Dippers to top the league by New Year?

Overall quality of the squad is just one of the many factors though, like Rodgers proved in 2013/2014. Confidence, style of play and knowing what's expectef of you is equally as important, just like many other things. United's overall quality is without question better than ours yet we're playing better football at the moment.

Mignolet has kept the most clean sheets in the Premier League in 2015, yes he isn't close to the level of Cech or De Gea but all in all he's a good goalkeeper. Arsenal's midfield might be better but what does that get you if Coquelin, Ramsey, Cazorla and Wilshere are all out injured for several months (and that's ignoring Alexis, Walcott and Ox)? On top of that, our strikers options are the best in the league imo, with only City's arguably on par thanks to Aguero's brilliance.

It'd be down to the incompetence of the other contenders if we end up challenging for the title (which I don't think we will), but a top four finish is certainly a possibility this season and that's what we should be aiming for - it was the objective before the season and a couple of good results in a row shouldn't change that one bit.

I agree.

I don't agree that you have the best attacking options in the league. Attacking options don't consist of strikers alone. City have far more attacking options than you in the form of Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne and Aguero.
 
I agree.

I don't agree that you have the best attacking options in the league. Attacking options don't consist of strikers alone. City have far more attacking options than you in the form of Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne and Aguero.
I didn't talk about attacking option, I said strikers options, which consist of players who can play as a striker. For Liverpool, that's Benteke/Firmino/Sturridge/Ings/Origi and that's by far and away the best in the league, imo. I agree that City has better attacking options, no doubt about that.
 
I didn't talk about attacking option, I said strikers options, which consist of players who can play as a striker. For Liverpool, that's Benteke/Firmino/Sturridge/Ings/Origi and that's by far and away the best in the league, imo. I agree that City has better attacking options, no doubt about that.

Yes, I know. I should have phrased my response better than I did. My point was that the attacking options City have makes the point about strikers moot. Their composition of attacking midfield, left wing, right wing and striker is much more important. Aguero and Silva alone is a combination that will win the league if they're fit for enough games. Similarly, I think kompany and Otamendi is a partnership of great importance for them.
 
Yes, I know. I should have phrased my response better than I did. My point was that the attacking options City have makes the point about strikers moot. Their composition of attacking midfield, left wing, right wing and striker is much more important. Aguero and Silva alone is a combination that will win the league if they're fit for enough games. Similarly, I think kompany and Otamendi is a partnership of great importance for them.
Doesn't matter where they play; it matters if they score goals. A fit inform Liverpool team is as capable if not more capable of scoring goals
 
Why is there a thread for this? They've hit a purple patch, and Klopp's ideas are obviously bearing some fruit, but they certainly aren't world-beaters because of it. Everything came off for them against Southampton, and Steklenburg had a shocker for two of the first three goals. Moreno and Origi both scored with unlikely efforts.

I don't read much into that.
Klopp is idolised here, van Gaal is despised. Pretty simple.
 
Well, LvG says it's a process and that it takes 3 seasons to challenge for/win a league so, I assume it'll be the same for Klopp.

Even Klopp stated that his target is to win the league in the next 4 seasons.
Personally, I think LFC are having a purple patch under a new manager - that's all.
Players are trying to impress the new manager, who is quite charismatic.
In a few months, they will revert back to their true level and at that time, we shall be able to see what that true level is.
Ranieri @ LCFC is also enjoying a decent honeymoon period, which I expect to peter our soon.

I think realistically, LCFC and LFC will be competing for 5th or 6th place. Anything higher would be very bonus.
 
Even Klopp stated that his target is to win the league in the next 4 seasons.
Personally, I think LFC are having a purple patch under a new manager - that's all.
Players are trying to impress the new manager, who is quite charismatic.
In a few months, they will revert back to their true level and at that time, we shall be able to see what that true level is.
Ranieri @ LCFC is also enjoying a decent honeymoon period, which I expect to peter our soon.

I think realistically, LCFC and LFC will be competing for 5th or 6th place. Anything higher would be very bonus.

Not good enough, I want the title now!

Get the FA on the phone!
 
If they buy well in January they might have a chance. For now it's

For them to have a realistic chance of winning the league this season, they'd need to buy Neymar, Suarez and Messi, in early January.
I just can't see them winning the league from such a lowly position.
And as someone stated earlier, we have scored more points than LFC, in our last 6 league games. In other words, we are actually pulling away from them.
 
For them to have a realistic chance of winning the league this season, they'd need to buy Neymar, Suarez and Messi, in early January.
I just can't see them winning the league from such a lowly position.
And as someone stated earlier, we have scored more points than LFC, in our last 6 league games. In other words, we are actually pulling away from them.
Sometimes one has to wonder if posters even bother to check their facts before they post.

Forget position - we are 6 points off the top with just over 1/3 of the season played. Any of the top 10 could win it if they went on a run, or their form improved on that which put them in their current position. I'm as certain as the bookies (odds on with some I heard) we'll get Top 4 barring an horrendous run of injuries, we can challenge for the title if City continue to be as inconsistent as they are (if not they'll win it) and if we maintain, or even slightly improve on, our most current form. This is the most open league for years, I doubt even 76 pts will be needed to win it (again with the City proviso).

As for current form - well United have had 3 x 0-0 draws at home (all matches) in their last 5 at OT, whereas Liverpool under Rodgers had 1 win in his last 9 matches (H to Villa), however under Klopp that is 6 wins and just 1 defeat in 11 (coming in cold midseason and trying to get to know the team and have them make substantial changes in formation and tactics - whereas other managers have all had the benefit of a pre-season and should have them playing the way they want them to). Now you tell me if we can't continue that improvement as players come back from injury and they all adapt to Klopp's demands, and then consider if that will not be Top 4 or better form.

You might not enjoy this but worth a read :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ons-Liverpool-can-win-the-Premier-League.html
 
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Sometimes one has to wonder if posters even bother to check their facts before they post.

Forget position - we are 6 points off the top with just over 1/3 of the season played. Any of the top 10 could win it if they went on a run, or their form improved on that which put them in their current position. I'm as certain as the bookies (odds on with some I heard) we'll get Top 4 barring an horrendous run of injuries, we can challenge for the title if City continue to be as inconsistent as they are (if not they'll win it) and if we maintain, or even slightly improve on, our most current form. This is the most open league for years, I doubt even 76 pts will be needed to win it (again with the City proviso).

As for current form - well United have had 3 x 0-0 draws at home (all matches) in their last 5 at OT, whereas Liverpool under Rodgers had 1 win in his last 9 matches (H to Villa), however under Klopp that is 6 wins and just 1 defeat in 11 (coming in cold midseason and trying to get to know the team and have them make substantial changes in formation and tactics - whereas other managers have all had the benefit of a pre-season and should have them playing the way they want them to). Now you tell me if we can't continue that improvement as players come back from injury and they all adapt to Klopp's demands, and then consider if that will not be Top 4 or better form.

You might not enjoy this but worth a read :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ons-Liverpool-can-win-the-Premier-League.html

There's so much spin in all of this. From goals scored to counting injuries (no mention of United's, Arsenal's and City's when the return of Silva alone will be hugely important for City), with fixture-list gazing thrown in. As far as winning the title is concerned, points on the board are all that count. The rest is media hype and speculation. Put the run together and then talk.
 
Just woke up. Have they won the league yet? Has Klopp been crowned the king of England yet?
 
Current form & the bedwetting over Klopp isn't making me any more fond of them, that's for sure. Sooner they start losing a couple of games, things will be all the better.

Not super worried atm, but having said that, I maybe wouldn't mind 'em arranging that loan for Stevie, just to be on the safe side, :).
 
Even Klopp stated that his target is to win the league in the next 4 seasons.
Do you refer to his 1st presser? If so, you can be 99.9% sure he didn't mean title but trophy. The German word for trophy is "Titel", so he used a false friend.

It wouldn't surprise me if Liverpool makes it into the top 4 this season.
 
IIRC there's only been one or two teams, that haven't gone on to win the league when top at Christmas/New Year, so that's hope the thread title isn't correct.
 
We should be worried, a win tomorrow and they're only 3 points behind us.

And they are playing miles better than us.

I just can't see us finishing ahead of them, and with manager they have, it could be a trend that continues for a long time.
 
It's just Liverpool, don't worry. They'll find a way to feck it up, even Klopp can't change that. They could get in top 4, no way are they gonna win the title though.
 
It's just Liverpool, don't worry. They'll find a way to feck it up, even Klopp can't change that. They could get in top 4, no way are they gonna win the title though.

Feck it, I'm putting a large sum of money on them to finish ahead of us, just to soften the blow when it actually happens. Doubt I'll be able find any decent odds though...
 
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Theyve got a really good run coming up. With the way teams are playing, and them being in form, its a good reason for their fans to be optimistic.
 
I'm very worried. If they overtake us it'll prove that LVG's "team in transition" excuse is a load of bullshit.
 
You can't win the League with Skrtel & Mignolet in your team, it just ain't possible.
 
I'm very worried. If they overtake us it'll prove that LVG's "team in transition" excuse is a load of bullshit.

They don't need to do that to prove that it is nonsense. They are doing basically as well under Klopp as United result wise while actually doing better in terms of performances.

EDIT: They won't win the league, though. They will struggle too much vs. the smaller sides because they lack the tools to break them down.
 
They don't need to do that to prove that it is nonsense. They are doing basically as well under Klopp as United result wise while actually doing better in terms of performances.

EDIT: They won't win the league, though. They will struggle too much vs. the smaller sides because they lack the tools to break them down.
Oh I agree. I just think it would be the final nail in the coffin for LVG.
 
No reason why they can't win it this season. There's no clear favourite, if anything they've a better chance than we do.
 
They'll surely tonk Newcastle tomorrow which puts them right in the title mix, not just the top 4 chase. City's amazing ability to spend £75M on CB's in the last year and still suck at defending without Kompany is going to give everyone in the hunt a chance.
 
yeah, this citing of Traore/Biscan/Dudek pretty much destroys my Migs/Skrtel theory, :(

Begins. To. Worry. A Bit.
 
The inconsistent nature gives them a real chance of making the top 4. The reason they have a real chance is that there is clear improvement each week in various facets of their play. Even in the games they lost there were improvements in some aspect of their play.
One of the things that is a sign of things to come is not whether or not a team wins games but if they improve their game. They are the single most improved side and still improving side in the EPL. People scoffing at them having a chance at making the top 4 must be blind.