because it were not Barcelona or Real Madrid who made the first offer.
Nobody wants their top players leaving.
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because it were not Barcelona or Real Madrid who made the first offer.
Nobody wants their top players leaving.
Levy would bum us without vaseline for us to get Alli. We'd end up paying for their stadium and then some.
I don't think anyone at Spurs is massively unhappy but there will inevitably be some head turning this summer. Mst player's priorities are CL football and wonga these days it seems - Spurs offer one of the these but Chelsea, City and Man Utd (potentially) can offer both.
Given their salaries are much less, the contract extension probably doesn't actually deter a deal being done. Just allows Levy some comfort in that they won't be leaving for free/running down contracts.
Anyway, not detracting from what was originally praise for Levy. I just wonder if this summer he will be fighting a few fires with agents demanding more £££££ for their players
If Levy values his young stars at mega prices he will need to pay them as such
I.e break your wage structure for me or I'm off.
It's up to Levy what he wants Tottenham to be. Because he will need to increase salaries to stay a top 4 club. Simple. Surely they don't want to slip back into the pack.
Signing a new contract will not allow Levy to reject any deal.
If Walker wants to earn £150k a week Spurs have two options. They either keep hold on an unhappy player for 12 months with his performaces and valuation diminishing; or they pay him the salary he's looking for.
Given that Spurs can't afford the £150k contract and can't afford the potential for a £40m player to half in value when they have a more than capable deputy and very little net funds for squad improvement. The answer becomes clear.
Obviously with someone like Alli who's far more important you'll double his salary to £100k and keep him for 12 months.
Let's not pretend however that signing a new contract means you won't leave the club 12 months later. It's just giving the player more short term cash and the buying club an extra lump in transfer fee.
Wouldn't want him tbh, he's too similar to Pogba who is better and has a higher ceiling. At any rate, wouldn't want to deal with that bastard Levy
It's interesting to view the large number of posts/threads about how Spurs may lose/will supposedly lose so many different players and/or the manager, and to contrast this with many posts from United fans wondering if they'll manage to find any takers for offloading many of their players. Just saying ...
I agree but he will only be sold on our terms and if Poch gives the ok. If Poch wants him to stay and Levy agrees he will not be sold. This old adage of a want away player rotting in the reserves never happens. Walker isn't that upper lever of class player we have. Signing a new contract gives the club that buffer of a few seasons to say "you will not be sold". Levy has done it before and he will do it again.
We're not talking about losing our best players though, just the crap we don't want. Probably because we're not a selling club like Spurs.
Well, they include players you've spent a lot of money on and players who were lauded to the skies by your fans not so long ago.
But in any case, United have sold big stars in the past and will likely do so again, so that makes you a selling club like any other if enough money is offered and/or the player wants out.
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/...uction-costs-in-planning-doc/10019739.article
Spurs aren't going to make a killing on the commercial end of the new development like they planned. This has been obvious for months. They might be tempted to sell some players in the right offer comes in.
Of course Glaston told me I was mad to even think this.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/spu...-in-each-position.420411/page-5#post-19623362
Spurs aren't going to make a killing on the commercial end of the new development like they planned. This has been obvious for months. They might be tempted to sell some players in the right offer comes in.
Of course Glaston told me I was mad to even think this.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/spu...-in-each-position.420411/page-5#post-19623362
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Let's be honest, Spurs have been fantastic, period. The thing is though, the transition from fantastic to consistently fantastic is bigger than it might look. It takes time, great planning and even better situation management. There are a few questions one need to ask to find out whether Spurs are on the right track.
Is any single player leaving the club gonna impact the overall performance greatly?
Is the coach there to stay long-term? Does he want to build legacy? Would his leaving impact the club greatly?
Basically, what i am trying to say is that Spurs would need to keep doing what they are doing for more than just 2-3 years before they can effectively transition to the next level(bar outside investment). The stadium is the beginning, awesome results are indeed in place, let's just see if they can stay on the same path or some of the cogs are more important and without them the whole thing crumbles. As a fan of United, i hope that a couple of players eventually leaving might crush them, same as the coach.
Is any single player leaving the club gonna impact the overall performance greatly?
Is the coach there to stay long-term? Does he want to build legacy? Would his leaving impact the club greatly?
Basically, what i am trying to say is that Spurs would need to keep doing what they are doing for more than just 2-3 years before they can effectively transition to the next level(bar outside investment). The stadium is the beginning, awesome results are indeed in place, let's just see if they can stay on the same path or some of the cogs are more important and without them the whole thing crumbles. As a fan of United, i hope that a couple of players eventually leaving might crush them, same as the coach.
So instead of posting something constructive or relevant you're just gonna make snide comments about another team?
I don't want players of his caliber to leave the EPL. I don't care where he ends up otherwise.
The next manager that comes in is going to feck it all up. I bet it's Brendan Rodgers.
There's a big difference between not "making a killing" - which are your words not mine - and claiming that "the commercial side of the project must be in serious doubt" (again your words). As I've said before, you're clutching as straws if you actually believe that Spurs are (or will be) in financial trouble. The club's revenue streams are booming ... and that's before we even sell the stadium naming rights for a packet and begin receiving income from improved sponsorship deals in other areas.
This thread is chock-a-block with snide comments about Spurs .... I don't see you complaining about that.
The best English players should be at the best English club. No matter what people say - I don't see this club being at the top without having the best homegrown talents. I'm not even English but tired of this English players are over priced stuff. Who cares?
Get alli, get Barkley get whoever. These are players who once join a club like united will never leave until we think they are done; they are the players who try their hardest and end up bleeding the colour of our club on the pitch. Instead of having a player joining Madrid every 2 years - I'd be happy once in a whilst to break the bank for some of the best English talent.
Get alli, get Barkley get whoever. These are players who once join a club like united will never leave until we think they are done; they are the players who try their hardest and end up bleeding the colour of our club on the pitch. Instead of having a player joining Madrid every 2 years - I'd be happy once in a whilst to break the bank for some of the best English talent.
Good post. I'd say the answer to your 4 questions are "no" (if we're talking about any single player), "yes", "yes" and "yes".
He is probably the best english player right now, he needs to be in the PL and United need to be the ones that keep him there.
I haven't really seen anything like that since its been bumped, questioning if Tottenham can keep their stars is hardly snide. At any rate this is a Man United forum, if you want people to fawn over Spurs head to /r/soccer.
You don't think it would greatly impact you if Alli or Kane left?
Nope. I suggest the commercial side of the project could end up not being viable after Brexit. Spurs aren't going to build if it's not profitable.
Now Spurs own report says "“a worsened overall scheme viability, largely due to construction cost inflation and the impacts of Brexit".
Great to see Property speculators getting burned.
In your terms, isn't the question therefore which club is the best English club? United may be able pay the best wages, but does that make you the best English club in the here and now?
That's rather Berkish. We're debating you losing your best players. On the flip side we're discussing getting rid of our worst.
Those two things are completely different.
It depends on what is meant by "greatly". It would have an impact, for sure, but then we'd have a bucket load of money to spend on one or more replacements.
Many people say, and I agree with them, that the current Spurs team is greater than the sum of its parts (i.e. plays as a cohesive, well coached team) - so the loss of one individual part would likely not mean a huge downturn in performance IMO.
What on earth are you talking about now? Not that I've seen these posts where people are supposedly wondering who will sign our players but I will assume the players we're talking about are your Rooney's, Fellaini's, Jones' all of which you'd have to go back several years since anyone lauded them (if at all)
You're falling into the same trap as Liverpool there. You need to be retaining quality and and adding to it. You have a good squad already, you're not in a position to sell one player and buy 3 more with the money and be better off (unless you absolutely luck out and buy excellently).
Considering how you spent Bale's money I doubt that is a positive thing.
I'm all for you being Bullish. But rein it in a little.
Would you honestly back Spurs to win more than United over any period you care to pick? (I know you like Trends). 12 months, 24, 60? It's not happening.
All power to your team having a good moment. Yet you've just had back to back seasons of being head and shoulders above / better than most teams in england and you've still got a dusty cabinet.
We're in a bad spot but don't kid yourself that it's the new normal.
Nope. I suggest the commercial side of the project could end up not being viable after Brexit. Spurs aren't going to build if it's not profitable.
Now Spurs own report says "“a worsened overall scheme viability, largely due to construction cost inflation and the impacts of Brexit".
Great to see Property speculators getting burned.
I presume you're talking about just the hotel - since some features of the overall Northumberland Development Project have already been built (e.g. Lilywhite House) and the new stadium is going up as we speak. The hotel is a later and relatively minor stage of the project, and in any case it's way too premature to talk of it not being built.
Poch won't stay long after they sell Dele, it's a domino effect. Selling clubs always fall away.
Interesting comments by Alli. Could have answered it in a variety of different ways too.
He's certainly sowing the seed and ultimately it's not hard to see why. Top players, which he is, want success and money. He's getting neither at Spurs currently and unlike Kane has no attachment to the club.
I think his head will be turned in the summer but he'll likely stay. If Spurs don't win anything or give the CL a decent showing he's gone. He's not the type of character to stick around IMHO.
He's certainly sowing the seed and ultimately it's not hard to see why. Top players, which he is, want success and money. He's getting neither at Spurs currently and unlike Kane has no attachment to the club.
I think his head will be turned in the summer but he'll likely stay. If Spurs don't win anything or give the CL a decent showing he's gone. He's not the type of character to stick around IMHO.
I agree with you but Poch system isn't built around any individual. It's showed this season without injuries to Alderweild, Lamela, Winks, Dembele, Kane x 2 and Rose. It's something that's rarely mentioned but we never really suffered overly considering how important these players are to our team. It's why I rate Poch so highly, it's all about the team.
There are other English clubs besides Spurs and United. You don't think it's bullish to believe that United are currently the best English club?