Edinson Cavani

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Godfather said:
I see where he is coming from. The guy screams out one season wonder. Really looks nothing special at all.
Cavani on the other hand does look a proper striker but we really don't need him. If we want a "big" signing as reported then we should look for the CM spot.
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That's the same feeling I get with. Productive but he doesn't seem a 'special player'.
 
saivet said:
1st leg, Napoli vs Chelsea, he was very good I thought. Apart from that, as I never watch him in the league, I'm struggling to point out good performances.
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Games against Man City and Chelsea when at Napoli?
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Agree - he's not bad but he's not worth that either, point is we don't need him and if PSG were going to sell they'd want a return on their investment made only a year ago
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you are right. United doesnt need him at all. He should be used as central forward and United already has two very good strikers for this position. It would be madness to buy him, especially after the contract extension with Rooney.
He would be perfect for Chelsea and also fit into Real or Arsenal. I love him as player, but sadly I rarely watch the french league. I hope he moves to a top club in england or spain.
 
Some very strange comments in here from people who seem to be basing their opinions on 2 or 3 games. He's a top notch all round centre forward, amongst the top 4 or 5 in the world, and has a fantastic work rate.

Granted, we don't need him, and the fee is massive, but RVP is 31 and he's better than Rooney.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Makes no sense though, You can't score 40 goals playing in Europes top league and not be a top player
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Depends on your definition of a top player. The likes of Kevin Phillips, or even those who did it more regularly like Inzaghi were never top players to me. Nor was Darren Bent for all his goals.

Costa knows how to get goals, at least je has for one season of his career so far. However, when it's all over, he won't be looked back on as a great player in my view, he was just the guy who got the goals for Atletico/Chelsea at the time. Had to be someone, they are top clubs.

Statistics have nothing to do with my assessment of Costa. I have often spoken about how I draw my assessments from 'watching the game as opposed to reading it'. I don't draw all my opinions from what I could get from Opta data or Wikipedia. From watching Costa, and seeing what he can and can't do - my view is that he isn't a very top player.

If Diego Costa, RVP and Suarez all get the same amount of goals next season, how do you decide who is the better player? Or are they all just as good at football then?
 
Zii said:
1 pass
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One pass my arse. He had a very good game, only behind suarez and may be pereira. Held up the ball, served as a very good outlet even while playing deeper.
Apart from playing that key pass, he played perfect no 2 helping out Suarez. We don't need him though, but that doesn't make him a bad player suddenly.
 
moonred said:
One pass my arse. He had a very good game, only behind suarez and may be pereira. Held up the ball, served as a very good outlet even while playing deeper.
Apart from playing that key pass, he played perfect no 2 helping out Suarez. We don't need him though, but that doesn't make him a bad player suddenly.
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He also completely nullified Gerrard when England had the ball
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Some very strange comments in here from people who seem to be basing their opinions on 2 or 3 games. He's a top notch all round centre forward, amongst the top 4 or 5 in the world, and has a fantastic work rate.

Granted, we don't need him, and the fee is massive, but RVP is 31 and he's better than Rooney.
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He is very good, but top 4 or 5 in the world? Really?

Ronaldo, Suarez, RVP, Falcao, Messi....that's 5 better straightaway.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
He is very good, but top 4 or 5 in the world? Really?

Ronaldo, Suarez, RVP, Falcao, Messi....that's 5 better straightaway.
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Bole Top said:
actually, there really isn't much between Falcao, RvP and Cavani.
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This. Plus Ronaldo isn't a centre forward, arguably not Messi either. My top 5 centre forwards would be Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Cavani.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
This. Plus Ronaldo isn't a centre forward, arguably not Messi either. My top 5 centre forwards would be Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Cavani.
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Messi is exactly a centre forward, just because he started his career as a winger it doesn't alter the fact he's played through the middle - and only through the middle - at Barcelona for about 4 years and has a strop every time a manager wants to move him back to the wing.
 
moonred said:
One pass my arse. He had a very good game, only behind suarez and may be pereira. Held up the ball, served as a very good outlet even while playing deeper.
Apart from playing that key pass, he played perfect no 2 helping out Suarez. We don't need him though, but that doesn't make him a bad player suddenly.
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Exactly my point, he is a striker and played deep and held the ball up, we dont need that
 
mufcwarm92 said:
This. Plus Ronaldo isn't a centre forward, arguably not Messi either. My top 5 centre forwards would be Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Cavani.
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Hmm, bit of an outdated view given the evolution in football tactics? Ronaldo isn't a winger anymore and they don't all have to be like Alan Shearer these days IMO. Forgot about Zlatan!
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Hmm, bit of an outdated view given the evolution in football tactics? Ronaldo isn't a winger anymore and they don't all have to be like Alan Shearer these days IMO. Forgot about Zlatan!
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I get what you're saying but my comment was 'all round centre forward' not goal scorer. Ronaldo and Messi obviously a step ahead of anyone as goal scorers.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
I get what you're saying but my comment was 'all round centre forward' not goal scorer. Ronaldo and Messi obviously a step ahead of anyone as goal scorers.
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Oh, OK. Anyway I guess this is all a bit irrelevant. Cavani is a top attacker and as long as it is a Van Gaal signing, not a Woody ego trip, I'm happy!
 
I hope Cavani has enough brain cells left in him to realise he won't be the main man here and therefore stays where he is. He doesn't bring anything we already don't have in abundance. And it's not even that he is a young striker who will be in his best age once Rooney/RvP leave, he is already 27 ffs!
 
the way I see it, even though our attack looks sorted at the moment, things can change quickly. there is a strong possibility that one of Welbeck/Hernandez will soon leave the club because of lack of games. if we keep all of our current strikers, we won't need another one this year, but what about the next season? RvP will be 32 (which is not big deal) and I really can't see Welbeck and Hernandez staying after another season of warming the bench and that's likely to happen because we won't play in champions league which means even less opportunities for both of them. either way, I think we will need another striker soon.
 
Rozay said:
Depends on your definition of a top player. The likes of Kevin Phillips, or even those who did it more regularly like Inzaghi were never top players to me. Nor was Darren Bent for all his goals.

Costa knows how to get goals, at least je has for one season of his career so far. However, when it's all over, he won't be looked back on as a great player in my view, he was just the guy who got the goals for Atletico/Chelsea at the time. Had to be someone, they are top clubs.

Statistics have nothing to do with my assessment of Costa. I have often spoken about how I draw my assessments from 'watching the game as opposed to reading it'. I don't draw all my opinions from what I could get from Opta data or Wikipedia. From watching Costa, and seeing what he can and can't do - my view is that he isn't a very top player.

If Diego Costa, RVP and Suarez all get the same amount of goals next season, how do you decide who is the better player? Or are they all just as good at football then?
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Statistics don't lie though, your eyes pretty much see what you want them to see.

If Costa, RVP and Suarez all hit 30 goals next season, then yeah, they should all be considered top players. Chelsea fans will say Costa, Scousers/Madrid/Barca fans will say Suarez and United fans will say RVP.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Statistics don't lie though, your eyes pretty much see what you want them to see.

If Costa, RVP and Suarez all hit 30 goals next season, then yeah, they should all be considered top players. Chelsea fans will say Costa, Scousers/Madrid/Barca fans will say Suarez and United fans will say RVP.
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Stats will tell you Miroslav Klose is like the best ever. The gift of sight will correct rhat notion thankfully.

Strikers score goals everywhere. There are only a few real top class forwards at a time though. The thing is, aside from them, people will always score. Without checking the stats, I would guess that Luca Toni's best season in Italy yielded a similar amount of goals as Ronaldo's at Inter. Even Toni's mother would not use that as an example to say they were similar.

For statistics to reflect the actual gap in ability and quality between Ronaldo and Toni, Ronaldo would have to score about 120 goals in a season. That would allow someone without eyes to get a clear picture of just how much better than Toni Ronaldo was.

Scoring lots of goals doesn't make you a great player in my view. Costa isn't one in my opinion. He's good in that he does his job. But he isn't special I don't think.
 
Really hope the United rumours about him are false.
 
He's clearly a better player than he's shown. Only shown glimpses of quality sporadically at the World Cup, but the attacking quality around him - Suarez aside - just isn't up to the standard required. He's often been guilty of being wasteful in front of goal in the big moments, but he is a tireless team player who is often too isolated, not being picked out enough by teammates or playing in areas where he's nowhere near effective.

I don't want us to sign him. In fact I'm vehemently against it, but he's still a quality striker.
 
He's a quality striker and one of the best in the world but I can see why people who don't watch him regularly would think he's overrated, the games he's played that most would watch like the CL/WC etc. he's hardly pulled up any trees in.
 
I honestly watched at least 10 games in which he played and he was shit in each and every one of them.
 
I've watched him a fair amount in the last year or so. Honestly, I've seen him score goals - some crackers but only seen him have a handful of performances which have left me thinking he deserves this tag of a quality striker.

Hustle and bustle, determined but lacks that finesse which identifies the best strikers IMO. By that I mean he isn't a striker like RVP, Falcao, Aguero, Suarez who you tip your hat off watching. Underwhelming.
 
Don't know what to make of this.

For Napoli against Chelsea and Man City he was really good. But since then whenever I watched him he's been poor.
 
What is he....? Everytime I see him his crap! Uruguay, Napoli... Uruguay, PSG...

I've had enough of him he can't be £60m's worth i don't care how good his youtube videos are.. There fake.
 
Summit said:
Really hope the United rumours about him are false.
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I doubt it if the rumours are false. According to reliable Andy Mitten:


Uruguay and PSG striker Edinson Cavani has been given an offer to join Manchester United, according to newspaper the Manchester Evening News.

Written by Andy Mitten, a reliable source on all things Man United, he says Cavani knows the offer is on the table but is worried about entering a similar environment to that of PSG.

By that he means he doesn’t want to be second fiddle. Cavani is already second striker to Ibrahimovic at PSG and wouldn’t like to move to United only to be marginalized by Van Persie.
 
I wouldn't judge him by his performance on this world cup, Uruguay is pretty shit and he's usually better than this. whatever is that people want from Welbeck, they'll get that from Cavani too, just much better and much deadlier. I've been following him for about 3 or 4 years (since his transfer to Napoli) and he even outscored all of those names that were mentioned here (RvP, Suarez, Falcao, Rooney...) in the same period. he can be hit and miss sometimes but despite that, he is reliable goalscorer and I don't get all this sudden "every time he plays he looks shit" comments.
 
We don't need him. Plain and Simple and he is no RvP to go after even when not 'needed.'
 
Boycott said:
I've watched him a fair amount in the last year or so. Honestly, I've seen him score goals - some crackers but only seen him have a handful of performances which have left me thinking he deserves this tag of a quality striker.

Hustle and bustle, determined but lacks that finesse which identifies the best strikers IMO. By that I mean he isn't a striker like RVP, Falcao, Aguero, Suarez who you tip your hat off watching. Underwhelming.
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I'm probably using that term loosely then as I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as the strikers you've listed. He's a tier below, but a very good striker nonetheless.
 
Sam said:
He's crap every single time I watch him.
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I have the same experience. It's not just this world cup in which he seems even more aweful than usual when I've watched him, but also with PSG he doesn't look like a topstriker to me. Granted he has a fantastic workrate, but his first touch is so aweful. Whenever he has the ball, I never expect something special to happen. For a player that cost as much as he did, I think we should expect something special. But even the more ordinary he seems to not do very well most of the time.

I probably should have watched him more at Napoli, because now he just seems pretty ordinary to me. Or maybe I just don't like his type of striker.
 
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