''serial goalscorer'' refers to goals specifically, not ''goal contributions'' which also include assists. VDB only achieved double figures in the league once for ajax, those numbers don't look sufficiently high to me to earn the tag of being a serial goalscorer. Considering that this is the dutch league we are talking about which is a much lower level than the premier league. Klaasen achieved double figures four times in the dutch league by comparison.
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''serial goalscorer'' refers to goals specifically, not ''goal contributions'' which also include assists. VDB only achieved double figures in the league once for ajax, those numbers don't look sufficiently high to me to earn the tag of being a serial goalscorer. Considering that this is the dutch league we are talking about which is a much lower level than the premier league. Klaasen achieved double figures four times in the dutch league by comparison.
He is Bruno's backup, no chance of him playing unless Bruno is getting rested. As simple as that.
You think I'm implying he's some sort of genius player because I stated he can score a lot of goals, which is why you're bringing up Klaassen. I was merely describing what type of player he is, and scoring a lot of goals from midfield is part of what he can do "at his best".
Klaassen is also serial goal scorer. So your point is you can score goals in Holland be shit in the PL. I don't disagree. This is like me saying "Klaassen is a serial goal scorer" and you thinking I'm implying he's a God because of it. No, I'm not.
I said "at his best, he's a serial goal scorer". He wasn't at his best when he was young, nor was he in a position to score much playing in the pivot. That leaves you only one or two seasons to look at. Sort it out by position and minutes during VDB peak years and his goal stat is roughly similar to Klaassen's.
And it's fairly ironic you're making this point about Eredivsie goals (weak opposition) and bringing up Klaassen at the same time. VDB has scored more goals in the knockout of stages of the CL.
Disagree. Or, I agree that he was signed as Bruno´s backup, but he´ll be given game time as a nr. 8, maybe already this weekend.
Maybe he was signed as Bruno's backup, but now with the bulking up , they want to turn him as a nr. 8? He seemed to have the same body as Bruno.
Bruno is not very big, and you don´t need to bulk up for fitting into a nr. 10 role. I´m pretty sure Donny´s chance is as one of the holding, or more of an 8, and that´s also where he has been played in preseason.
If he doesn’t get any decent game time against Wolves then it really will be an absolutely baffling signing.
Van Gaal hasn’t selected him for Holland.
Really hope that he gets a start against Wolves in the pivot and doesn't look back!
Ole needs to trust him for 2/3 games. He has given Fred, Matic, James, Lindelof, AWB so many chances yet he gives none to awb
Good decision from LVG. Someone need to knock some sense to Donny's head that he is actually not getting any games so he should either ask explanation to Ole or leave.
Can’t wait to see Donny lining with Ronaldo. Midfield is sorted now. Everyone can relax.
Ole says he has plans for Donny but it feels like he's been saying that for a year, unless the plan is to keep him on the bench.
Yeah, they can play in place of Fred and McT.
If we get Camavinga and Ronaldo then feck it but if we don’t sign a midfielder after pleading poverty 
and a bloated squad 
it’ll be a bit silly signing Ronaldo. I get it. He’ll hit 20 in the league. We might even win something, but I’m not sure if we will with our current midfield woes. What’s the point in Ronaldo when Matic has lost the ball or is taking a half an hour to jog up the field only to knock it back to Maguire.
and a bloated squad it’ll be a bit silly signing Ronaldo. I get it. He’ll hit 20 in the league. We might even win something, but I’m not sure if we will with our current midfield woes. What’s the point in Ronaldo when Matic has lost the ball or is taking a half an hour to jog up the field only to knock it back to Maguire.Get him next to Fred vs Wolves. I know Fred wasnt great against Soton but with McTominay out and Matic no longer up to speed, I'd like to see a pivot of him and Fred.
It's not at all good for us LVG spent 45mins advising him. VDB sulking for a move isn't what we need. Someone needs to sit on our bench and VDB is a quality back up player. I have zero doubts he'll prove to be better than Pereira or Matic were he to get a run of games during an injury crisis.
He'll definitely play against Wolves. Ole needs to reassure him while the window is still open.
He'll definitely play against Wolves. Ole needs to reassure him while the window is still open.
If this man doesn't replace McFred I'll be so bummed. We're wasting his skills here, having him sit on the bench while the Pastor drops a disasterclass after disasterclass.
He was passed over in favor of Guus fecking Til
Hahaha Van Gaal is doing that to piss United off, no other reason. Donny could be banging them in and he still wouldn't pick him.
That's rubbish. Van Gaal always bangs on about players having to be playing regularly to be selected. Van de Beek has no business being selected. If he were banging them in, he would've started the last 2 years, because our alternatives are dire, but he's hardly gotten a game under de Boer either and feck me, if someone with an Ajax background is passed over by De Boer he has to be absolutely atrocious.
I don't really get all the excuses for Donny both at United and Oranje. He just has an extraordinarily limited skill set. He's like one of those little wooden IKEA pins. Great at holding together furniture, but absolutely useless in all other tasks.
Didn't LVG piss off some senior players at United by asking them to play with the u23s for match fitness?
true.
true.Does ole have a daughter?
I think we can now safely say the Ole is lying just to keep his worst case scenario backup from leaving
I struggle to believe that he is worse than Fred or Matic. Just try it out, as plan A is not working clearly
Fred's 5 classes above VDB, but I agree on Matic.
Donny would be a moron if he bought OGS's nonsense, but I don't mind a strong backup/bench. So unless we could recoup a large part of the fee that will allow us to get buy a DM, I'd keep him.
He must look like a competition winner in training. Although that would still be an upgrade on Fred.
Sell.
Questions need to be asked about this.
Ole has his favorites, which is why fecking Martial keeps getting game time, but destroying VDB's career while we continue to destabilize our midfield at our own expense is ridiculous.
Ole has his favorites, which is why fecking Martial keeps getting game time, but destroying VDB's career while we continue to destabilize our midfield at our own expense is ridiculous.
Fred's been terrible for a very long time, one of our worst players over the past 3 seasons or so. There is no way he is heads above any other midfielder we have
They play slightly different ways/roles but hardly. Van de Beek at Ajax was better than anything Fred has shown at United, including against top teams (Real Madrid, Spurs etc)
Ole doesn't know what to do with him and just doesn't trust him. It's just not going to work for him. 100% should have been given a chance today at some point, especially in that second half.
Do you only pay attention to the game when Man Utd have the ball? Because even in this game, he had vital interceptions and was defending all over the pitch, including at left back and right back.
No he wasn't and no he wasn't that good in any of those games. I watched most of those EL/CL games and all the big games vs Fey/Az/PSV in the Eredivisie.
He's a very limited player that has decent work rate, can only play one touch, and is clever around the box.
Martial looked decent when he came on today to be fair to the guy.
Donny I just don't get. If we won't play him then sell and get some money in for other players. He doesn't get a chance it impress or disappoint, just don't get it.
Fernandes was awful today. Absolutely awful.
Yet DVB not even provided with a chance to come on?
I don't get it.
Yet DVB not even provided with a chance to come on?
I don't get it.
He should ask to go on loan
They're completely different positions, Sancho and James were terrible today so made sense to play Martial. VDB would be coming on for Fred, Pogba or Bruno.
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