Where will he even play?
Also, I'm not sure there is any evidence to suggest Arteta has yet improved Jesus as a player (incidentally, that's who I'm assuming Havertz will have to compete with).
Just don‘t play him as a sole #9: problem solved (it‘s just a bonus that he can play there if every other option is injured/out of form). Agreed about Nkunku (who imho also looks better alongside a true striker so let‘s see about that).I think he'll look a much better player in a coherent attacking team.
With Nkunku it really didn't make sense to keep him.
Ødegaard - Rice - Havertz feels really attacking heavy. They will blitz teams no doubt but I can see them being ocassionaly destroyed too (ala Brighton).
Ødegaard - Rice - Havertz feels really attacking heavy. They will blitz teams no doubt but I can see them being ocassionaly destroyed too (ala Brighton).
Very poor player. Arteta will be in for a shock if he's the Xhaka replacement. Can't see him sending Jesus to the bench. He's neither build for the Premier League nor got the necessary skill for a top team. There will be no place to hide for him, too expensive. Could be the beginning of the end for Arteta.
That's very attacking line up. But many people don't understand it's lower mid table teams decide who will finish better position.Also interesting that Ten Hag seems to be going for a similar set-up with Casemiro/Mount/Bruno.
This will be prophetic.Very poor player. Arteta will be in for a shock if he's the Xhaka replacement. Can't see him sending Jesus to the bench. He's neither build for the Premier League nor got the necessary skill for a top team. There will be no place to hide for him, too expensive. Could be the beginning of the end for Arteta.
In your system I would play him on the right side of a 4231 with a different CM signed to play next to Casemiro medium/long term.Also interesting that Ten Hag seems to be going for a similar set-up with Casemiro/Mount/Bruno.
That's very attacking line up. But many people don't understand it's lower mid table teams decide who will finish better position.
Against those teams that line up of midfield will give you so many goals. If score two three goals against those teams you will not worry much about odd slip and ship in one goal here and there.Havertz and mount both played as forward players for us.
I don't know how Kai havertz will be effective in midfield. Many Bundesliga cafe members think he will be very good in that position. But whatever I saw in him when he played for chelsea when he was put under pressure he often lost possession.
Compared to havertz mount has the characters to play in midfield. He is strong in possession and rarely lose ball in possession. Able to carry the ball in crowded area. Good passer long and short.Highest number of chance creator.
Also, bear in mind when you are talking about our left 8 last season, Xhaka was often pushed very high and it was Zinchenko and Partey that was used to help build up the play in the middle park. It's how we maneuver everyone out of possession that will be key, and I'm intrigued what he has in mind for that.
This will age horribly
We'll see.This will be prophetic.
We'll see.
When was the last time a big player for a big team who played quite poorly before his transfer, got his move and turned things around? I remember the likes of Torres, Falcao, Sanchez and so on, it didn't end well at all for the new club.
For havertz,the first touch is great. But he has always had trouble to control the ball in crowded area. This is what keep him from being world class in football.Also, bear in mind when you are talking about our left 8 last season, Xhaka was often pushed very high and it was Zinchenko and Partey that was used to help build up the play in the middle park. It's how we maneuver everyone out of possession that will be key, and I'm intrigued what he has in mind for that.
What's the deal here, has he been played out of position for Chelsea this whole time and he's actually a midfielder?
Bringing in a striker who's mostly flopped to play alongside Odegaard in midfield seems a bit of a risk.
Saliba - GabrielThe 5 - 5 formation with Rice playing as a false CB in to a back 3 out of possesion & 2 inverted fullbacks.
Timber - Rice - Zinchenko
Odegaard - Havertz
Saka - Jesus - Martinelli
I think this is Arteta’s plan for Havertz & Rice.
For havertz,the first touch is great. But he has always had trouble to control the ball in crowded area. This is what keep him from being world class in football.
If you create enough time and space for him to operate he can fulfil his potential and become world class.
His lean frame and height make it difficult for him to fully control the ball due to higher center of gravity. Naturally he will be in disadvantage when struggle to control the ball with opponents pressing him. Will be interesting to see how arsenal utilise him.
he is, although i think he also have looked really good for madrid, tooHe's a very good player and he'll probably show that at Arsenal.
he is, although i think he also have looked really good for madrid, too
"Many players"? Its only Havertz where people are saying this, isn't it?Anyway, as a Chelsea fan I'd be a bit worried that many players are expected to look better in other teams. There's so much talent in this squad but somehow the club struggles to unlock it.
"Many players"? Its only Havertz where people are saying this, isn't it?
I can't really think of any attacking player that lived up to his reputation when he joined you. Ziyech, Joao Felix, Mudryk, Sterling, Lukaku, Werner, Pulisic, ... they all kind of underperformed. Many of them not completely terrible but still didn't really live up to the expectations?
I can't really think of any attacking player that lived up to his reputation when he joined you. Ziyech, Joao Felix, Mudryk, Sterling, Lukaku, Werner, Pulisic, ... they all kind of underperformed. Many of them not completely terrible but still didn't really live up to the expectations?
5-5 formation. What is this madness? It must be a bare minimum of 3 numbers?! Has everything I’ve learned been a lie?!Saliba - GabrielThe 5 - 5 formation with Rice playing as a false CB in to a back 3 out of possesion & 2 inverted fullbacks.
Timber - Rice - Zinchenko
Odegaard - Havertz
Saka - Jesus - Martinelli
I think this is Arteta’s plan for Havertz & Rice.
I am just going to leave this here
I am just going to leave this here
5-5 formation. What is this madness? It must be a bare minimum of 3 numbers?! Has everything I’ve learned been a lie?!
Pep used a 5-5 formation this year;
but he had CB fullbacks that would shift in to a 3 and Stones that would play in midfield during possession.
So in possesion they had 5 at the back & 5 at the front able to attack.
Rice likely would do the opposite to stones at Arsenal where he moves to a 3rd CB from dropping down from midfield except if he actually moved to City, where he would play as the False CB stones is that progresses the ball in to midfield during attack from deep.
Plenty of underperforming players for sure. I thought you meant players who were "expected to look better in other teams", which I've only really noticed being said about Havertz.I can't really think of any attacking player that lived up to his reputation when he joined you. Ziyech, Joao Felix, Mudryk, Sterling, Lukaku, Werner, Pulisic, ... they all kind of underperformed. Many of them not completely terrible but still didn't really live up to the expectations?
While I do think there's a chance he will be good at Arsenal this is a dangerous route to go down.A little unfair. He’s been Chelsea’s best forward player in a dogshit and disassociated team. Not the worst player in a great team.
Pulisic (all be it for an extreme short period) played better with us than he ever did at Dortmund and probably ever will again.I can't really think of any attacking player that lived up to his reputation when he joined you. Ziyech, Joao Felix, Mudryk, Sterling, Lukaku, Werner, Pulisic, ... they all kind of underperformed. Many of them not completely terrible but still didn't really live up to the expectations?
