I love him so much. Defending him to the absolute hilt for the last two years makes his form all the more sweeter.
Dimitar Berbatov | 2010/11 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
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I thought his second goal was great.
As a poster said above, he's shown a lot more hunger this season, and you could see that with this goal. You just knew that he was going to twang it into the net, whereas the Berbatov of the past would have gone for some obscure pass to Rooney.
As a poster said above, he's shown a lot more hunger this season, and you could see that with this goal. You just knew that he was going to twang it into the net, whereas the Berbatov of the past would have gone for some obscure pass to Rooney.
It's simple: he's (finally) being played further up the pitch. When he does that, and gets decent service, he scores goals. There's no magic miracle here.
his control has always been excellent, but he has also added a lot more effort to his game.
Finally lets not forget the contribution of Rooney. Rooney really does bring the entire team to a different level.
Finally lets not forget the contribution of Rooney. Rooney really does bring the entire team to a different level.
Rooney was better than Berbatov against Birmingham.
Unlike when Tevez was his main competitor instead of Hernandez and Owen?
Well he was always going to need a season to settle. We've all been told that a million times by everybody. And Tevez's league form till the end of the season, when he did oust Berbatov, wasnt very good. Regardless Berbatov was clearly first choice no matter what, for a long time in his first season.
Had Berbatov not have done better than in previous seasons, Hernandez's goalscoring form could well have seen him given a run in the side instead.
I must say, as a fellow striker, that this season Berba is enjoying being the main man and taking a full advantage of it
Much like Tevez at City at the moment
Unfortunately for the strikers at any club, the modern game allows only one on the pitch in the popular nowadays 4-5-1/4-3-3
Thank goodness Rooney is so versatile and could play just about anywhere. Berba seems to thrive when Wayne is on the pitch
Much like Tevez at City at the moment
Unfortunately for the strikers at any club, the modern game allows only one on the pitch in the popular nowadays 4-5-1/4-3-3
Thank goodness Rooney is so versatile and could play just about anywhere. Berba seems to thrive when Wayne is on the pitch
He pretty made two goals defending from the front. His control is just out of the world and the bugger can literally walk away with the ball from a crowd of players.
Its funny how opinions change in a matter of months.
Its funny how opinions change in a matter of months.
He's always has top class ability, he's putting it together better now IMO. There were more moments before this season where his great skills would lead to nothing or he would not be on the same wavelength as his team mates. Of coures he's being more clinical which a striker should be, but even otherwise he is making his good work count rather than let it be in vain.
You're so full of shit it's frightening, it really is.
Is now emerging as our standout player of the season. If he carries this on, it will be his name that is so closely associated with winning our historic no 19. And that would give him Legend status, deserved or otherwise.
Back to your best I see. A sentence to insult over a paragraph to dispute an argument.
he might just be surpassing Nani right now
Got to love the lad, he's playing to his potential
In the next big game, Sir Alex has a wonderful headache
Got to love the lad, he's playing to his potential
In the next big game, Sir Alex has a wonderful headache
I dont see how it's a headache, I dont see how it is that complicated either, just shove Rooney out to the left like he has been doing to good effect for the past 5 years solves all those problems.
As far as you and Berbatov go, words fail me, they really do.
Berb upfront, Nani, Rooney and Anderson just behind with Carrick/Fletcher doing the dirty work. Problem solved (until Valencia comes back obviously).
Berbatov really has raised his game significantly, if we're looking for a goal him and Nani are the first to spring to mind. But... but... we're in decline and our players are not good enough!
He has now scored a hattrick in 3 different league game this season to put him alongside scoring legends such as RVN and Shearer.
If he scored another hattrick in a league game, will he be the first player to do it?
If he scored another hattrick in a league game, will he be the first player to do it?
Shearer scored five in 95/96.
I dare say they fail you in general
Not to read too much into it, but Eric Cantona, after his first three seasons at United, had 39 league goals for us. Berbatov has reached 39 in a little over two and a half.
Pleased for him but to put into perspective, he's scored 11 of his league goals (if my maths is right) in 3 league games and thats the only thing he has to be wary of. His performances have been good but hopefully the goals keep flowing for him.
38 by my counts?! Doesn't really matter, if he stays fit, he'll have 25+ in the league alone this season.
Only Ronaldo has managed to score 25+ league goals in open play.
In his best season, RVN scored 25 PL goals but several were from pens. Rooney scored 26 last season, 4 from pens.
25 PL goals in open play would be some achievment for Berbatov.
In his best season, RVN scored 25 PL goals but several were from pens. Rooney scored 26 last season, 4 from pens.
25 PL goals in open play would be some achievment for Berbatov.
Will really try not to read into but are you saying Berbatov may have surpassed Eric?
Really?
Nope, 9 in his first season, 12 in his second, 17 so far this.
Dude. Come on. I specifically said not to read too much into it. It's just an interesting little tidbit. Obviously goals don't show the full story. Which is interesting because a lack of goals was something levelled against Berba in his first couple of seasons even though he was contributing well overall.
No chance. Don't know if you're just trying to be controversial, but that was a stunning game from Berbatov, even without the hattrick.
'kin hell though...the difference between that Birmingham team that we saw away from home and the one we saw yesterday was staggering. The amount of room they gave Nani, in particular, was embarassing. I mean, if you're coming up against the potential player of the season, the best thing to do is not to give him 20 yards of space all round him every time he gets the ball.
There's definitely mileage in the knee injury clearing up theory - he seems far less constricted in his movement.
I hope not.
Worth remembering Eric was signed deep into one of those seasons(92/93) and also missed another half of one(94/95) through suspension and also had a five game ban in his one full season(93/94) from that sample of seasons. You would have to go get the actual appearance stats for both as well as the goal stats to make a fair comparison. I could be wrong but Eric was generally 1 goal every 2 games for United in the league until his final season.
Just checked and from 92-95 Eric played 77 league games and scored 39 league goals. He was a one in two player in the league which is an excellent record for someone who also was the team's main creative player. If you add 95/96 onto this as well he had played 107 league games and scored 53 goals so again pretty much one goal in every two games was his average. It's only his final season which takes him out of that average when he was nowhere near his best.
Shit. I have blindly accepted wikipedia for the last time.
Back to school for you Feeky.
One of the reasons why I said not to read to much into it. I think the appearance stats are roughly the same.
Eric was 64:143 in goals:games. Goal every 2.23 league games. Berbatov is 38:83. Goal every 2.18 league games.
Just checked the stats and re-edited my post. Don't know Berbas. Eric was generally a one goal every two games player in the league which is excellent. I don't know what Berba is but I don't he would be close to one in two.
Cantona 64 goals in 141 starts (+ 1 sub appears)
Berbatov 38 goals in 71 starts (+ 12 sub appears)
Statistically, Berbatov is doing slightly better in the league.
Berbatov 38 goals in 71 starts (+ 12 sub appears)
Statistically, Berbatov is doing slightly better in the league.
Cheers for that, I only had appearances. Where did you find a source for starts?
Nice one. Berba's record of 38 goals from 71 league starts (1 every 1.868 starts) is better than Cantona (1 every 2.2), Rooney (1 every 1.98) and Ronaldo (1 every 1.87).
I'm Pleased to see berbatov leading the line with Rooney playing dee. This is what I expected to happen when berbatov first signed for us, and the whole "role reversal" Of sorts with him and Rooney did confuse me. I'm glad to see them both playing in what I regard as their natural positions, and looking like they could form a very strong partnership.
Interesting thing about Berba is he's never been prolific in the PL even for Tottenham where it is widely accepted that he was brilliant. A lot of his great numbers were padded by the Europa League.
06/07. 12 in 33
07/08. 15 in 36
United
08/09. 9 in 31
09/10. 12 in 33
10/11. 17 in 19
So if anything this season is an anomaly in terms of his goal scoring in the PL and already by far his most prolific. He's always been less than a 1 in 2 striker in that sense. Seeing his partnership with Keane I think it is quite obvious that SAF bought him more for his link up and ability to produce that bit of magic more than his out an out goal scoring.
06/07. 12 in 33
07/08. 15 in 36
United
08/09. 9 in 31
09/10. 12 in 33
10/11. 17 in 19
So if anything this season is an anomaly in terms of his goal scoring in the PL and already by far his most prolific. He's always been less than a 1 in 2 striker in that sense. Seeing his partnership with Keane I think it is quite obvious that SAF bought him more for his link up and ability to produce that bit of magic more than his out an out goal scoring.
i was a doubter of berba and at time still he frustrates, but am more then happy if he keeps proving me wrong.
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