Edinson Cavani

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mufcwarm92 said:
This. Plus Ronaldo isn't a centre forward, arguably not Messi either. My top 5 centre forwards would be Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Cavani.
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Both Ronaldo and Messi are centre forwards. Also - Aguero is much better than Cavani, Reus IMO already as well, Benzema, Rooney and Lewandowski arguably as well..

In other words I don't believe he's top ten. In no particular order:

Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero, RvP, Falcao, Ibra, Suarez, Reus, Rooney, Lewandowski , Benzema...
 
Cristiano_RAFC said:
I have the same experience. It's not just this world cup in which he seems even more aweful than usual when I've watched him, but also with PSG he doesn't look like a topstriker to me. Granted he has a fantastic workrate, but his first touch is so aweful. Whenever he has the ball, I never expect something special to happen. For a player that cost as much as he did, I think we should expect something special. But even the more ordinary he seems to not do very well most of the time.

I probably should have watched him more at Napoli, because now he just seems pretty ordinary to me. Or maybe I just don't like his type of striker.
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Archetypal flat track bully.

He's a physical beast so he'll score for fun against utter shite but he's also mentally crap so he won't ever do anything against anyone half decent. Don't even think his workrate is much cop.

Never been a fan, hope to god we don't sign him because he's absolutely crap.
 
It might the case of him having to play second fiddle to Suarez at international level and Ibra for PSG. When you're by far your teams best attacking threat it is a lot easier to look good, Dempsey and Cahill are both having good World Cup's but If you stuck either in England's team behind the likes of Rooney and Sturridge they would look completely out of place.

He's still a good player mind you but I don't see him ever being a £50m while Ibra is at PSG.
 
matherto said:
Archetypal flat track bully.

He's a physical beast so he'll score for fun against utter shite but he's also mentally crap so he won't ever do anything against anyone half decent. Don't even think his workrate is much cop.

Never been a fan, hope to god we don't sign him because he's absolutely crap.
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Scored 40 goals in one season. Scored European goals against both City and Chelsea. He has a very high work rate.

Scored goals against Benfica away, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Italy, hat-tricks against Roma, Lazio, Inter, Juventus, Milan, hat-tricks in Europe. At Napoli when he was the main man he was a very good player. Scored some amazing goals (go check his top 10 goals if you really want).

He hasn't been the same but he's played out of position and been second fiddle. He is far from being "absolutely crap" though.
 
I'm not sure I get all the fuss either, but he does work hard, and can put in a nice cross, so there is that going for him...
 
I've yet to be impressed with Cavani. I can't see a thirty goal a season player in him, but he has delivered before.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Both Ronaldo and Messi are centre forwards. Also - Aguero is much better than Cavani, Reus IMO already as well, Benzema, Rooney and Lewandowski arguably as well..

In other words I don't believe he's top ten. In no particular order:

Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero, RvP, Falcao, Ibra, Suarez, Reus, Rooney, Lewandowski , Benzema...
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Cavani has defnitely ben better than Rooney for quite a while now, and I don't think that you can count Reus as a center forward (at-least not yet). I also don't think that Benzema is better than him, probably Cavani is marginally better than him. I agree that the others you mentioned are better than him.
 
matherto said:
Archetypal flat track bully.

He's a physical beast so he'll score for fun against utter shite but he's also mentally crap so he won't ever do anything against anyone half decent. Don't even think his workrate is much cop.

Never been a fan, hope to god we don't sign him because he's absolutely crap.
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Everybody who says this gives himself that he has never watched him during his spell at Napoli. He was one of the best big game players there and him being mentally strong and performing against all teams - regardless how good they are - was one of his biggest strengths.
 
matherto said:
Archetypal flat track bully.

He's a physical beast so he'll score for fun against utter shite but he's also mentally crap so he won't ever do anything against anyone half decent. Don't even think his workrate is much cop.

Never been a fan, hope to god we don't sign him because he's absolutely crap.
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:lol:

You might wanna check his record in Italy before posting things about him tbf, would be hard to find someone with a better record against the top sides than him.

He's a great striker and one of the best, his confidence is probably shot because of playing second fiddle to Ibra. Stick him up top and play to suit his strengths and you're guaranteed to get 30 goals out of him.
 
he is suffering for being second fiddle to zlatan at PSG and to suarez with uruguay. play him as the main man upfront then the goals should return i think. still, we don't need him, eventhough he is top class.
 
I don't know about him being crap but I know we don't need him. Our reported interest better be just that and not more.
 
I think he'll have one of those Ibra type moments (4 goals vs England) where he'll bully an English team and people will say he's a top striker. He's been in recent times when a lot of English viewers are watching but his time at Napoli both in Europe and Serie A do show that he has some real quality.
 
Cristiano_RAFC said:
I have the same experience. It's not just this world cup in which he seems even more aweful than usual when I've watched him, but also with PSG he doesn't look like a topstriker to me. Granted he has a fantastic workrate, but his first touch is so aweful. Whenever he has the ball, I never expect something special to happen. For a player that cost as much as he did, I think we should expect something special. But even the more ordinary he seems to not do very well most of the time.

I probably should have watched him more at Napoli, because now he just seems pretty ordinary to me. Or maybe I just don't like his type of striker.
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I agree with that have watched him last season at PSG and during this WC, I gotta say I'm a little underwhelmed! As you say fantastic work rate but just nothing else about him really.
 
He was a different beast at Napoli. He had is clumsy moments but Cavani was more in the box at napoli. He had very good games against Man City and Chelsea for example.
 
saivet said:
I think he'll have one of those Ibra type moments (4 goals vs England) where he'll bully an English team and people will say he's a top striker. He's been in recent times when a lot of English viewers are watching but his time at Napoli both in Europe and Serie A do show that he has some real quality.
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Didn't Zlatan say something like that? That the English only rate you if you score against an English team. :lol:
 
CurryCantona said:
My short description of Cavani would be he's a taller Wayne Rooney.
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It is completely wrong then. Rooney is much more influential than Cavani and has a far better range of passing. Cavani on the other hand is IMO a better striker, is physcially stronger and works much harder.
 
Revan said:
It is completely wrong then. Rooney is much more influential than Cavani and has a far better range of passing. Cavani on the other hand is IMO a better striker, is physcially stronger and works much harder.
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This is pretty much it.

Also, they play differently in a team in that Cavani thrives off being a lone striker, the main man, whereas Rooney's strength comes from a supporting striker.
 
Very good player. But we're not desperate enough for a striker to pay that much for one. But if it's under 35m, I'd consider it if I was LvG.
 
The only way any one can pass off the 80m tag as believable would be if it included wages over 4-5 years. So something like 40m+5x8m a year.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
This. Plus Ronaldo isn't a centre forward, arguably not Messi either. My top 5 centre forwards would be Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Cavani.
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Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Van Persie, Suarez and Aguero.
 
80m? No way would we pay that much for him, unless with wages like someone suggested. He wouldnt even be our starting striker. Just buying strikers and playing them out of position. Cavani is unhappy at PSG, here it will be the same story again. Where does that leave Welbeck? Instead of spending the money on a versatile di Maria or Vidal, we buy a striker. Hope this stuff isnt true.
 
This has shit signing written all over it. Last thing we need is another ageing immobile striker.
 
Rather not sign anyone than Spunk 80 million on him given the options we have already.
 
I wish we would sign this guy.

--Cavani--

Sanchez-Ozil-Walcott--

Ramsey--Schneidirlin

:drool:

It hasn't really worked out for him at PSG, had an okay world cup, stock fallen a bit since his Napoli days but if anyone can bring the best out of him its Wenger.

Why are we not even interested when we desperately need a striker while Man Utd who have Rooney, RVP, Welbeck and Hernandez in their ranks appear to be.
 
Revan said:
I think that Lewandovski should be there too. Probably only Suarez and eventually Ibra are better than him.
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I'd take, Suarez, RVP, Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Lewandowski, Aguero, Rooney, Diego Costa and even Benzema over Cavani. There's probably more too, simply don't rate him.
 
JSArsenal said:
I wish we would sign this guy.

--Cavani--

Sanchez-Ozil-Walcott--

Ramsey--Schneidirlin

:drool:

It hasn't really worked out for him at PSG, had an okay world cup, stock fallen a bit since his Napoli days but if anyone can bring the best out of him its Wenger.

Why are we not even interested when we desperately need a striker while Man Utd who have Rooney, RVP, Welbeck and Hernandez in their ranks appear to be.
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Where are you getting the money for Sanchez, Schneiderlein and Cavani?
 
I am calling this as horse shit. No way do we need an over rated Cavani and certainly not for anything more than 30 mil pounds. 8/10 times I have watched him play, he has looked average.
 
it depends. we may need a new striker soon and Cavani would be a perfect addition.

my post earlier in the month:

Bole Top said:
the way I see it, even though our attack looks sorted at the moment, things can change quickly. there is a strong possibility that one of Welbeck/Hernandez will soon leave the club because of lack of games. if we keep all of our current strikers, we won't need another one this year, but what about the next season? RvP will be 32 (which is not big deal) and I really can't see Welbeck and Hernandez staying after another season of warming the bench and that's likely to happen because we won't play in champions league which means even less opportunities for both of them. either way, I think we will need another striker soon.
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in short, we will need him if:

1. Welbeck and Hernandez don't get enough games and decide to leave the club after this season - that's almost certain to happen.

2. Rooney leaves - not likely.
 
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