I think that's true but the weird thing is he looks fine fighting off defenders when he's moving and running. When he receives the ball standing he's the easiest player to fend off in the league. He's too slow scanning around him and often loses the ball. Weird player but as long as he keep scoring and be that focal point in the air, he'll be fine.
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Putting "Plan" at the end of that tweet is an incredible bit of mental gymnastics. Shocking to have two players not complete a pass in a game.
It must be sarcastic?
haha would hope so, didn't feel that way to me reading it.
Transformed himself into a top 3 center forward in the league. What a stud
No he hasn't.
Yeah, sure. Couldn’t make even a single pass in the whole match v city. Watkins, Jota even Jackson this season are all better than him.
wouldn't take any of those chaps over Havertz when you consider his goal contributions (22 in the past 21 matches) and his insane work rate defensively and in the air. Super stud.
That's your reasoning?
I mean, it is not as if the EPL currently has lots of top strikers so I don't see what's wrong with that claim
He is a quality player, anyone still arguing against that is fooling themselves.
Yeah he’s been a great signing for them. It’s left me in a weird spot of really liking Havertz as a player but at the same time get triggered every time he scores. It’s annoying as feck.
No but found that too horrific of a stat for a supposedly top 3 centre forward.
Got a bit of Berbatov about him.
I think you just have to accept that Chelsea went in a different direction. In another timeline, they keep Havertz as a 10 and Palmer never comes.
I think his stats when playing up front and not in midfield are pretty good, and he actually also helps Arsenal a lot both in and out of possession even if he doesn't contribute to a goal. I'd say he's been a huge success for them and is definitely up there in the top 3-5 in the league. Easily better at most things than someone like Jota IMO.
He’s been good for arsenal no doubt. And that’s why I rate Arteta for bringing the best out of him in a CF position. Sign of a good manager right there. But neither he has the tools to be a consistent CF thought out the whole season nor I think he’s better than Jota other than being physical.
There's clips of him making 1 or 2 passes during that game but Opta doesn't count them for some reason. Same for Timber.
2 passes per game and 20+ goal contributions is exactly where we want him
You pissed?
He's really developing into a top striker, sad that he loses all that form when he plays for Germany 
I actually wanted to sell him, and generally was OK with selling him to Arsenal, and I don’t really regret it. He’s a better player now than he was for us, so credit to him and Arteta. My gc’s blow up every time he scores a goal, so it’s impossible for me just go about my day and ignore his success.
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Better than anyone we have
He's crucial to them right now.
Wow what a useful, insightful post
Of all the threads just to go in to have a nice whinge about United.
Any excuse, right?!Of all the threads just to go in to have a nice whinge about United.
One of the most misunderstood and underrated players in the league. For me he is nailed on to be in our starting 11, and if your a rival fan and playing Arsenal, and Havertz is injured or suspended, then its good for you.
His movement, link up play, hold up play, aerial threat, defensive work from the front, and now he is going under the rader as a prolific player. He is already on 6 goals in all competitions. I think 20 in all competitions is low hanging fruit, should be looking to get 25 and even push 30. Plus he is durable and resistant to injury.
His movement, link up play, hold up play, aerial threat, defensive work from the front, and now he is going under the rader as a prolific player. He is already on 6 goals in all competitions. I think 20 in all competitions is low hanging fruit, should be looking to get 25 and even push 30. Plus he is durable and resistant to injury.
So much to like about him. Still maintain he doesn't do anything at a world class level, but he does everything well enough. Perhaps what he strives most at is his level of commitment. Willing to do everything that is needed on the pitch, and the ability to understand what is needed from him. Easily, one of the most likeable players for me. On top if it he has developed a good understanding with Saka, and has earned his trust. A humble player...thought he would end up being an overpriced squad player, but he is a very important player for us. Credit to Edu and Mikel for bringing him in.
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Revelatory player. His work off the ball is so so good. Dream player for Arteta now and that's saying a lot from where he was when he came in.
The German Chris Wood
An illustration of his underrated value, and why Arteta continues to not search for an expensive striker, is how he won the loose ball and played Trossard in for the third goal.
Still thinking it's a purple patch?
Yet he's got more goals this season than all of them
Jackson and Havertz both on 4 goals.
Don't miss him as he was never *this* version for us, but Arsenal have worked out how to get the maximum out of him. Probably the perfect forward for them at this moment in time.
Lines have been drawn now, if he scores and Arsenal win, we go silent. If Arsenal fail to win and he plays a part in that, then we subject him to incredible amounts of online abuse.
Lines have been drawn now, if he scores and Arsenal win, we go silent. If Arsenal fail to win and he plays a part in that, then we subject him to incredible amounts of online abuse.
Quoted me for one specific point and still got it wrong. Well done. Hold that itch abit next time and check the stats first.
So is Watkins but the guy thought nobody would notice.