Television Dexter

Was alright, but it really has just been a case of chucking a load of different stuff at the show until there's no more space left to fill. One of the worst things is that the ending will probably have no real relation to anything that has transpired before this season, which was the one thing that could've made this show go out on a high. The show has now become so far removed from what it was like when it was good that they've really taken the sting out of the context of Dexter being caught. Deborah already knows, and the other characters at the station are too insignificant for them to contribute to any intensity the ending would've provided. They needed to kick things into motion as soon as the season started for this to have any hope of working, with La Guerta's death and her accusations still fresh in the mind. That possibility is long gone now, and I get the impression they've bottled it and gone down the route of happily ever after just so they can bring it back some day.

That's an assumption, but I think on the basis of what we've seen so far it seems clear that they don't want to properly bring it to a close. It would surely have been extremely easy even for these writers to give this show a decent final season, with the police leading a big investigation into Dexter and him eventually being found out. They could've still introduced Vogel earlier on and brought Hannah back if they'd wanted to. You could argue in fact that they could've got a lot more out of the Hannah/Dexter thing had it panned out that way, what with them being two serial killers on the run.
 
yeh, I agree KingEric7. This seasons should have been about the pressure building on Dexter and him slowly unravelling.

Fairly sure I could write a better final season than the current writers. Top of my head, I'd look at;

La Guerta's death should have kicked more pressure dexters way. With the rest of the police force slowly starting to come around to the idea as well. Then add in deb's break down and dexter could have been struggling to hold back the pressure of being suspected while needing to kill and keeping deb from doing something stupid. Have vogel come in an try and give him a steadying hand, but have it only introduce more issues with the brain surgeon giving a real threat to dexters life over the season (have it so it was more drawn out and a back issues building up as things go)

Then if they wanted bring back hannah, which could have been used to push deb even further over the edge and have her eventually break down fully and stuff up and give the game away to say quinn. Forcing dexter into hiding, while not being able to run without the brain surgeon taking vogel out.

end the whole thing with dexter finally finishing off the brain surgeon and ridding vogel of that issue, only for the police to close in on the kill room and dexter to finally be caught in the act and be caught/killed if they wanted. If they really wanted to leave it right open, have him caught and chucked in prison. End it with him murdering some murder and being put in solitary.
 
feck me, I thought that when the Miami PD went to the neighbours house, her boyfriend was such a shit actor with his overblown reaction making him look like a suspect but the joke was on me! His sudden switch in demeanour is a bit random though. Shouldn't have made him look like such a pussy Ryan Gosling when they introduced him. But the previews show that the last 3 episodes could be better and hopefully they are.
 
Ivor Ballokov said:
The boyfriend's reaction was so badly performed I thought for a second that maybe he had killed her and was badly covering his tracks. That would mean that Cassie had spoken to 3 murderers in one day though and that is just silly, even for Miami.

Masuka's daughter is lovely.

Deb needs to just bang her boss already, this isn't moonlighting.

Quinn seems to be intending on moving in with his incredibly hot girlfriend just to spite his boss. Some douchebags get all the luck.

I still don't get why Hannah moved and dumped Dexter's body? Was she just going to put his unconscious body in front of her husband and hope for the best.
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Well what do you know..
 
So Dexter was standing outside that diner looking in for about 40 minutes? Sure, that's not weird and suspicious at all. Also, driving to said diner in your usual car and parking in the main parking lot - not exactly a move Dexter would've made in the first seasons. Why did the writers have to make him as retarded as the rest of Miami Metro?


Also agree with people above saying this season should've been more about pressure building on him after LaGuerta's death. It seems rather pointless now, only fuelling Debra's mental breakdown. I also never understood why Dexter never being home hasn't been a bigger point in the show. Surely with Quinn dating his nanny she'd tell him of all the nights Dexter has to go out for something - not really normal behaviour when you have a kid, is it? I seem to remember someone wondering a bit why he went out so often (I forgot who and when though), but it was never pursued further. As it is now, the suspension is almost gone really, which takes a lot away from the show. In early seasons Dexter used quite a few rather clever tricks to avoid suspicion (such as how he only started the Rita relationship as a cover) and connection with any murder he made (using cars from the carpool, avoid being seen with (and in the same places as) the guy he's about to kill). These days he doesn't bother with any of those. Even something like driving Hannah around in his own car when he knows there's a marshal looking for her (and probably suspecting him of some kind of involvement) is hilariously stupid. Particularly considering he used traffic cams himself to find her.
 
Have they decided to leave it open for another season after this one? If this is the final season like they said, they have totally fecked it up.
 
Drainy said:
Have they decided to leave it open for another season after this one? If this is the final season like they said, they have totally fecked it up.
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Pretty sure the point is that Dexter gets away with everything, leaves for Argentina with Hannah and lives happily ever after. Just the fairly-tale ending everyone watching Dexter wanted!

If they're actually planning for anything but that they'd fecked up big time. Not enough episodes to make another ending really, unless they pull off something really special - which I highly doubt the current writers are capable of.
 
Wowi said:
Pretty sure the point is that Dexter gets away with everything, leaves for Argentina with Hannah and lives happily ever after. Just the fairly-tale ending everyone watching Dexter wanted!

If they're actually planning for anything but that they'd fecked up big time. Not enough episodes to make another ending really, unless they pull off something really special - which I highly doubt the current writers are capable of.
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So after 8 seasons of (at times) really tense faceoffs with some of Miami's greatest serial killers and avoiding getting caught by Miami Metro, the only tension preventing Dexter from his happy ending now is caused by characters introduced in the final season, with both Cassie's boyfriend and the federal marshal only becoming prominent in the second half of the season.. seriously, what happened to the quality of the writing on this show?
 
Drainy said:
So after 8 seasons of (at times) really tense faceoffs with some of Miami's greatest serial killers and avoiding getting caught by Miami Metro, the only tension preventing Dexter from his happy ending now is caused by characters introduced in the final season, with both Cassie's boyfriend and the federal marshal only becoming prominent in the second half of the season.. seriously, what happened to the quality of the writing on this show?
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Writers stopped and were replaced by monkeys. And completely agree - I was really hoping they'd use this last season to make a proper ending to the show to make people forget a bit how poor the past seasons have been, but sadly it truly seems like the writers have no idea what to do with the show. Ever since it started I only saw one proper ending to the show; Dexter being found out and either on the run or dead. When Debra found out that only boosted that, and LaGuerta's death even more so. I suppose it makes some sense to finish it off with Dexter becoming a normal person, stopping the killings and moving off somewhere - but it's just not the sugar sweet ending I hoped for (or expected). It could've worked with a proper story I guess, but the way it looks to end just seems so unfinished.
 
Wowi said:
So Dexter was standing outside that diner looking in for about 40 minutes? Sure, that's not weird and suspicious at all. Also, driving to said diner in your usual car and parking in the main parking lot - not exactly a move Dexter would've made in the first seasons. Why did the writers have to make him as retarded as the rest of Miami Metro?


Also agree with people above saying this season should've been more about pressure building on him after LaGuerta's death. It seems rather pointless now, only fuelling Debra's mental breakdown. I also never understood why Dexter never being home hasn't been a bigger point in the show. Surely with Quinn dating his nanny she'd tell him of all the nights Dexter has to go out for something - not really normal behaviour when you have a kid, is it? I seem to remember someone wondering a bit why he went out so often (I forgot who and when though), but it was never pursued further. As it is now, the suspension is almost gone really, which takes a lot away from the show. In early seasons Dexter used quite a few rather clever tricks to avoid suspicion (such as how he only started the Rita relationship as a cover) and connection with any murder he made (using cars from the carpool, avoid being seen with (and in the same places as) the guy he's about to kill). These days he doesn't bother with any of those. Even something like driving Hannah around in his own car when he knows there's a marshal looking for her (and probably suspecting him of some kind of involvement) is hilariously stupid. Particularly considering he used traffic cams himself to find her.
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:lol: so true
 
The only good thing about the last season was Deb eating the food Hannah made. Everything else was stupid and somehow I realized that I only want this to finish, I don't even care anymore if the show will have a strong ending or not.
 
Revan said:
The only good thing about the last season was Deb eating the food Hannah made. Everything else was stupid and somehow I realized that I only want this to finish, I don't even care anymore if the show will have a strong ending or not.
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I agree about that dinner.
 
By the way if vogel and her son were always together then how do writers explain her reaction earlier, when she looked scared?
 
The writing is so incredible shit that even scenes with Yvonne Strahovski become unbearable. It's really not fair, no one should be forced to skip through scenes with her in it :nono: . The writers deserve to be cursed for that, I hope they hit their little toe at the bathroom door every single morning for the rest of their lives.
 
TheBest said:
By the way if vogel and her son were always together then how do writers explain her reaction earlier, when she looked scared?
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I'm guessing that she didn't know he was alive and was the killer at that point. And after he escaped from dexter, he went to vogel and confronted her. Fits sort of with her having to prove she didn't send dexter at the end of the episode at least.
 
After a slow weekend, I'm all caught up. Sad to say, despite my terribly low expectations, I still found the writing to be garbage. Few highlights for me (I'm sure most of these have already been mentioned, but I need to vent) -

Maria's death and her suspicions about Dexter were completely glossed over.

Why exactly did they feel the need to have Batista open a restaurant last season?

That stupid black female cop. Who the feck are you and why are you talking in this scene?!

When Quinn asked Batista how he knew he was dating Jamie - "Because I'm a good detective". :lol:

Hannah drugging Dexter and Deb for no apparent reason.

Dexter taking about 10 minutes to find Hannah's location and alias via a traffic camera but the US Marshall Service hasn't thought of that yet.

People have just given up asking Dexter just why he needs to go out late at night. Quinn was at the dinner party when Dexter had to mysteriously leave and not even a peep.

The magic face aging program and the way Dexter linked it to someone he's seen about 3 times in his life was quite a low.

The supposedly intelligent Vogel, who specializes in dealing with psychopaths, never stopped to think/mention her psychopath son, whose body was never seen.

And my number one highlight was something Wowi has already pointed out -

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Another cracker was the logic of sending Hannah to Deborah's house. Wasn't it Deborah that got her imprisoned after Dexter gave the incriminating evidence to her? Is it absolutely beyond the realms of possibility that an escaped serial killer might want to enact some sort of revenge for that?
 
If Hannah went on to poison Deb, it would have set up a great finale. Dexter would be after Hannah as it would been his fault Deb died and at the same time, this new Ryan Gosling lite would be after Dexter as he knows Dexter tried to kill him. Throw in Miami Metro discovering Dex as the serial killer (would have to be by accident as they are thick as shit) would have set the show up for a cracking end.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
If Hannah went on to poison Deb, it would have set up a great finale. Dexter would be after Hannah as it would been his fault Deb died and at the same time, this new Ryan Gosling lite would be after Dexter as he knows Dexter tried to kill him. Throw in Miami Metro discovering Dex as the serial killer (would have to be by accident as they are thick as shit) would have set the show up for a cracking end.
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Even then I can see miami metro stumbling across dexter with a knife plunged into some guys chest with blood all over him and just go, nice work dexter good to see you got here so quickly. Particularly as you seemed to have come from some butcher themed fancy dress party. how do you think he was killed.
 
Dargonk said:
Even then I can see miami metro stumbling across dexter with a knife plunged into some guys chest with blood all over him and just go, nice work dexter good to see you got here so quickly. Particularly as you seemed to have come from some butcher themed fancy dress party. how do you think he was killed.
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:lol: so true. And when Dexter says "how did you get here?" Angel replies "because I'm a good detective"
 
kouroux said:
Also how he conveniently added the right style of facial hair, the right hair color.
Btw, where is that black detective chick ?
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Yeah! I was thinking that myself. Seems like such an irrelevant character. Dexter has become the charitable show for struggling actors! :lol:
 
kps88 said:
Dexter taking about 10 minutes to find Hannah's location and alias via a traffic camera but the US Marshall Service hasn't thought of that yet.
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In fairness Dexter knew exactly what cam to look at in a fairly specific time-frame. But yeah, it's ridiculous the chances Hannah and Dexter are taking with the Marshall service on their tail.


Solius :lol:
 
Shane88 said:
Isaak was good too.
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Isaak was good too but largely due to Ray Stevenson who is a great actor, he was actually terribly written as a character and full of cliches.

I think the show has actually been on decline since season one really. Season four was amazing but purely because of Lithgow as Trinity and the unexpected ending, anything that didn't involve him was actually a bit rubbish. it was a niche show that sort of ran out of good ideas after season two (the bay harbour butcher stuff should've been the last season, not the second).

I'd rate them

4 > 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> 3 > 5 > 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>6 > 8
 
Isaak was fantastic. He was someone who was better than Dexter at everything then they just ended his story arc stupidly and made him the biggest missed opportunity in the series.
 
Cina said:
Isaak was good too but largely due to Ray Stevenson who is a great actor, he was actually terribly written as a character and full of cliches.

I think the show has actually been on decline since season one really. Season four was amazing but purely because of Lithgow as Trinity and the unexpected ending, anything that didn't involve him was actually a bit rubbish. it was a niche show that sort of ran out of good ideas after season two (the bay harbour butcher stuff should've been the last season, not the second).

I'd rate them

4 > 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> 3 > 5 > 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>6 > 8
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I'd have to agree with this, really.

Season 2 put the pressure on Dexter (and killed off Doakes) much, much too early. That whole plot arc needed to be much later in the series. Season 1 was quality, though. Brilliant television. Wonderful start.

Season 3 was alright, but that's possibly just because I really like Jimmy Smits. It suffered because it didn't have a clear antagonist. I liked the idea of him befriending someone who started to kill people too (Smits), but it wrapped up in a bit of a silly way with the sniper on the roof, but the idea was good and it wasn't a failure of a season. It just focused more on developing Dexter's character. The main antagonist that Miami Metro was hunting was a complete non-entity, though. Wasn't he a telephone engineer or something silly? He wouldn't have been out of place in an episode of Criminal Minds as the serial killer that they find and stop in the course of a single episode.

Season 4 was right up there with Season 1 because John Lithgow was so damn good. Genuinely fantastic television, it brought Dexter back to its heights. And that ending!

Basically, if the order had instead gone Season 1-3-4-2 and ended there, it would have been an amazing show without a weak season and with a fantastic ending.
 
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