Dimitar Berbatov | 2010/11 Performances

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Berbatov played on the left of the attacking three today for a fair amount of the game, I think we could do a lot worse than playing Rooney/Berbatov/Nani as the front three against Liverpool with a dose of swapping and switching going on.
 
I might be seeing things, but his agility seems to be better this season. His knee was obviously hampering him last season, I suspect he played through the pain the entire spring.

A few more performances like this and the semblemce between himself and Eric doesn't seem as daft. The finish today reeked of confidence and arrogance ala Eric.
 
The Berba bashers, about 75% of the Caf must feel a bit disillusioned at the moment.

Doubt thats true some people are over sensitive. I have praised Berbatov for his performances against Newcastle, West Ham and again today but thought he was poor vs Fulham and said so and was probably labelled a Berbatov basher! Anyway Excellent from Berbatov today he is looking like a 30 million pound player at the minute hope he keeps it up. I think the run of games is the key point playing knowing your going to start the next match must be a boost.
 
I might be seeing things, but his agility seems to be better this season. His knee was obviously hampering mid season last year, I suspect he played through the pain the entire spring.

A few more performances like this and the semblemce between himself and Eric doesn't seem as daft. The finish today reeked of confidence and arrogance ala Eric.

Reminded me of Ole's 3-0 goal against Reading at the Majeski in the FA Cup, 06-07... though not whipped as solidly... Still, clever finish.
 
Play Rooney left if we must got 4-3-3. Nani on the right.

Giggs looked a bit under-par today.


Yeah a 4-3-3 of Nani/Berbatov/Rooney as the forwards would be a fantastic sight, just dont see Fergie ever playing Rooney wide again, its a shame because that front 3 with Scholes supplying the ammunition would wank all over Liverpools lethargic once paced midfield/defence.
 
I might be seeing things, but his agility seems to be better this season. His knee was obviously hampering mid season last year, I suspect he played through the pain the entire spring.

A few more performances like this and the semblemce between himself and Eric doesn't seem as daft. The finish today reeked of confidence and arrogance ala Eric.

His speed and agility are definitely more in evidence this season. But the problem with thinking it must be down to him getting over his knee injury is, he played a season for us before the last one where he picked up the injury. And he was just as painfully slow then.
 
His speed and agility are definitely more in evidence this season. But the problem with thinking it must be down to him getting over his knee injury is, he played a season for us before the last one where he picked up the injury. And he was just as painfully slow then.

Do you really belive he was slower then? Might it not just as well be him being played as an attacking midfielder with Teves/Rooney or Ronaldo finishing the attacks and his pace not being as evident due to his position/role?

As for the knee, there were a lot of noises about Berba needing an operation on it. Dunno what's true, but seeing how he's performed so far I'm guessing it's more than just confidence making the difference.
 
Do you really belive he was slower then? Might it not just as well be him being played as an attacking midfielder with Teves/Rooney or Ronaldo finishing the attacks and his pace not being as evident due to his position/role?

As for the knee, there were a lot of noises about Berba needing an operation on it. Dunno what's true, but seeing how he's performed so far I'm guessing it's more than just confidence making the difference.

There were countless examples of his not having much speed. And him not being able to keep up with our counter attacks.

For me he looks leaner. I'd put it mostly down to hard work over the summer and a good pre-season. The injury obviously didnt help matters but thats not what made him slow.

I also watched him a lot in his last season at Spurs and I think he's moving faster now than he was then. Of course its been such a long time now so I could be wrong. But even back then he wasnt getting away from people much at all. Now it doesnt seem an issue for him.
 
Was well chuffed at his effort today and also the class goal. Was a good performance considering he wasnt playing in his favored role or position.
 
How do you think he played today, Ekeke?

I thought he was good, but he's not for me as the lone front man.

Took his goal very well but not a great job with his back to goal or holding up play in the middle. And constantly moving out looking for the ball on the flanks, rarely a good target in the middle.

Given that Owen was the only other option on the day, I think he did about as well as I could have expected him or any of our strikers to do. But I'd rather see Rooney as the lone front man or I'd rather Hernandez given a chance in the role to see if he can play it any better.

If we had a front 2 however, he'd definitely be starting for me at this point.
 
I thought he was good, but he's not for me as the lone front man.

Took his goal very well but not a great job with his back to goal or holding up play in the middle. And constantly moving out looking for the ball on the flanks, rarely a good target in the middle.

Given that Owen was the only other option on the day, I think he did about as well as I could have expected him or any of our strikers to do. But I'd rather see Rooney as the lone front man or I'd rather Hernandez given a chance in the role to see if he can play it any better.

If we had a front 2 however, he'd definitely be starting for me at this point.


Are you on a piss take?? did you watch any part of todays match? he led the line brilliantly and was consistently our best player throughout, took his goal exceptionally, created chances for teammates, bought others into the game AND ran the channels providing space for breaking midfielders, he did everything he was required to do simple as, and if you think Hernandez would have done any better today then your out of your tiny mind.
 
Are you on a piss take?? did you watch any part of todays match? he led the line brilliantly and was consistently our best player throughout, took his goal exceptionally, created chances for teammates, bought others into the game AND ran the channels providing space for breaking midfielders, he did everything he was required to do simple as, and if you think Hernandez would have dont better today then your out of your tiny mind.

No he didnt, no he wasnt and no I'm not surprised you're saying all this. Its like clockwork.
 
I thought he was good, but he's not for me as the lone front man.

Took his goal very well but not a great job with his back to goal or holding up play in the middle. And constantly moving out looking for the ball on the flanks, rarely a good target in the middle.

Given that Owen was the only other option on the day, I think he did about as well as I could have expected him or any of our strikers to do. But I'd rather see Rooney as the lone front man or I'd rather Hernandez given a chance in the role to see if he can play it any better.

If we had a front 2 however, he'd definitely be starting for me at this point.

erm, Ive been a Berba basher previously. But I thought he was fantastic today. Best on the pitch. Playing up alone is one thing that very few thought he could do. Now we know he can
 
I thought he was good, but he's not for me as the lone front man.

Took his goal very well but not a great job with his back to goal or holding up play in the middle. And constantly moving out looking for the ball on the flanks, rarely a good target in the middle.

Given that Owen was the only other option on the day, I think he did about as well as I could have expected him or any of our strikers to do. But I'd rather see Rooney as the lone front man or I'd rather Hernandez given a chance in the role to see if he can play it any better.

If we had a front 2 however, he'd definitely be starting for me at this point.


Yeah, I can't find a whole lot wrong with that. I think he did very well in comparison to his previous performances as a loan striker, although I agree it's not the best use of him. I don't think he did too badly holding up the ball actually, Everton didn't give any of our players ahead of our defenders much time on the ball, and Berbatov used his strength really well on a number of occasions. I think Hernandez or Owen could have struggled a lot more in similar situations, although they would have offered us a few things that Berbatov doesn't do so much. Whether their strengths and weaknesses would have been of more use to us relative to Berbatov's in this particular game, I feel, is pretty debatable, though.
 
No he didnt, no he wasnt and no I'm not surprised you're saying all this. Its like clockwork.

The only clockwork on display here is your inability to admit your wrong, your inability to accept Berbatovs proven you wrong and your inability to admit your an utter bellend when it comes to displaying an understanding of a football match.

Your nothing if not consistent ill give you that.
 
I thought he played well today in a role not as suited to him as playing with a partner, his goal was superb.
 
erm, Ive been a Berba basher previously. But I thought he was fantastic today. Best on the pitch. Playing up alone is one thing that very few thought he could do. Now we know he can

So? Unfortunately that doesnt mean you're anymore right now than wrong then.

He's just not what I'd require from my lone front man. As an example, in the first 25 minutes Everton were all over us and barely anything was sticking. But of course at this point, I know to expect that and I dont blame him. Its just not his type of role.

And then as the match goes on, there were some good balls into the box, how many times was Berbatov on the end of them? Or at least very close to getting on the end of them? Most of his work in the final third today was on the wing looking to pass his way through.

The problem is that he cant play a wide role and you would want him in the team to continue his goalscoring exploits.
 
So? Unfortunately that doesnt mean you're anymore right now than wrong then.

He's just not what I'd require from my lone front man. As an example, in the first 25 minutes Everton were all over us and barely anything was sticking. But of course at this point, I know to expect that and I dont blame him. Its just not his type of role.

And then as the match goes on, there were some good balls into the box, how many times was Berbatov on the end of them? Or at least very close to getting on the end of them? Most of his work in the final third today was on the wing looking to pass his way through.

The problem is that he cant play a wide role and you would want him in the team to continue his goalscoring exploits.

I think when strikers play that lone role they are told to stick on the wings as they are easier to find, take his goal it was coming from the right wing.

Also today i thought most of the balls we hoofed up wasnt to find our attackers it was more defensive clearances which never got anywhere. We played a lot of good stuff today (with him coming off the wing) and i cant think of anytime where there were good crosses but we had no players in the area. He wasnt playing out wide he just got pulled there as Giggs might have wondered into the center.

Lone front men have a difficult job when they arent getting good support from midfield so most tend to wonder on the wings to latch onto things until support arrives. I was impressed with his performance today as i always believe he wasnt capable of playing that role but todays performance went a way in disproving that.
 
So? Unfortunately that doesnt mean you're anymore right now than wrong then.

He's just not what I'd require from my lone front man. As an example, in the first 25 minutes Everton were all over us and barely anything was sticking. But of course at this point, I know to expect that and I dont blame him. Its just not his type of role.

And then as the match goes on, there were some good balls into the box, how many times was Berbatov on the end of them? Or at least very close to getting on the end of them? Most of his work in the final third today was on the wing looking to pass his way through.

The problem is that he cant play a wide role and you would want him in the team to continue his goalscoring exploits.

Hang on, several of our chances came about from Berbatov coming in off the wing, including the goal he scored. And if he's wide on the front three, he's a lot less likely to be on the end of crosses into the box unless they're hit deep. Giggs oddly enough seemed to be our most central attacking player for a fair bit of the game, at least enough to suggest it was as a result of Fergie's orders. He may not be a very orthodox wide player, but I did think he was causing Everton problems from out there.
 
So is Berbatov the real deal now or is he just going through another period of fairly decent form?

Lets be honest he was quite good in terms of goal getting at the start of his united career and had a period last season where he scored in almost every game he started albeit he didn't start week in week out
 
I think he'll have to sustain this form a little longer for everyone to be convinced, but I personally don't think his form has been that massive a step up this season from last. His form is more noticeable this season, sure, but I think he's doing a lot of the same things. If his confidence doesn't take a dip, then there's no doubt in my mind he can be widely thought of as one of our most important attacking players.
 
Berbatov as the Lone Striker.

The best thing to come out of today's game is that Berbatov showed he can lead the line for us in Rooney's absence. He held the ball up really well when we needed him too, he linked up brilliantly and looked dangerous as well.

It's very encouraging from Berbatov and I hope it's a sign of things to come from him.
 
Had a good game today I thought. Great goal too, beautiful finish.
 
So is Berbatov the real deal now or is he just going through another period of fairly decent form?

Lets be honest he was quite good in terms of goal getting at the start of his united career and had a period last season where he scored in almost every game he started albeit he didn't start week in week out

Both please. Let's just forget about last season, he was obviously struggling physically.

Blackburn away sums it up, fecked knee, cnuts berating you for not running around like a loon, and a ref that couldn't spot the difference between Mahjong and kick boxing.
 
Our best player today. Doing this on a constant basis this season, I hope it continues.
 
I have been really impressed, his work rate has improved and so has his confidence, the skill and talent was always there it was just the first two thigns I mentioned that needed fixing, it seems that he has done that :)
 
We should give serious thought to the idea of playing Rooney wide left now in the big matches. With Giggs in midfield off Berbatov and Nani on the right.

At the moment it's out best attack.

Rooney has relinquished his starting role as far as I'm concerned.

Always said that I didn't care about his off field shenanigans as long as they didn't impinge upon his on field form - but it clearly has now, given that Ferguson didn't consider him in the right frame of mind to play.

Berbatov's form is such that he deserves to be playing as a starter. I totally agree that Rooney should be moved now to accomodate Berba.
 
I have been really impressed, his work rate has improved and so has his confidence, the skill and talent was always there it was just the first two thigns I mentioned that needed fixing, it seems that he has done that :)
His work rates the same as it's always been. Great to see him doing so well, it's amazing what playing consistently can do for a players confidence...
 
He's been our best player so far this season

Indeed. People need to finally accept that.
What bugs me though is that he started well last season too. Only had no luck in front of goal. He's the same Berba, just 4 goals and an assist better than last year.
Also, is it me, or almost every goal Berba scores is a beauty and has something special about it? It's like he can't score a simple one
 
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