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This sounds shit. Will not watch. First one was decent, second one not great and even the most passionate defences of this movie make it sound fecking awful. Clearly one for Marvel megageeks only.
My viewpoint aswell. They done what they set out to do, very fecking well.I got your point, but my feeling to it was that Deadpool is quite literally an insane character whose world the reader/watcher gets a snapshot of, so the least likely character to bound to the strictures of congruence - his films don’t have to be about anything; they don’t have to link or be well threaded, so I think you’ve taken a tangent that doesn’t have to be applied, especially so when, throughout the film, they make it clear why they’re doing what they’re doing, which is a repair job on a MCU that has lost its way. They’ve told the viewer they know and are going to try and fix it. Which other film can that be done through other than the batshit world of Deadpool and its constant 4th wall breaks?
If they weren’t repeatedly telling the audience they are in on the zaniness whilst also explaining why they’re doing it, I’d even say your point holds up, but we’re being spoon-fed an apology and attempted repair, which to me, was a clever way of going about it rather than them making a film with no substance to it. So long as you laughed and were entertained, it’s a job well done. If not, then yeah there’s a problem in using the film to attempt to fix so much wrong with the universe it coexists in.
They set out to do the best they could. They set out to make a critically sound and commercially profitable movie. That doesn't mean the movie is not mediocre.My viewpoint aswell. They done what they set out to do, very fecking well.
I didn't like it either. As you say, the motivations/events that trigger the story are irritatingly inane, but worse the whole film feels random and uninteresting. It's always the problem with this multiverse crap, that anything could happen but only the convenient does - which is of course at the heart of any storytelling, but bothers me with the multiverse stuff. But more generally, Far From Home to me felt like a long and expensive) episode from a series, and No Way Home wasn't much better.Apart from building its entire success on other films (in this case films that isn't even MCU films)?
The motivation for anything to happen (what was that, Spidey didn't get into the university he wanted so he wanted Strange to alter the reality?) does not really hold up IMO. Then Spidey interfers with Strange doing the spell despite being told he couldn't. Roll forward Strange are doing another spell, and instead of just doing the same spell again they decide to make everyone forget, despite what was effed up the first time wasn't his particular wishes, it was that he interfered with it. Then the outcome doesn't really make much sense when Spidey talks to Iron Man's friend in front of May's grave.
I'm not gonna say I din't enjoy seeing Tobey and Willem and Alfred and so on. But I just think that isn't much to the films own merit.
You don't need to have seen any of the properties post endgame. There was only one joke relating to this and you'll get it because it's poking fun.I didn't like it either. As you say, the motivations/events that trigger the story are irritatingly inane, but worse the whole film feels random and uninteresting. It's always the problem with this multiverse crap, that anything could happen but only the convenient does - which is of course at the heart of any storytelling, but bothers me with the multiverse stuff. But more generally, Far From Home to me felt like a long and expensive) episode from a series, and No Way Home wasn't much better.
I'm looking forward to this new Deadpool film though. Not that I will get many of those references (I have only seen like 3 of the films after Endgame and none of the series), but it should be fun.
Doesn't mean the movie is mediocre either.They set out to do the best they could. They set out to make a critically sound and commercially profitable movie. That doesn't mean the movie is not mediocre.
You know, that is just not as smart or smart-ass an answer as you appear to think it is.Doesn't mean the movie is mediocre either.
Nah, this one will still work whenever you watch in the future, the problem with no way home was absurd story choices that made no sense which get highlighted once nostalgia wears off. Deadpool is not trying to tell a compelling story, it's basically a stand up set with a bunch of jokes with no attempt to take itself seriously and it works fine that way.So I saw it. It's not awful, I'll say that. It's a fun ride and I genuinely like seeing Hugh in that role so that was nice (even if the only thing he did was telling Deadpool to shut up).
If they're not really gonna attempt at making an actual film I think they should leave out all the emotional scenes.
I did like the credits scene in the beginning, that was really nicely done. But yeah, Marvel now needs to come up with some coherent plots from now otherwise it'll be bye bye bye for them. This got good reception, but like No Way Home I think it'll age like milk.
I don't think the writers of the Deadpool movie can deliver a funny joke, judging from their work.Nah, this one will still work whenever you watch in the future, the problem with no way home was absurd story choices that made no sense which get highlighted once nostalgia wears off. Deadpool is not trying to tell a compelling story, it's basically a stand up set with a bunch of jokes with no attempt to take itself seriously and it works fine that way.
Exactly. Reminds me of that unfunny Mike Myers comeback attempt.80% of the jokes are Ryan Reynolds saying feck in a funny voice whilst pointing out that someone is wearing an outfit and/or was in a bad film. Timeless stuff
I think all the cameos that make people cheer is sort of the same in that way. I also don't think the humor is timeless at all.Nah, this one will still work whenever you watch in the future, the problem with no way home was absurd story choices that made no sense which get highlighted once nostalgia wears off. Deadpool is not trying to tell a compelling story, it's basically a stand up set with a bunch of jokes with no attempt to take itself seriously and it works fine that way.
Clearly one for Marvel megageeks only.
The only part of the story from No way Home that bugged me was Dr Strange suddenly becoming an idiot and not stopping the spell/making sure Peter understood beforehand not to tamper with itNah, this one will still work whenever you watch in the future, the problem with no way home was absurd story choices that made no sense which get highlighted once nostalgia wears off. Deadpool is not trying to tell a compelling story, it's basically a stand up set with a bunch of jokes with no attempt to take itself seriously and it works fine that way.
Even the setup was stupid, outside of peter being rejected by the college there was literally no reason to go the drastic route, if you were going to kill the aunt, they should have killed her before peter goes to strange atleast that way there is actual motivation and logic for doing something this drastic for both peter and strange.The only part of the story from No way Home that bugged me was Dr Strange suddenly becoming an idiot and not stopping the spell/making sure Peter understood beforehand not to tamper with it
They really are, aren't they? I wish marvel never went the time travel/multiverse route at all. It cheapens everything and makes it feel like nothing mattersMultiverse storylines are shite.
Are you that TVA guy?It was exactly what I expected it to be going in - and it was enjoyable. If you don’t like the others you won’t like this one. The highlight of the film is Jackman’s body though - 55 years old…damn son.
Yeah, stories work best when there is jeopardy, actual stakes and when decisions and events matter. Multiverses and time travel destroy all of that. In the films just as in the comics, it's a terrible route to go down if you want people to remain invested in your universe and characters.Saw it yesterday and it was alright. While not offensive, thought it'd be funnier. Didn't realize there'd be so many cameos (nor grasp how they're all related). And tbh, all the slashing/stabbing in the nuts/Deadpool variations get old after a while. Multiverse storylines are shite.
Yeah, stories work best when there is jeopardy, actual stakes and when decisions and events matter. Multiverses and time travel destroy all of that. In the films just as in the comics, it's a terrible route to go down if you want people to remain invested in your universe and characters.
Remember how douchey Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man was? This is worse.Some funny moments but very meh
The marvel fox jokes got annoying 5 minutes in. Must have been at least 50 jokes on the corporate merger.
also the storyline was baaad. Its a superhero movie, did not expect something spectacular but the exposition dumps and the nostalgia bait cameos were hella annoying.
Hotel? Trivago.Watched it yesterday.
Was it funny? Yes most of it
Did it have too many easter eggs? Probably
Did it have any plot? Not really
Was it a good deadpool movie? Yes. I prefer the first 2 though.
Is it art? It's a bubblegum movie. Which is fine for deadpool.
The cameos are not part of the story. It's like saying the hat enhanced the chrome dome.I thought this was a lot of fun and very enjoyable. Even without the cameos the story still works.
The cameos just enhanced the story.
And it was nice that they tied stuff to the ending of Logan without dismissing it completely, and then gave finishes to some of the other fox stuff.
Some of the other cameos were nicely done too. It was a lot of fun
Im not sure what point youre making as opposed to mine. Every cameo had a purpose to the story that was playing out, bar maybe one.The cameos are not part of the story. It's like saying the hat enhanced the chrome dome.
Ye old Cafe diversionary tactics. Yeah, no.Im not sure what point youre making as opposed to mine. Every cameo had a purpose to the story that was playing out, bar maybe one.
Funny you say that, because you could point out how it didnt to refute it, but instead look at your responseYe old Cafe diversionary tactics. Yeah, no.
I'm hesitating between comprehension problems, and dishonesty (due to fanboyism). I suspect you have the latter. It is much more prevalent on the internet.Funny you say that, because you could point out how it didnt to refute it, but instead look at your response
Your argument is that the cameos are not part of the story. Great.
My point was that the cameos were fun and enhanced the story that was in place. Every cameo (bar the one that I can think of) that appeared helped to enhance the story that was being told. It wasnt just, look, here they are, ok next scene.
If you didnt enjoy it, fine. But its bad faith to just say, what you did.