Donald Trump - All things impeachment.... | Acquitted in the Senate
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There's not just a smoking gun but a blast crater of evidence out there.
It also looks like there’s a distinct pattern of behaviour as he’s tried the same tactic with a number of countries and they’ve locked all evidence in their code-word level security system which they’ve also just increased security on to ensure there is no leaks from it.
Yeah I can't see this going anywhere but the supreme court in an epic legislative vs executive branch battle. One can only hope the supreme court judges don't have the same idolatry reverence for executive privilege like Barr does.
Same goes for his taxes. Congress and the American people have a right to know if there is corruption within the government and Congress have a duty to investigate and root out any corrupt officials.
He promised to drain the swamp
Impossible to drain a large swamp when you’re neck deep in the centre of it.
Feck those guys, I hope you get it all sorted buddy and they get a good ass kicking at work.
so whats a realistic timeline on this playing out... will it be something that gets sorted one way or the other in the next few months - or does it drag into next year (and possibly over the election?)
I'm asking you. Where they have went wrong thus far in the current situation (not Mueller probe). Why are you asking me back the question.
By Monday they should have made the effort to have watched those videos for themselves and acted on what they saw. Are you working with MAGAs by any chance? If your manager is a Trump fan I doubt you’ll get much joy but I do hope they do something about the behaviour of their workers. No harm in asking them to watch the videos with you. What is your company like....as far as management is concerned?
0% chance that happened. The piss tape is more believable.
I'm not really sure because I've only been with them a short time. Tbh if they say that they've seen it and they're still there then it might be time to pull out the race card. I'm not stupid. I went to the bathroom before the actual threat of violence came and had turned on the voice recorder on my phone. So I have them saying it.
I think having it turned on when they tell me that they watched it might be something a lawyer might like to see?
Uh-huh as in you don't believe that it happene ?
Not for one second.
So uh - huh as in us a lawyer would have a field day with that type of thing.
I thought clowns were supposed to bring laughter? feck me.
I've no idea what this means but cool.
Sure Donald. Whatever you say.
I think he meant he doesn't believe you for one second.
It must be fun being his lawyer. Maybe Rudy went insane after spending enough time around him.
He should go through the proper channels to do this. Giuliani is not what I would say is a proper channel. More like intelligence agency to intelligence agency. Withholding aid is an underhand way to go about things and sounds as if he’s saying “one way or another (legit or made up) find me some dirt on Biden or you don’t get the money.
This is something that the Vox podcast was discussing yesterday. Suppose you are a banana republic that wants to curry favour from US government and get some money, what's stopping you from making up shit on Biden or whoever else is his opposition in 2020? The justice department is completely complicit and Barr would do anything to start a prosecution just before the election.
Just as I posted this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/world/europe/ukraine-biden-burisma.html
Shit hits the fan.
Exactly. Even China who is supposed to be resuming trade talks next week has had overtures to dig up dirt. Their economy has been blasted just as much as ours with this trade war. If they know trump could give them billions in concessions and relief just for some possible made up crap to sling at Biden. Why in the world would they not do it?
Ukraine is entirely dependent on our support and aid to hold Russia off of course they will say they are investigating Biden after it has been made ABUNDANTLY clear to them they must do it for continued support in this administration. That is why its a big deal. That is why it isn't a "perfect call".
You hear the trump administration and the supporters saying no quid pro quo. BS. Asking China to help you when you are holding a trade war over their heads is the definition of quid pro quo. And being so obvious as to use your PERSONAL lawyer to "look into" these things is just being blatant.
Surely now this is just a step or two away from a proper dictatorship in the "land of freedom". I can so easily see him disagreeing with the next election he loses citing non-existent voting fraud or whatever they can come up with and just asking for redoing the election or just canceling that election results altogether.
Michael Cohen said in his testimony that anyone expecting a peaceful transition of power if Trump loses the next election is being delusional.
The difference is that he is now doing this as US president.
Its just a disgrace. I've posted this on here before, but Americans really are bone idle. You would think mass protests would be taking place, but people are too busy sat on their backsides and just complaining about it on Twitter.
perhaps the same will happen if they pass a law to take automatic weapons off people and it wont be the mass rallies / bloodbaths because people cant be arsed?
Yes all it needs are mass protests outside the WH with people loudly holding up signs saying “Trump Resign” or some such thing. Carry that on until he goes. He’ll hate it.
All that’s happening now is that folks are saying “well I’m doing ok financially” and never looking at the bigger picture. Never looking at Trump’s behaviour, never looking at the state of the country, never looking how he is affecting fellow Americans and other citizens, never looking at how he is affecting the rest of the world. It’s a very “I’m alright Jack’ type of country with people too wrapped up in themselves. If it wasn’t then Trump wouldn’t still be there.
That'll do the trick.
Better than doing nothing because doing nothing won’t work. Well it hasn’t up to now anyway.
Yep, just hold up some signs outside his office, he'll resign soon enough.
Voting is the "something". Impeachment will not happen. GOP and Mitch will not allow it no matter what they say or don't say. GOP have literally had a national campaign to hoard power regardless of the changing demographics including voter suppression and gerrymandering. The very idea that anyone thinks they will suddenly "do the right thing" and stand up to blatant trump corruption is silly.
Pelosi was right to be reticent and cautious on impeachment. But, now its so blatant and obvious hes literally asking China on live TV right before they meet for trade talks to get him some dirt to use politically. The inquiry is necessary.
But, what is even more necessary is voters showing up in 2020. His supporters will. He's got a massive war chest to spend on lies and conspiracy theory ads on Facebook. He will have the continued propaganda of Fox News save the few Shep Shepard and Chris Wallace trying to break through the trash on their own network.
The only way to combat that is vote him out. All the petty minor squabbles with who the Democratic candidate will be have to be put aside for the eventual nominee. If not we deserve trump.
Just get a blow up thing of Trump dressed as a baby. He's done for.
Bone idle tweets are less likely to incite a Trump-voting reaction in the law and order well off suburbia than mass protest.
He will build a moot around the White House and fill it with snakes and gators. Then he will build concession stands selling covfefe and hamberders for the protesters.
Impeachment may well happen because that is voted on in the House, not the Senate. The Senate finds him guilty/not guilty which means removal if he’s found guilty on any of the charges. Can’t see that happening. Then again I can’t see Trump getting to the voting stage either. The stress is telling on him now and the longer this goes on the worse he will get.
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