Yeah that's definitely what will happen. I think it's just the attacking intent he showed that has got people going mad. Valencia will always pause and look around instead of flying at his man. Dalot didn't do that for the most part.
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Yeah that's definitely what will happen. I think it's just the attacking intent he showed that has got people going mad. Valencia will always pause and look around instead of flying at his man. Dalot didn't do that for the most part.
Tony is still a decent RB. Dominates his flank and defensively solid. The problem with Valencia is sort of hard to explain. He sees a lot of the ball in attacking areas but creates almost nothing. And with us not having top winger on that side, it makes matters worse.
He gets the ball in acres of space but won't take on his man or won't hit a cross early enough. By the time he's decided what to do, defence is already in shape.
The problem he and other modern fullbacks normaly have now when they have quality is that they are much more able on offensive movements than being defensively disciplined. 2 years ago if you had the chance to read the Valencia Forum regarding Cancelo any Valencia fan wanted him out because he was suspect regarding the defensive duties. Today at Juve and in Italy he is praised for everything he does. He needs time, Mourinho can teach him, don't know if he will have much more time to do that, but that is another matter...
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Was impressive tonight but will be understudy to TV in the Prem. CL has lots of space which is ideal for his style of play and abilities. He does look to have a good cross on him though something we've missed from the right wingback for a while. Be interesting to see if he has a shot in him too like Valencia on occasion
After tonight, he is simly Diogo DaGOAT.
That game against CF America in pre-season with Schneiderlin also scoring iirc..He was excellent when everyone else was mediocre and mediocre when the rest of them improved. Good overall in his first start for the club. Some of the attacking play and crosses were particularly impressive. Would love it if he can take over from Valencia by the end of the season.
I think Dalot has created history -- the first Full Back who has integrated stepovers as part of his arsenal. I have never seen an FB doing so many stepovers. Is that a Portuguese thing?
And are we sure he is 19 and not some African age thing? He is built, speaks, plays and behaves much more mature than his '19'.
And are we sure he is 19 and not some African age thing? He is built, speaks, plays and behaves much more mature than his '19'.
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He used to love to take on his man to the outside. Every defender in the league he was going to take them wide, and none of them could stop him. And if they did, it would be out for a corner or a throw for us. You're right though, now he just slows everything down and typically just passes it back to a midfielder and rarely tries to take on his man anymore...
Thought he was great going forward, but got skinned a couple of times. Still, a very impressive debut. A
Whatever he does on the pitch this season as he settles I don’t care. This guy is going to be world class in his position simply based on his personality and character. He’s clearly got the potential and I’d bet my savings on him reaching it to the full. You wish every young player had the same mental tools
His cross for offside goal was very good, he just whipped it rather than floating it like Valencia does.
It was his debut and after his first proper game in 4-5 months, looked good. At least the signs are very good.
It was his debut and after his first proper game in 4-5 months, looked good. At least the signs are very good.
Loses his footing twice at least, and I'm not convinced with his defending yet. Doubt he's ready for EPL this soon.
Impressive attacking awareness and the eye for passes but not yet consistency of his delivery.
Impressive attacking awareness and the eye for passes but not yet consistency of his delivery.
Okay, that's harsh assessment.
He slipped because of the pitch.
I think Dalot has created history -- the first Full Back who has integrated stepovers as part of his arsenal. I have never seen an FB doing so many stepovers. Is that a Portuguese thing?
And are we sure he is 19 and not some African age thing? He is built, speaks, plays and behaves much more mature than his '19'.
That's nothing. Alex Buttner did them in his own half
Really enjoyed watching him play last night - very direct and his crossing was inconsistent but showed his ability.
You never saw Phil Neville bombing down our left side, he loved a stepover.I think Dalot has created history -- the first Full Back who has integrated stepovers as part of his arsenal. I have never seen an FB doing so many stepovers. Is that a Portuguese thing?
And are we sure he is 19 and not some African age thing? He is built, speaks, plays and behaves much more mature than his '19'.
Very good debut last night. Excellent delivery from wide, which has really been Valencia's biggest weakness since he moved to fullback. As with any youngster, defensively he was good but not perfect.
I'd like to see him used in rotation with Valencia this season and get a decent amount of game time. Looks a good prospect for us.
I'd like to see him used in rotation with Valencia this season and get a decent amount of game time. Looks a good prospect for us.
That's nothing. Alex Buttner did them in his own half
hahaha forgot about him! yet another fergie punt to nothing...
I remember watching us last year and thinking how badly we needed new ideas on the right-wing. Valencia has been a great player over the years but he's now all too predictable going down the right. I'm glad it looks like we've got ourselves a real player in Dalot, someone who can challenge for the RB spot and eventually phase Valencia out who is pushing mid-thirties now.
I love Valencia but his crossing has never been great, always likes to get square on before a cross giving the opposition a chance to get back into position and slowing it down somewhat. Dalot looks like he'll be able to stretch things down the right a lot more naturally and looks like he has a couple more ideas on how to beat his man.
Looking forward to seeing how he develops this year.
I love Valencia but his crossing has never been great, always likes to get square on before a cross giving the opposition a chance to get back into position and slowing it down somewhat. Dalot looks like he'll be able to stretch things down the right a lot more naturally and looks like he has a couple more ideas on how to beat his man.
Looking forward to seeing how he develops this year.
Great post. I think Valencia has been a good right back for us the last few years, one of the best in the league in fact and the slating he gets by fans is ridiculous.
However, he is in the twilight of his career now, he certainly shouldnt be the captain and as you say, ironically as he was a winger, he does seem to be missing in the attacking aspect of a full back which is compounded by the fact we dont really have right sided players that are proper wingers to run at defenders.
I think what we did in the transfer market full back wise was the one thing we got spot on. I was in a minority that thought Shaw should get another chance this season to prove himself as ability wise he is just as good as any left back we were linked with e.g Tierney. I also thought Young and Valencia are good enough for another season and Dalot sounded like he was talented enough to compete for a place THIS season. Only a handful of games for Shaw and one for Dalot but potentially that is a decade of very good full backs for the club, especially with Ethan Laird to come as well that can play either position.
Our failure to sign a quality centre back already has at times and will continue to haunt us this season I feel though
Imagine how fun that wing could be with a winger as well.
I might be jumping the gun, but Dalot is the most exciting to happen to us in a long while.
How I've missed the right wing.
I might be jumping the gun, but Dalot is the most exciting to happen to us in a long while.
How I've missed the right wing.
What about converting him as a right winger ?
I don't think his crossing was too bad. I think we need better movement in the box. Looked to get it in early. Was quick. Good debut.
Back up to who? Valencia is still here, as is Dalot. And he’s behind both, evidently. Just sell him.
I think Dalot has created history -- the first Full Back who has integrated stepovers as part of his arsenal. I have never seen an FB doing so many stepovers. Is that a Portuguese thing?
And are we sure he is 19 and not some African age thing? He is built, speaks, plays and behaves much more mature than his '19'.
You have obviously never seen Phil Neville then!
When he is in training with the English girls team? Our English Ronaldo.
I watched his interview and he seems very mature for his age. I hope to see more of him this year. Just depends on Jose being bold enough to bring him in ahead of Valencia. I think it's just a matter of time.
My eyes!
Bring him on this weekend when we have hopefully scored a goal or two and are leading. If he holds his own in the league, would be a no-brainer to start him over Valencia.
No no no. None of these converting thing. I wouldn't even want him to play anywhere other than RB.
We play a 433 though, so no chance.
It seems like we tried in the summer. Nobody wanted to pay up for him, and that's understandable. His contract is up next summer. Anyone can have him for free then. I doubt clubs will be falling over themselves to grab him.
I was encouraged by his 90 minute showing yesterday. As some have said already I'd like to see him as an understudy in the PL while getting games in cups, including CL group matches.
Excellent performance, you could see the rhythm and the cadence of the right flank operation with a natural fullback who knows the heartbeat of the position. Refreshing change from the rapidly declining Valencia. Hopefully he continues to grow into the role and gets better and better.
Decent and defensively solid'ish is probably how I would describe it. You are correct with the 'sort of hard to explain part' just seeing a natural fullback play on the right (that isn't poor old Darmian) gives the same feeling when Ibrahimovic was in the team and then Lukaku came. "Ohhhh yeah! I get it now, he can actually move and function with the supplementing faster players we have and it expands our game!" It is the same with Valencia. You can see Valencia has little to no idea how to create tempo on the flanks and integrate with the attack and the defense. Hard one to define and explain, I got that feeling above watching Dalot. "Oh right, he just has the IQ to fit nicely into the cadence of the attack and defense and it makes our whole system function better!"
Decent and defensively solid'ish is probably how I would describe it. You are correct with the 'sort of hard to explain part' just seeing a natural fullback play on the right (that isn't poor old Darmian) gives the same feeling when Ibrahimovic was in the team and then Lukaku came. "Ohhhh yeah! I get it now, he can actually move and function with the supplementing faster players we have and it expands our game!" It is the same with Valencia. You can see Valencia has little to no idea how to create tempo on the flanks and integrate with the attack and the defense. Hard one to define and explain, I got that feeling above watching Dalot. "Oh right, he just has the IQ to fit nicely into the cadence of the attack and defense and it makes our whole system function better!"
Because we apparently decided he was worth 20m or something. Should have taken the offer on the table. Especially as we signed Dalot so early too.
I agree. Should have taken anything. We're not going to play him, except maybe in the League Cup (that's the only time he really made consistent appearances last season, in addition to his 8 sporadic PL appearances). He barely played last year, he'll barely play this year. You'd think even for the player's sake they'd release him, rather than let him waste another of his peak years. They're going to lose him for nothing next summer anyway, and they have to pay him for another year.
Defensive issues massively overstated. Slipped a couple of times but typically coped with any threat.
Which I would blame on the pitch.
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