Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances

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i dont know if its been discussed at all, but he tends to drop deep a bit much.
 
Sunny Jim said:
Sheringham was miles ahead of Bebratov.
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He wasn't. His first season here was utterly shit by his standards. Yet he arrived on a free to be a Cantona's squad replacement. Yet was roundly condemned for not being Cantona

& in his second season he was 3rd choice forward when we won the treble. Eventually graduating to second choice in his 3rd year.

If anything Berbatov is following the same path as him. The only difference being in Berbatov's second season we are no where near as strong as we were in Sheringham's second yeah. & in his first he was way to over priced when he arrived.
 
Sunny Jim said:
back then, in 2008, how much would you have paid for him?

in a perfect world that is
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I'd never have paid over 25 m for him. He is a 22m (lower end price) -25 m(highest end price) pound player. That is what he was at Spurs. That is what we would have bought him for if City hadn't got in to the mix. & if we'd bought him for 23m this thread wouldn't exist.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
He will never live up to it to be fair. Because he has never been a 30 m pound player.
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So you keep saying.

If we had a £ for every time you've said it, we'd be able to buy...ooh, Berbatov.

You;re not actually doing the player any favours by doing so. Most people won't want telling that a player we payed £30m for isn't actually worth it.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
He wasn't. His first season here was utterly shit. Yet he arrived on a free to be Cantona's replacement. & in his second season he was 3rd choice forward when we won the treble. Eventually graduating to second choice in his 3rd year.

If anything Berbatov is following the same path as him. The only difference being in Berbatov's second season we are no where near as strong as we were in Sheringham's second yeah.
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Im talking about quality, not competition Teddy had to face. Ole, Andy, York were all great strikers so be playing second field to any of them doesn't really say much Chief.
 
Devilton said:
Try Kobe...corned beef will start tasting like dogshite.

That's the problem with united fans. We've just gotten used to Kobe, and now that we've paid premium prices and received a fairly underwhelming experience. We're itching to have a go.

Not Berba's fault. But fact is, he's just never going to live up to the billing.
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Well put. As I said earlier, we bought a CRT type tv on a black market at Plama TV cost. So we shouldn't be complaining that it doesn't function like a Plasma TV. Since it never was one in the first place!
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
I'd never have paid over 25 m for him. He is a 22m (lower end price) -25 m(highest end price) pound player. That is what he was at Spurs. That is what we would have bought him for if City hadn't got in to the mix. & if we'd bought him for 23m this thread wouldn't exist.
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IIRC 22 mil was the asking price for him. SAF refused to pay though. Bargining or SAF didn't consider Bebratv to be 22 mil player?

either way i don't think Bebrbatov's only problem is his price tag. I think style/ attitude also play their role.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Well put. As I said earlier, we bought a CRT type tv on a black market at Plama TV cost. So we shouldn't be complaining that it doesn't function like a Plasma TV. Since it never was one in the first place!
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so you're saying that he was a medicore player with a massive price tag. what was the reason for signing a medicore players then?
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
if we'd bought him for 23m this thread wouldn't exist.
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I disagree, this thread exists because we decided against signing Tevez for 25m after his first season, instead we spent the money on Dimi. Until Dimitar prooves to people that he was the better option this thread will run and run.

Tevez's form for shitty only adds fuel to the fire but even whilst he was here he had an uncanny nack of scoring massive goals (Wigan away last season for example). When we see Berba look not even remotely like scoring against Blackburn away we are reminded again of that choice the club took.

As I said earlier in the thread, if Tevez never played for United this thread would not exist. There would be other threads of course because some people could never accept his languid style, but the threads wouldn't be anything like this one.
 
Livvie said:
So you keep saying
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Because it's the truth, Livvie. We never bought a 30m pound player. We only over paid for him so that we could have him in our squad. To strengthen and ad variety to our attacking options. Even at his best at Spurs you can't tell me you believed he was worth 30m at any point. So why complain that he isn't one now?

Livvie said:
If we had a £ for every time you've said it, we'd be able to buy...ooh, Berbatov.
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:lol:

Livvie said:
You;re not actually doing the player any favours by doing so. Most people won't want telling that a player we payed £30m for isn't actually worth it.
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Well that's their own problem then. Because that means that they can't handle the truth. We paid inflated fees to get Berbatov and it wasn't his fault. He is not like a Veron who was worth the fee but didn't live up to it.
 
A grade said:
Still on my first coffee for the day, I will try and liven things up with some stats a bit later.

Jak tam w Warszawie?
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yeah, same here just finished my first for the day



how come you speak Polish mate?

it's good, i've been here for 4 months so I cannot say i know city or many people but you no, getting there hopefuly it will feel like home soon.
 
Sunny Jim said:
Im talking about quality, not competition Teddy had to face. Ole, Andy, York were all great strikers so be playing second field to any of them doesn't really say much Chief.
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It say's all there needs to be said. Sheringham wasn't first choice till Yorke waned. So I can't see how anyone can claim he was better than Berbatov. When he basically had the same role Berbatov has in our team. Playing second fiddle to great strikers(Cole, Yorke) while being ahead of others (Ole) . & just like Berbatov struggled in his first 2 years because he had to live up to what can't be lived up to.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Because it's the truth, Livvie. We never bought a 30m pound player. We only over paid for him so that we could have him in our squad. To strengthen and ad variety to our attacking options. Even at his best at Spurs you can't tell me you believed he was worth 30m at any point.



Well that's their own problem then. Because that means that they can't handle the truth. We paid inflated fees to get Berbatov and it wasn't his fault. He is not like a Veron who was worth the fee but didn't live up to it.
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Exactly. Good post this.
 
Sunny Jim said:
yeah, same here just finished my first for the day



how come you speak Polish mate?

it's good, i've been here for 4 months so I cannot say i know city or many people but you no, getting there hopefuly it will feel like home soon.
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I lived there for 4 years and I still travel to Poland a couple of times a month. A lot of friends there!
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Well that's their own problem then. Because that means that they can't handle the truth. .
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A grade said:
I lived there for 4 years and I still travel to Poland a couple of times a month. A lot of friends there!
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Poland today eh? we need a map to pinpoint where you are each day you jet setter.
 
Sunny Jim said:
so you're saying that he was a medicore player with a massive price tag. what was the reason for signing a medicore players then?
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23 m pound players are not mediocre. Look at Tevez. Loot at the likes of Milito,. That is the class of player he is in. He proved it at Spurs.

& he was bought to improve our squad striker options and variety upfront. Not to be our star player. The sooner people get that through their heads the better.

Right now most of his critics are no different from the fans who hated Sheringham for not being able to be just like Cantona the year he first arrived.
 
Why the focus on the price tag all the time.

The focus should be on his lack of effort first, the price tag is important, but secondary to his attitude, which is what, need I remind all again, especially Rubber man, which is what most supporters who are unhappy with him have an issue with.
 
Sunny Jim said:
next time in Warsaw let me no mate, a pint won't hurt right?
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Great idea! I will definitely pm you when I know the exact dates. Some very pretty ladies in Warsaw... You need to find the time to explore.

Forgot this is a Berbatov thread. Dimitar's girlfriend is pretty decent looking from what I have seen but I hear she has a languid style.
 
A grade said:
Top o' the morning to you Gambs! You disappeared for a couple of days, what's up? Any news?

In case you are wondering, we have been discussing Berbatov. Just thought I'd let you know and gently ease you into the debate.
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Berbatov eh? the player that we use as a lone striker when he should always have a forward partner. Whose confidence has gone. Whose hairline is receding at a pace we wish he could play at? Always liked him.
 
A grade said:
Great idea! I will definitely pm you when I know the exact dates. Some very pretty ladies in Warsaw... You need to find the time to explore.

Forgot this is a Berbatov thread. Dimitar's girlfriend is pretty decent looking from what I have seen but I hear she has a languid style.
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:lol:
 
gambit28 said:
Berbatov eh? the player that we use as a lone striker when he should always have a forward partner. Whose confidence has gone. Whose hairline is receding at a pace we wish he could play at? Always liked him.
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That's the one. Me too, always liked him, still do, a good footballer but shows a lack of effort. I wonder why we paid 30.75m for him?
 
A grade said:
Simple but brilliant. I wonder why I never thought of this!

I think that we have managed to take this discussion to a whole new level. Could explain the lack of recent activity here....
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Well I'm glad we sorted that one out.
 
Dans said:
Why the focus on the price tag all the time.

The focus should be on his lack of effort first, the price tag is important, but secondary to his attitude, which is what, need I remind all again, especially Rubber man, which is what most supporters who are unhappay with him have an issue with.
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Which is utter bullshit. People like you hate him because he isnt physically like Tevez or Rooney and cost 30 m. All the other things are just excuses for you to hide your real motives. Which is you want him to live up to what he will NEVER be.
 
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