Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances

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he will be make weight for someone. Read possibly Ribery. We would be lucky to get 10 million for him.

Sorry, but most of Germany were amazed when we shelled out what we did for the former Leverkusen striker everyone knew as moody and lethargic. I doubt very much whether Bayern will have any interest in him at all.
 
Vicious circle though isn't it. Why was he benched?

That sounds suspiciously like the argument often given as to why Tevez sulked.

Sure, Herandez bought in as the club's record signing to replace Berbatov and Berbatov benched.

Its exactly the same as Tevez. When will we learn?
 
Tevez was benched because he wasn't up to the job, in Sir Alex's eyes.

Berbatov was benched for the same reason.

Let's not try and twist things.

Tevez was benched because we bought Berbatov. Who everyone, including the manager, thought would be a bit better as a partner for Rooney.

Before Berbatov came, Tevez was benched for a couple of big matches and started, played well in and scored in several of the others. The rest of the matches he played.
 
Now he's comparing Berbas movement to Messis, lol it's a bit unfair but he has a point. Instead of looking at the ball he plays and admiring, he's immediately on the go to receive it or get on the end of something instead of jogging nonchantly. It's all about effort really, stats can never convey this kind of stuff so Brwned relax before you pull them out.
 
Is it so hard for the likes of you and Eriku to grasp that this thread is about Berbatov and I am posting in this thread because he is for my money our most disappointing player?

Again, I only ever brought up Carrick after you'd mentioned Berbatov in relation to the WHOLE squad (being our most disappointing player), and I don't get to voice that I believe you are wrong and that Carrick is a better candidate?

Can you really not see how absolutely moronic that is?
 
Sir Alex bought Berbatov because he wanted to improve his striking line-up, obviously.

Ergo, he thought Tevez wasn't up to being first choice.

Maybe he just wanted to aim for four top strikers the way it used to be.

Forgetting the guy's suspect personality for a minute, I'll bet the majority of United supporters would have Tevez in the side in a heartbeat now.
 
The thread is about Berbatov. He's been our most DISAPPOINTING player this season.

If you want to to discuss how that player is in fact in your opinion Michael Carrick, then feck off to that thread and talk about him being disappointing in the thread started for that purpose.

Is it so hard for the likes of you and Eriku to grasp that this thread is about Berbatov and I am posting in this thread because he is for my money our most disappointing player?

Give me strength.

feck off idiot. You can't make statements like X player has been our worst player this season, and then when someone replies what about Y player tell them to go and discuss it elsewhere. Essentially what you're saying is that no one is allowed to challenge that opinion in this thread.

Which is essentially what I expected from you you shit cnut
 
Again, I only ever brought up Carrick after you'd mentioned Berbatov in relation to the WHOLE squad (being our most disappointing player), and I don't get to voice that I believe you are wrong and that Carrick is a better candidate?

Can you really not see how absolutely moronic that is?

Well good for you. But go and discuss how Carrick is the worst player on our squad this year in the thread about Carrick. In this thread, we are talking about the best to come from Berbatov which either isn't coming or has already been.

Is it difficult to grasp the idea of discussing Berbatov in this thread about Berbatov - all those aspects of his play and character which I dislike without having to trump it all with the lame "but Carrick has been worse"?
 
Well good for you. But go and discuss how Carrick is the worst player on our squad this year in the thread about Carrick. In this thread, we are talking about the best to come from Berbatov which either isn't coming or has already been.

Is it difficult to grasp the idea of discussing Berbatov in this thread about Berbatov - all those aspects of his play and character which I dislike without having to trump it all with the lame "but Carrick has been worse"?

Ladies and gentlemen; QED.

The man can't fathom a principle.
 
feck off idiot. You can't make statements like X player has been our worst player this season, and then when someone replies what about Y player tell them to go and discuss it elsewhere. Essentially what you're saying is that no one is allowed to challenge that opinion in this thread.

Which is essentially what I expected from you you shit cnut

What are you? 14?

Grow up.
 
Again, I only ever brought up Carrick after you'd mentioned Berbatov in relation to the WHOLE squad (being our most disappointing player), and I don't get to voice that I believe you are wrong and that Carrick is a better candidate?

Can you really not see how absolutely moronic that is?
He is incapable of seeing what a moron he is being. when it was pointed out to the likes of him that Berbatov is being blamed for playing deep, when it is simply him following instruction from his manager. He interpreted it as claiming SAF is crap. He will stop at nothing to act stupid if you don't agree with his views
 
Maybe he just wanted to aim for four top strikers the way it used to be.

Forgetting the guy's suspect personality for a minute, I'll bet the majority of United supporters would have Tevez in the side in a heartbeat now.

Really? I don't understand those who would, bearing in mind the stupid circumstances under which he left. The man is oblivious to the club's values. Others in the squad MAY be, but with him proving it I'd rather have him playing well but not winning anything for City ;P
 
He is incapable of seeing what a moron he is being. when it was pointed out to the likes of him that Berbatov is being blamed for playing deep, when it is simply him following instruction from his manager. He interpreted it as claiming SAF is crap. He will stop at nothing to act stupid if you don't agree with his views

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

can bots see white text?
 
Tevez was benched because we bought Berbatov. Who everyone, including the manager, thought would be a bit better as a partner for Rooney.

Before Berbatov came, Tevez was benched for a couple of big matches and started, played well in and scored in several of the others. The rest of the matches he played.

Is that meant to be a different point to mine or just elaborating on it?

I don't think Fergie thought Tevez wasn't up to it. I think Fergie wanted an impact player to come off the bench, in the same way he used Ole.

Tevez being a big girls blouse, didn't see it that way, so chucked his dummy out.

Both Fergie and Tevez needed their heads banging together maybe. Both were at fault imo, because this club would be better off with Tevez in it.

There, I've said it.

(Don't like the little twat now mind - but if he hadn't left, we wouldn't have been witness to his silly tantrum/outburst).

Well yeah, you're essentially saying what I'm saying, just looking at it from a more pro-Tevez/anti-Berbatov stance. He wanted Tevez as a super-sub, not a first choice. I think he was wrong to, but that's besides the point.
 
Ladies and gentlemen; QED.

The man can't fathom a principle.

It's really simple. The thread is about Berbatov, if you think Carrick has been more disappointing then I am really happy for you, but as I have already stated that I think it's Berbatov, I am hardly going to want to get into a he's worse than he is slanging match with you. As far as I am concerned Berbatov is undoubtedly the most disappointing player, which is why I am posting in this thread and no matter how much you want to convince me that I should come around to your way of thinking that Carrick is in fact more disappointing, I am not going to, which is why you can discuss Carrick's inadequacies in the carrick thread.

Got it? I fecking hope so because this is becoming tedious as feck and I can't be arsed with your posts anymore.
 
Maybe he just wanted to aim for four top strikers the way it used to be.

Forgetting the guy's suspect personality for a minute, I'll bet the majority of United supporters would have Tevez in the side in a heartbeat now.

Never possible with the tactics we play these days, and the fact we have Rooney who just won't be rotated the way Cole, Teddy, Ole and Yorke were because he's always been much more important to the team.
 
It's really simple. The thread is about Berbatov, if you think Carrick has been more disappointing then I am really happy for you, but as I have already stated that I think it's Berbatov, I am hardly going to want to get into a he's worse than he is slanging match with you. As far as I am concerned Berbatov is undoubtedly the most disappointing player, which is why I am posting in this thread and no matter how much you want to convince me that I should come around to your way of thinking that Carrick is in fact more disappointing, I am not going to, which is why you can discuss Carrick's inadequacies in the carrick thread.

Got it? I fecking hope so because this is becoming tedious as feck and I can't be arsed with your posts anymore.

Last try...

I just want to be able to say "He's been better than Carrick" when you insist that he's more disappointing than the rest of the squad. You compare him to the entire squad, I compare him to Carrick to tell you you're wrong, IMO. I don't expect you to adapt my view, but I'm saying there's definitely a case for Carrick having been as disappointing.

Got it? I fecking hope so because this is becoming tedious as feck and I can't be arsed with your posts anymore.
 
Really? I don't understand those who would, bearing in mind the stupid circumstances under which he left. The man is oblivious to the club's values. Others in the squad MAY be, but with him proving it I'd rather have him playing well but not winning anything for City ;P

If you read my post properly, I was talking about the man as a footballer. His fragile ego might not even have come to light if we'd bought him earlier in the season.

I've always believed that he would have accepted being on the bench if we'd offered him a contract anyway. It was the whole "not wanted" thing that triggered him leaving. Stupid and childish, and ultimately what he's remembered for now.

Why would you want him to play well for City? I don't.
 
If you read my post properly, I was talking about the man as a footballer. His fragile ego might not even have come to light if we'd bought him earlier in the season.

I've always believed that he would have accepted being on the bench if we'd offered him a contract anyway. It was the whole "not wanted" thing that triggered him leaving. Stupid and childish, and ultimately what he's remembered for now.

If you read my post properly you'd see I had issues with the man, not the footballer... to the extent that I'd rather not see him return to Old Trafford.

And whatever triggered it doesn't matter, he certainly didn't show the team mentality in terms of how he expressed himself throughout the season.

And I don't WANT him to do well for City... blimey, don't have a go at me for not reading properly and then go reading more into what I'm saying than what's there... I'd RATHER that (along with City not winning anything) THAN him coming here.
 
If Berba is playing deep on the instructions of SAF then it hasn't worked - who is at fault?
Why should anyone be at fault? Was Fergie at fault that Veron failed to mesh with Keane in our midfield often enough for example? There are things you just can't legislate over.

Right now SAF is playing Berba deeper than he has for most of the season, because he believes Berba helps us keep the ball better. At a time in which our midfield and team in general have all of a sudden forgotten how to pass or keep the ball like we normally do. I'd like you to point out who is to blame for the entire team suddenly losing it's passing ability. If you really think the blame game is a worthy road to take .
 
Why should anyone be at fault? Was Fergie at fault that Veron failed to mesh with Keane in our midfield often enough for example? There are things you just can't legislate over.

Right now SAF is playing Berba deeper than he has for most of the season, because he believes Berba helps us keep the ball better. At a time in which our midfield and team in general have all of a sudden forgotten how to pass or keep the ball like we normally do. I'd like you to point out who is to blame for the entire team suddenly losing it's passing ability. If you really think the blame game is a worthy road to take .

How the feck do you know what Ferguson believes? Same shite as always with you - you post based on what you think other people think. Sound logic there.
 
Why should anyone be at fault? Was Fergie at fault that Veron failed to mesh with Keane in our midfield often enough for example? There are things you just can't legislate over.

Well he was at fault for persevering for so long though.

Stubbornness or misguided loyalty?

Greatest manager ever, but Fergie isn't infallible. Not quite anyway.
 
Because he knew Ronaldo was leaving before hand and bringing in a player who isn't suited to his style whatsoever makes the transition easier

That makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Um. Because 3 quality strikers is better than 2.

That's just a crazy guess.

We should probably buy a couple more keepers too.

And maybe another top class centre back.

The more the merrier obviously.

Doesn't really matter how they fit into the team, we should just stack them all up and hope fr the best. That works.
 
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