're lucky they let Fellaini go, if its us, we would have wanted the club to tell them to feck off)
There is one thing getting mugged and overpaid for a player (ala Madrid) but the thing is, the necessity far outweight the cost, we are at the end of the day bare bone in the midfield, and hypothetically if we bought ozil / fabregas for 50M , it will only probably 5-10M overprice paid, it's not like the two mentioned are utter crock (cough... carrol)
The thing that I'm worried most is that , this + Moyes perceived ineptness + 1 trophy less season can start a domino effect that will lead to mediocrity.
I really hope we perform some sort of show of force come next transfer (not being a muppet, but we really need to exert our presence in the market). It is good being principal and stuff, but some flexibility in extreme cases are at times necessary
There is one thing getting mugged and overpaid for a player (ala Madrid) but the thing is, the necessity far outweight the cost, we are at the end of the day bare bone in the midfield, and hypothetically if we bought ozil / fabregas for 50M , it will only probably 5-10M overprice paid, it's not like the two mentioned are utter crock (cough... carrol)
The thing that I'm worried most is that , this + Moyes perceived ineptness + 1 trophy less season can start a domino effect that will lead to mediocrity.
I really hope we perform some sort of show of force come next transfer (not being a muppet, but we really need to exert our presence in the market). It is good being principal and stuff, but some flexibility in extreme cases are at times necessary
He should do the only honourable thing that he can do now and that is resign, sadly he won't the useless cnut. Oh and as for someone who said not to call him a cnut because he is one of us, he is not one of us at all. He is a mistake that needs to be corrected.
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We'll wait and see. If he gets rightfully fired after costing the club more then 4m hindering the franchise image in the process then you're wrong.
He probably should be sacked. If he's messed as badly this summer as he seems to have, then there's no place for second chances really. Such a giant organisation isn't the place to get your training as a CEO.
Looking at how spurs and city have gotten their business done, Woodward comes out very poorly in comparison. They've gotten business done swiftly and without fuss (barring willian) and we've dragged our feet over every tiny issue. You don't miss out on a player you need badly due to 4-5 million. It's retarded.
We really need to get our act together in the transfer market, for me it's a very worrying sign of things to come.
We really need to get our act together in the transfer market, for me it's a very worrying sign of things to come.
He really should be sacked, and I'm not sure that's just me talking in anger over realizing we even managed to miss out on Herrera (who we were literally in the fecking La Liga offices with representatives trying to sign with two fecking hours left of the transfer window). I started out this post more disappointed than angry, but writing that last part has made me angry. feck this wanker off.
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