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This whole episode reminds me of Freddy Adu... We took him on a month's trial too, just to see what we would get and decided against it.. However this doesn't necessarily mean that any sort of deal is off.. However sadly it looks like it is..

Freddy Adu is/was no-where near the quality of this lad. I'd be delighted if United buy him. Check out his you-tube footage man on the previous page :cool:
 
Freddy Adu is/was no-where near the quality of this lad. I'd be delighted if United buy him. Check out his you-tube footage man on the previous page :cool:

It seems that a good chunk of that YouTube footage is coming from youth games though, so his stand out quality needs to be put in context. Also, YouTube highlights can make loads of player seem amazing.


 
It seems that a good chunk of that YouTube footage is coming from youth games though, so his stand out quality needs to be put in context. Also, YouTube highlights can make loads of player seem amazing.




That maybe so, but players like him are plucked early on the basis of Youth football. Regardless of that, he's impressed me greatly & United would build him up just like they did with Ronnie. I'd love this type of player at United. Hopefully we get him & also that Tosic has a very good pre-season too!

I liked the examples you highlighted there - Bendtner being the best, Nani can still make it though - aslong as he becomes more of a team player. Ronnie leaving could really bring him on - no more living in his shadow!
 
That maybe so, but players like him are plucked early on the basis of Youth football. Regardless of that, he's impressed me greatly & United would build him up just like they did with Ronnie. I'd love this type of player at United. Hopefully we get him & also that Tosic has a very good pre-season too!

I liked the examples you highlighted there - Bendtner being the best, Nani can still make it though - aslong as he becomes more of a team player. Ronnie leaving could really bring him on - no more living in his shadow!

Don't get me wrong, Costa does look like he has a lot of potential, and United clearly think so - i'm just a bit hesitant to be using YouTube as 'proof' of the lads talent. I'm sure if you looked, YouTube videos of Adu would look equally amazing.
 
I made my mind up and we have to buy him. I've seen enough to decide that he will be our new no. 7.
 
Freddy Adu is/was no-where near the quality of this lad. I'd be delighted if United buy him. Check out his you-tube footage man on the previous page :cool:

I agree completely.. He doesn't look like Adu at all he looks miles above him.. But I was just thinking of (the situation) how we were interested in Adu and decided to take him on trial and on a closer look SAF/Club officials decided he was not up for it at that point in time..

As I have mentioned many times over I think Costa need to stay in Brazil for a year or 2 more atleast.. He needs to 1st become a regular at his club and prove his worth at a consistent level.. That is why I would be over the moon if we signed him on a pre-contract to come either next year or the year after.. He looks really really special, but looks can be very deceptive..

Don't get me wrong, Costa does look like he has a lot of potential, and United clearly think so - i'm just a bit hesitant to be using YouTube as 'proof' of the lads talent. I'm sure if you looked, YouTube videos of Adu would look equally amazing.

Not as good but definitely great for a 17 year old at the time..
 
Don't get me wrong, Costa does look like he has a lot of potential, and United clearly think so - i'm just a bit hesitant to be using YouTube as 'proof' of the lads talent. I'm sure if you looked, YouTube videos of Adu would look equally amazing.

Every big club in Europe have been scouting this lad for the past 2 years - notably Real. So its obvious that all these great clubs have seen the potential of him aswell.

Also, Adu plays in the North American league so to compare what Adu does in a shit league to that of Costa - regardless of first team action, doesnt make me feel any different. We should spend whatever it takes to get this lad, he'll be a fecking star :cool:
 
Every big club in Europe have been scouting this lad for the past 2 years - notably Real. So its obvious that all these great clubs have seen the potential of him aswell.

Also, Adu plays in the North American league so to compare what Adu does in a shit league to that of Costa - regardless of first team action, doesnt make me feel any different. We should spend whatever it takes to get this lad, he'll be a fecking star :cool:

United, Real and Inter were all scouting Adu too.
 
Surely you mean AC Milan? They have all the Brazilians while Inter, well they're not called Argen-Inter for nothing.

Well it's even there in their name - Internazionale = Internationals

The whole reason Inter Milan exist is because a large group of people at AC Milan wanted to sign foreign players, so they broke away and set up Internazionale
 
If the story about Gremio's refusal of a trial is true then there must be something about the player's quality that we should be worried about. He is 18 and a relatively unknown entity of whom they are seeking to pocket more than £10mil. I am sure we'll have no problem paying the asking price so long as we satisfy ourselves before hand with the merchandise.
 
If the story about Gremio's refusal of a trial is true then there must be something about the player's quality that we should be worried about. He is 18 and a relatively unknown entity of whom they are seeking to pocket more than £10mil. I am sure we'll have no problem paying the asking price so long as we satisfy ourselves before hand with the merchandise.

But also, if he wasn't all that then they wouldn't be trying to price him out of a move either. £21m for a young player should ensure some fairly substantial ability already and indicate more than just promise. If we do sign the lad it can't be for more than £10m.
 
I agree completely.. He doesn't look like Adu at all he looks miles above him.. But I was just thinking of (the situation) how we were interested in Adu and decided to take him on trial and on a closer look SAF/Club officials decided he was not up for it at that point in time..

As I have mentioned many times over I think Costa need to stay in Brazil for a year or 2 more atleast.. He needs to 1st become a regular at his club and prove his worth at a consistent level.. That is why I would be over the moon if we signed him on a pre-contract to come either next year or the year after.. He looks really really special, but looks can be very deceptive..



Not as good but definitely great for a 17 year old at the time..

Thats an interesting point alright Chirag :cool:

My thoughts on that are, United want him to "come for a trial", so they can bring over all his immediate family also. United have a white Hiace van - similar to that of the Travelling community & they bungle them into the back of it unnoticed.

United then announce that the Costa's evaded them at Manchester Airport & they not know of their whereabouts!

They then send them to Michael Jacksons Whitener - who changes their skin colour to fair skinned!

After the skin-whitening process is complete, they then bring the Costa family to Big Chief Running Water-Clarke (the famous Native American Indian Hairdresser) - who's clinic is in a secret location in Southern Ireland, where he removes their scalp & puts in place the Ginger gene.

After a few weeks recuperation, they begin English lessons - Irish dialect!

Next up is history lessons of Ireland. They get a grounding on all things Irish day by day, and watch many dvd's of English imperialism, torture & injustice of the Irish people. Films such as Michael Collins, The Wind that shakes the Barley, The Quiet Man, Crying game, In the Name of the Father etc....

Monitoring of the progress is essential as to summarise their Irishness!

Humour is also essential to complete the process. Dvds will again be the vehicle. Films such as the Snapper, The Van, The Committments etc.. will be shown. They can use this as the bible for their humour & will be encouraged to have a few beers aswell - even the toddlers too!

After a few months when the Irishness is complete - names will be given!

Passports will then be sought through United's operatives in the Dublin Passport Office!

The family name will be agreed depending on the area (yet to be decided) and once integration within the local community is enhanced - a Manchester United scout will be on hand to move into action & who just happens to be in the local park watchin the young Costa do his stuff!

United then announce they have unearthed a young Irish lad who they believe has the potential to set the world alight for Club & Country. He signs professional forms, with United buying the lads family a big house in Manchester aswell as a big one in Ireland (location still not decided)!

Sorted - no fee to pay & again Fergie is the man :cool:
 
That was a fecking unbelievable goal. Costa went past 2 players, the keeper and then slotted it past the defender on the line.

I've got a link if anyone needs one.
 
That was a fecking unbelievable goal. Costa went past 2 players, the keeper and then slotted it past the defender on the line.

I've got a link if anyone needs one.

Urm.. I don't want to burst your bubble but he is supposedly injured!
 
Manchester United face battle over Douglas Costa
James Ducker, Nick Szczepanik

Manchester United’s pursuit of their summer transfer targets is not proving straightforward, with Grêmio digging in their heels over Douglas Costa and Real Madrid providing stiff competition for the signature of Antonio Valencia.

As revealed by The Times on Tuesday, United have opened talks with Grêmio about signing Douglas, the Brazil Under-20 attacking midfield player.

Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, wants to take Douglas on a three-week trial this summer before deciding whether to make an offer for the 18-year-old, but that request was rejected by Duda Kroeff, the Grêmio president, who has told the Barclays Premier League champions to make a straight cash bid or end their interest.

Douglas is understood to have a release clause of about £21 million in his contract, which has four years left to run, but United are prepared to pay only about a third of that figure.


“I received a phone call from someone working for Manchester United,” Kroeff said. “He asked for Douglas to be released [for a trial] and said that he would not play, but that they wanted to see him in action. I said to them that this will not happen.

“Douglas is not at a stage where he would go through such a situation. He is an established player, he is not a stranger. He has no need to face tests at European clubs.”

Valencia’s future is expected to move closer to being resolved next week, with United and Real having lodged bids for the Wigan Athletic and Ecuador winger.

United may yet ask Real to step aside given that they are selling Cristiano Ronaldo to them. However, the Spanish club have been badgering Wigan for weeks about Valencia and have offered no indication that they are prepared to back off.

Valencia, 23, is thought to want to stay in England. He is concerned that his first-team opportunities might be more limited at the Bernabéu given Ronaldo’s impending arrival and the capture of Kaká from AC Milan.

Ferguson also admires Karim Benzema and Sergio Agüero, the Lyons and Atlético Madrid strikers respectively, both of whom are valued at about £45 million, but the United manager is not interested at the kind of prices being quoted.

United would be more tempted if Lyons or Atlético dropped their valuations to around the £25 million mark, but given that both players are only 21 and remain relatively inexperienced, Ferguson believes that even then a move for either would be a gamble.

Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots American football team and the New England Revolution, said yesterday that he decided against buying Liverpool in 2005 because of the absence of a salary cap in European football.

“I’d like to see a salary cap come to the English Premier League,” Kraft said. “If it did, I’d buy a team in a minute. I would be interested in other teams in the Premier League, but Liverpool was a unique franchise, with a great following. We came very close to buying it, very close.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article6578593.ece
 
Manchester United face battle over Douglas Costa
James Ducker, Nick Szczepanik

Manchester United’s pursuit of their summer transfer targets is not proving straightforward, with Grêmio digging in their heels over Douglas Costa and Real Madrid providing stiff competition for the signature of Antonio Valencia.

As revealed by The Times on Tuesday, United have opened talks with Grêmio about signing Douglas, the Brazil Under-20 attacking midfield player.

Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, wants to take Douglas on a three-week trial this summer before deciding whether to make an offer for the 18-year-old, but that request was rejected by Duda Kroeff, the Grêmio president, who has told the Barclays Premier League champions to make a straight cash bid or end their interest.

Douglas is understood to have a release clause of about £21 million in his contract, which has four years left to run, but United are prepared to pay only about a third of that figure.


“I received a phone call from someone working for Manchester United,” Kroeff said. “He asked for Douglas to be released [for a trial] and said that he would not play, but that they wanted to see him in action. I said to them that this will not happen.

“Douglas is not at a stage where he would go through such a situation. He is an established player, he is not a stranger. He has no need to face tests at European clubs.”

Valencia’s future is expected to move closer to being resolved next week, with United and Real having lodged bids for the Wigan Athletic and Ecuador winger.

United may yet ask Real to step aside given that they are selling Cristiano Ronaldo to them. However, the Spanish club have been badgering Wigan for weeks about Valencia and have offered no indication that they are prepared to back off.

Valencia, 23, is thought to want to stay in England. He is concerned that his first-team opportunities might be more limited at the Bernabéu given Ronaldo’s impending arrival and the capture of Kaká from AC Milan.

Ferguson also admires Karim Benzema and Sergio Agüero, the Lyons and Atlético Madrid strikers respectively, both of whom are valued at about £45 million, but the United manager is not interested at the kind of prices being quoted.

United would be more tempted if Lyons or Atlético dropped their valuations to around the £25 million mark, but given that both players are only 21 and remain relatively inexperienced, Ferguson believes that even then a move for either would be a gamble.

Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots American football team and the New England Revolution, said yesterday that he decided against buying Liverpool in 2005 because of the absence of a salary cap in European football.

“I’d like to see a salary cap come to the English Premier League,” Kraft said. “If it did, I’d buy a team in a minute. I would be interested in other teams in the Premier League, but Liverpool was a unique franchise, with a great following. We came very close to buying it, very close.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article6578593.ece


:lol: classic!
 
1.24 great goal by him.
Anderson also used to score similar goals in Portugal and was a great offensive footballer on YouTube.

But still, I hope we sign him and Anderson will finally score! :smirk:
 
Anderson also used to score similar goals in Portugal and was a great offensive footballer on YouTube.

But still, I hope we sign him and Anderson will finally score! :smirk:

Anderson scored two goals in Portugal.
 
So, that probably was at Gremio.

For example here:



Looking at that clip, makes you wonder if young Ando has really recovered from his broken leg. The old "Not the same, since his injury" jobby.
 
Looking at that clip, makes you wonder if young Ando has really recovered from his broken leg. The old "Not the same, since his injury" jobby.

To be fair, he's played a completely different role for us since his time here. He has to be more disciplined.

Hopefully we'll see more of his attacking flair next season.
 
To be fair, he's played a completely different role for us since his time here. He has to be more disciplined.

Hopefully we'll see more of his attacking flair next season.

T'is very true, I think Sir Alex has tried to utilise or bring on the defensive side of his game.
 
To be fair, he's played a completely different role for us since his time here. He has to be more disciplined.

Hopefully we'll see more of his attacking flair next season.

Exactly right, and it's something that I try to remind people of, if they criticize Anderson for not having improved over the last two years. It really isn't that different — apart from the fact that Anderson was probably better suited — to converting Ronaldinho, at a similar age, in to a central midfielder. In the U17 World Cup, it was the attacking midfielder role, with little or no defensive responsibility, that won him the player of the tournament.

And this is a particularly salient point, given that the change of role is being attempted in England, where most central midfielders are expected to be able to, at the very least, perform the dual role of attacking and defending. Few other countries have a tradition of producing, as well as utilizing, "box-to-box" midfielders — at least, not in the same way that we do.

Fullbacks in Brazil — as evidenced by Fabio and Rafael's competence at attacking, and relative naivety in the other aspects of the game — rarely concentrate on the defensive side of their game until they make it close to the first team, which is why we wanted to bring Fabio and Rafael over to England as soon as they were 18 years old. Just imagine what it is like for an attacking midfielder, who has probably never even been taught the basics, so we are going to have to remain patient if we are to ever see Anderson's full talent on display.

Tim Vickery remarked that at a coaching conference in Brazil, many of the Brazilian coaches were absolutely fascinated by Sir Alex's decision to convert Anderson in to a central midfielder. Ever since the 1982 World Cup, where what many people consider to have been the best Brazilian national team of all-time were shown up for their defensive frailties and over-emphasis on attack, they have used two defensive midfielders in the centre of the pitch, whose sole job is to protect the centre-backs, particularly as the fullbacks are expected to provide the width and spend so much time attacking.

So, ever since that point, all of their attention has been concentrated on producing defensive midfielders, and they were intrigued by the idea of using a player such as Anderson in that position (with a different role, obviously). Many people in Brazil now apparently believe that the era of two defensive midfielders is over, principally because they have been found out by the rest of the world, so they are now looking for another way of playing.
 
Looking at that clip, makes you wonder if young Ando has really recovered from his broken leg. The old "Not the same, since his injury" jobby.

Well he did admit he stopped using skills because that's what got his leg broken

Maybe he's just afraid to show his attacking talents properly again
 
He'll do an Anderson.


He'll be our new defensive midfielder next year.
 
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