Dele 'Muhammad' Alli | Walker takes the finger from Dele | FIFA open disciplinary proceedings

Sweech said:
I thought Alli's tackle was absolutely horrendous.

Not really in line with that Chelsea game which I still think was a great game.
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I totally agree on the Alli challenge, he lost it for a second or two and was completely wild with the challenge. It was actually a bit out of the blue because temprement wise this season he's done nothing really wrong and has been much more in control of himself than last season.

The mock outrage at the Chelsea game is just trolling and I also think a bit of envy, it was just a great game of football that was played right on the edge and unlike 99.9% of the mundane games last season you couldn't take your eyes of it. There's volatile games like it every season in La Liga and they lap it up.
 
SirHenryPercy said:
I totally agree on the Alli challenge, he lost it for a second or two and was completely wild with the challenge. It was actually a bit out of the blue because temprement wise this season he's done nothing really wrong and has been much more in control of himself than last season.

The mock outrage at the Chelsea game is just trolling and I also think a bit of envy, it was just a great game of football that was played right on the edge and unlike 99.9% of the mundane games last season you couldn't take your eyes of it. There's volatile games like it every season in La Liga and they lap it up.
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My only contention with the Chelsea game is the idea that it was there that Spurs "bottled" it and threw their chance away. This idea is wholly untrue.

If they threw the chance away it was against West Brom, not Chelsea. By then the gap was sealed and Chelsea players were already intimating that they'd throw their game against Leicester to ensure we wouldn't win. I'm sure as much and more was said during the match...so we kicked lumps out of them. I couldn't have asked for more as a fan to be totally honest.

Not to mention a still drunk/hungover Leicester absolutely whiped the floor with Everton in the very next game, so it didn't matter a lick anyway.

The West Brom game was a heartbreaking depression filled dissapointment on par with that Newcastle game. The Chelsea game on the other hand was a season highlight and a massive pick me up that I may never forget.
 
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Sweech said:
My only contention with the Chelsea game is the idea that it was there that Spurs "bottled" it and threw there chance away. This idea is wholly untrue.

If they threw the chance away it was against West Brom, not Chelsea. By then the gap was sealed and Chelsea players were already intimating that they'd throw their game against Leicester to ensure we wouldn't win. I'm sure as much and more was said during the match...so we kicked lumps out of them. I couldn't have asked for more as a fan to be totally honest.

Not to mention a still drunk/hungover Leicester absolutely whiped the floor with Everton in the very next game, so it didn't matter a lick anyway.

The West Brom game was a heartbreaking depression filled dissapointment on par with that Newcastle game. The Chelsea game on the other hand was a season highlight and a massive pick me up that I may never forget.
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The loss to West Ham and drawing with Arsenal who had ten men for the second half was also pretty poor. Better results there would have kept Leicester under big pressure and imo Spurs could have won the title.

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I played witt him when he were younger, even then (being 8 years younger) everyone knew he was destined for big things. Made us all look like Titass Bramble
 
Crazy, we were praising Yaya Toure in 13/14 for having such a great season in terms of goalscoring (20 goals) when he was in peak form. Dele Alli at the age of 20 is already on 16 goals in the PL as an attacking midfielder.
 
VorZakone said:
Crazy, we were praising Yaya Toure in 13/14 for having such a great season in terms of goalscoring (20 goals) when he was in peak form. Dele Alli at the age of 20 is already on 16 goals in the PL as an attacking midfielder.
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If he keeps improving, he will be a monster. His output for a midfielder is astonishing
 
Scoring from midfield.... wow. I mean just scoring full stop is good but from midfield... what a phenomenon.
 
balaks said:
I honestly think he is the biggest English talent since Scholes.
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I feel Rooney was more exciting, though that may just be an aesthetic thing down to the style of the players. Although, it's not like Alli doesn't have a penchant for wonder goals and great pieces of skill himself.
 
Massive Spanner said:
When is he going to feck off to Real anyway?
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As a Spurs supporter I'm realistic in thinking Alli will leave us at some point compared to someone like Kane who I believe we'll have for a very long time. It will also likely be a move to Real as we won't sell within the PL and Real is the only other option with the money.

That said I think Alli will stay until around 22 or 23. So 2 or 3 years more.
 
DWelbz19 said:
I feel Rooney was more exciting, though that may just be an aesthetic thing down to the style of the players. Although, it's not like Alli doesn't have a penchant for wonder goals and great pieces of skill himself.
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Yup agree with that. TBH Rooney as a youngster was sensational and we shouldn't forget that.. he was pacier, more Roy of the Roversesque but I feel Delle Alli has a superior mentality and athleticism and will go on to be the better player in the context of his position.

He seems so comfortable in international games and I feel in a strong side he'll be exceptional in Europe too.
 
DWelbz19 said:
I feel Rooney was more exciting, though that may just be an aesthetic thing down to the style of the players. Although, it's not like Alli doesn't have a penchant for wonder goals and great pieces of skill himself.
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Think Alli will have longevity which will be the difference and he will only get better.
 
Rooney arguably had a season where he was the 3rd best player in the world. In the Messi and Ronaldo era aswell. I'll be amazed if Alli has a peak that high. I just think Gerrard and Rooney are simply better footballers than Alli to be honest.
 
Raees said:
Yup agree with that. TBH Rooney as a youngster was sensational and we shouldn't forget that.. he was pacier, more Roy of the Roversesque but I feel Delle Alli has a superior mentality and athleticism and will go on to be the better player in the context of his position.

He seems so comfortable in international games and I feel in a strong side he'll be exceptional in Europe too.
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Alli is also far less reliant on his pace and physique than Rooney was.

He's just very intelligent and mature which is crazy for his age. He really is special.
 
BigDunc9 said:
Rooney arguably had a season where he was the 3rd best player in the world. In the Messi and Ronaldo era aswell. I'll be amazed if Alli has a peak that high. I just think Gerrard and Rooney are simply better footballers than Alli to be honest.
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I would agree to an extent that he probably hasn't shown the "level" to indicate he can be better than them at their peak, but to be doing what he's doing at his age is pretty remarkable and I don't think you can rule it out that he could be better than them.
 
Massive Spanner said:
I would agree to an extent that he probably hasn't shown the "level" to indicate he can be better than them at their peak, but to be doing what he's doing at his age is pretty remarkable and I don't think you can rule it out that he could be better than them.
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I do agree that he is performing as they was at the same age. Probably much better than Gerrard even. I just don't think he has got the ability to step up to the level they achieved.
 
BigDunc9 said:
I do agree that he is performing as they was at the same age. Probably much better than Gerrard even. I just don't think he has got the ability to step up to the level they achieved.
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Rooney arguably never achieved the level he should have, though. It's easy to forget how ridiculous he was when he was young at times. I don't see why Alli can't go on to do what they did.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Rooney arguably never achieved the level he should have, though. It's easy to forget how ridiculous he was when he was young at times. I don't see why Alli can't go on to do what they did.
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See my post above. You could still make the case for him peaking as the 3rd best player in the world for one season.
 
Massive Spanner said:
09/10 I think.
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Thought it would be, can't say I agree that he was the third best player that season imo though, the likes of Xaviesta certainly come to mind. (Though admittedly, the seasons tend to blur into each other because of my crappy memory)
 
BigDunc9 said:
I just think Gerrard and Rooney are simply better footballers than Alli to be honest.
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Definitely. Alli is a fantastic goalscorer though. Southgate needs to free him up for England and allow him to move into space and be a second striker.
 
People need to wait and see. Last year at the Euros I saw him in person against Russia and he spent the whole game bricking it and offered very little. In Europe this year he has offered little to nothing. Other players who he's being compared with in this thread were already making massive impacts on these platforms at his age.

He's done very well in the PL in the middle and later part of the season, but you have to bare in mind this is the same PL that Leicester won last year, and where a team can go from mid table to runaway winners overnight...it's not a reliable platform to measure a player's quality on. Currently the top scorer is Lukaku and last year Jamie Vardy was voted player of the year.
 
Zoo said:
Definitely. Alli is a fantastic goalscorer though. Southgate needs to free him up for England and allow him to move into space and be a second striker.
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That's the thing.

16 goals already. Even if you call him a "shadow striker" he's got more goals at 20 years old than most of the league's strikers do or have ever done in a season.

Also, isn't 16 goals Giroud's best ever total?
 
Wow a potentially genuinely world class English player. United missed out big time. He's going to break the transfer record fee for an English player. In all honesty if United could sign him I'd probably even choose him over Griezmann and I really want Griezmann here
 
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