I would be very unserious if I didn't need it. None of the second choice forwards at the 4 big clubs is out scoring him in the EPL. Only one has more assists in the EPL than he does, all whilst carrying a knee injury that probably needs surgery. There is even still time to add to those goals and assists. In a team that is built for the strengths of Rooney and not him. The notion being pedaled around in here that he has been shit all year and isn't pulling his weight is simply utter rubbish. He hasn't been on fire and since his a perfectionist that can't make him happy. But any one claiming he has been shit all season is just a fool.
In a side that doesn't have the tools to support him the way Spurs did and is built to the strengths of Rooney, not him.
He has contributed 12 goals and 4 assists to the fight for the title. That isn't nothing by any standards
As far as I see it, you and many others on here want him to perform to the standards of a value that isn't his. That's why you will forever be disappointed with him.
Berbatov has a bad knee injury too in case you forgot that he is carrying.
Correct.
If you'd played Sheringham as a lone striker he would most definitely have failed, yes. He always played off the main striker and speed was not his strong point at all.
You think his performances for us have been that of a 23 million pound player?The dumbest thing you've said in your life. You think the performances he put in at Spurs for 2 years were only that of a 10 million pound player?
This thread is full of them.
I agree.
Wrong. They are very relevant. Especially when people want to paint the Bulgarian as a collosal failure this season. Like has been done alto in this thread.
You won't find any even if you tired. He hasn't been superb. But he hasn't been an abject failure either. We are a top 4 club that's the bottom line. ''Any'' doesn't come into it or matter. He should be judged by the standards of top 4 teams in the EPL.
Wrong. He is just our second choice striker. Just because we over paid to get him doesn't change what he really is. We didn't buy him to challenge Rooney. We bought him to cover and support him. That is what he does. Though he could still do it better than his doing it now clearly.
Criticising him is not the problem. It's judging him by his price tag and the standards of players like Rooney that is. There is no doubt he deserves to be criticized. But criticizing him like he is here to be challenging Rooney directly for supremacy in our team is foolhardy. Because that's never what he was bought for in the first place.
Yes. Rooney was our first choice natural forward. He and Tevez were second choice. The way our champions elague games went proved this through out last season.
That is because we really wanted him as part of our squad hence over paid to get him. Not because we dimmed him a player of 30m pound value.
That's your problem then. For I don't need to drum up an excuse for him. It's a stone cold fact he is a second choice forward. Our first choice natural forward has been Rooney for ages. That is why even when 70% fit he still gets picked ahead of Berbatov.
Bullshit.
It will make a further mockery of the notion that he hasn't pulled his weight all season. The only worthy accusation that can be labeled against him is he isn't as good for us as he can be. That is why he didn't shine at certain key moments.
The whole TEAM was found wanting at key moments, save for Wayne Rooney and Van De Sar, not just Berbatov. That is the real reason our season is dead.
This thread is full of them.
I agree.
Wrong. They are very relevant. Especially when people want to paint the Bulgarian as a collosal failure this season. Like has been done alto in this thread.
We are a top 4 club that's the bottom line. ''Any'' doesn't come into it or matter. He should be judged by the standards of top 4 teams in the EPL.
Wrong. He is just our second choice striker. Just because we over paid to get him doesn't change what he really is. We didn't buy him to challenge Rooney. We bought him to cover and support him. That is what he does. Though he could still do it better than his doing it now clearly.
Criticising him is not the problem. It's judging him by his price tag and the standards of players like Rooney that is. There is no doubt he deserves to be criticized. But criticizing him like he is here to be challenging Rooney directly for supremacy in our team is foolhardy. Because that's never what he was bought for in the first place.
Yes. Rooney was our first choice natural forward. He and Tevez were second choice. The way our champions elague games went proved this through out last season.
Tevez left this season and we reverted to 4-5-1 in big games in the EPL also. Still leaving him as second choice. First choice partner in a 4-4-2 to Rooney, but second choice forward at the club.
That is because we really wanted him as part of our squad hence over paid to get him. Not because we dimmed him a player of 30m pound value.
That's your problem then. For I don't need to drum up an excuse for him. It's a stone cold fact he is a second choice forward. Our first choice natural forward has been Rooney for ages. That is why even when 70% fit he still gets picked ahead of Berbatov.
Bullshit.
First off,Sheringham arrived on a free here and still had a shit first season. Imagine how much worse it could have been if he had cost as much as Berbatov has.
Secondly, all players do not need Shearer's character to succeed. That's utter crap.
It will make a further mockery of the notion that he hasn't pulled his weight all season. The only worthy accusation that can be labeled against him is he isn't as good for us as he can be. That is why he didn't shine at certain key moments.
The whole TEAM was found wanting at key moments, save for Wayne Rooney and Van De Sar, not just Berbatov. That is the real reason our season is dead.
It isn't. Spurs have still been a very wasteful team this season. Berbatov at his Spurs best would have made a huge difference with that. With him there I don't believe Liverpool would have been the only big team Spurs would have beaten by this time. Meaning they'd be much closer to Arsenal than they are now.
I didn't intend to be aggressive at all. Since I did co across that way I apologize. I think it's because it's late over here and I'm tired. I beg your pardon.
No problem
That has little to do with his actually value as a player. The value we SHOULD have bought him for form Spurs.
No doubt
You've conveniently left out also how shit Spurs were that year. Despite his and some others best efforts earlier on.
I'm not surprised. I don't know many who were pleased by that.
Wasn't it more that someone at Spurs said he was sulking and we chose to believe it, rather than we actually knew it to be the case.
So you didn't see the last game then.
Yes I know. I'm always very wary of hearsay. It causes so many ill-founded and malicious rumours to spread which isn't very pleasant or fair for the people involved in them. Seen so much trouble caused by them over the years for so many people, by other people who just got it wrong.
Exactly. It's his fee that gets him the real stick. Not his ability or what he has done thus far.
