DJ_21
Evens winner of 'Odds or Evens 2022/2023'
What a wonderful description of an actual human being.Fat, injury prone, slow and over priced.
What a wonderful description of an actual human being.Fat, injury prone, slow and over priced.
It’s written in the stars mate. And to top it off we’ll pay 10m more after the mistakeHe is going to end up playing against England in the Euros Semi's and is going to drop a howler of a mistake. I can sense it.
This is coming from someone who wants this signing as well btw.
He is going to end up playing against England in the Euros Semi's and is going to drop a howler of a mistake. I can sense it.
This is coming from someone who wants this signing as well btw.
I still don’t understand why is Bayern selling him
My day is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable
Biggest mistake since selling Kroos
Like, I understand that this is the easiest position to cut some wages, as our depth in the position is good, but still this feels like a mistake.
I genuinely believe he could be a cornerstone of the team to build around and a potential future captain. It's exactly the kind of player that we should try to keep around the club
man, feck Kompany
literally selling our best defender to a dying club
Selling MDL for anything below €70 mil is a braindead decision.
Mate, this place would even moan about prime Messi so I doubt it.
Anyway, the way this deal is progressing make it seems very likely that he will be joining us soon after the conclusion of EUROs. I am not used to us signing someone of this profile this smoothly and quickly, so I am having this weird feeling that something bizzare will happen soon...
Barca may not want him anymore and his contract goes only for another 2 years if I’m not mistaken. Good chance that we come back for him next year, ETH loves him.No way he will ever leave Barca for Utd
Why limit yourself to next year, plenty of the summer to goIt looks like we're going to have De Ligt and Martinez with Onana behind them. You would assume that we should at least be able to see some progress in playing it out from the back like Ajax
De Jong next year anyone.
Some of the quotes from bayern subreddit:
man, feck Kompany
literally selling our best defender to a dying club
Well, if De Ligt has played more in two seasons than Martinez, which one's the injury prone?So he played more minutes than someone who was out for the entire season? That’s mad.
Ouch, that one stung a bit
Bit rich from a club that just hired Burnley's relegated manager as well
I don't see how this can be true at all.I think, with this guy, we’ll soon find out the grass isn’t always greener. Finding it difficult to justify this purchase when we have, (in my opinion), a player of similar caliber in Maguire.
Why limit yourself to next year, plenty of the summer to go
Presume he is coming on crazy wages?
Been covered many times. Van Dijk is their main defender and de Vrij has been very reliable next to him so there's no need to mess with that by trying to integrate de Ligt. He simply has great competition.Any idea why he's not making the starting lineup for the Dutch at Euros?
Ouch, that one stung a bit
His salary would be taxed at 45%, so hardly any difference from Germany.probably because he can keep a lot more here than lose in tax.
The alternatives are better.Any idea why he's not making the starting lineup for the Dutch at Euros?
I assume because he’s competing with Van Dijk, as the Dutch have essentially fetishised having a left footed centre back.Any idea why he's not making the starting lineup for the Dutch at Euros?
Any idea why he's not making the starting lineup for the Dutch at Euros?
Erik: "we're getting the band back together..."Van Der Beek is due a renaissance
Same question every single page, this isn’t Quora, just have a read man.
Still do not see the infatuation with Branthwaite, especially not at the price tags being brandished, but I love the idea of two CBs. We really need to prioritise CBs who are top notch on the ball because we may not change CBs again for a while.De Ligt and Branthwaite doesn't make great sense to me. I understand Branthwaite is left footed and prefers the left side, but both of them seem to have pretty similar traits. Big[ger], great in the air in both boxes, quite aggressive and no-nonsense.
Surely after signing De Ligt (or Branthwaite) the focus should be more on type of centre back who can double as one of these more "inverted fullback" types -- very fast across the ground and comfortable on the ball? The Ake, Timber, van de Ven type?
(The above paragraph predicated on us selling Lindelof and/or Maguire. I don't see us buying two CBs unless another goes)
That centreback to us speak of that can double up is none other than Martinez. He can play the Gvardiol role perfectly. He won't always have to but will be able to play there with Brantwaithe, De Ligt and Dalot in the back four. That would be very solid. In game we can also switch to a 3 at the back by bringing on Shaw if need be and alternate. Gives us tactical flexibility and a fit Shaw adds another potential CB to the fold too so signing Brantwaithe and De Ligt works perfectly.De Ligt and Branthwaite doesn't make great sense to me. I understand Branthwaite is left footed and prefers the left side, but both of them seem to have pretty similar traits. Big[ger], great in the air in both boxes, quite aggressive and no-nonsense.
Surely after signing De Ligt (or Branthwaite) the focus should be more on type of centre back who can double as one of these more "inverted fullback" types -- very fast across the ground and comfortable on the ball? The Ake, Timber, van de Ven type?
(The above paragraph predicated on us selling Lindelof and/or Maguire. I don't see us buying two CBs unless another goes)
The majority of people overstate physical attributes in football. I was fortunate enough to have a discussion with a former Australian goalkeeper at a foundation day a few years ago and during our conversation he explained to me how the difference between the fastest and slowest players in most teams is very minor. And how timing is considerably more important that strength and speed.
I have seen people on here mention De Ligt ran 32.5km/hr and that makes him the slowest Bundesliga defender. But what is lost in that, is that if he ran 33.5km/hr, then he probably would be in the top 30% of that category.
The difference in the context of football is so minor (this isn't a marathon), and so if a player has the natural defending ability of De Ligt, then his anticipation and timing makes up for the speed he might give up to attackers.
In fact, a 1v1 run is fairly uncommon during a football match, and usually if you're in that situation, then you're probably at fault for an earlier error. Its the same context I used when we signed Martinez, I didn't think his height was an issue because it is so rare that two players jump up for a header when they're shoulder-to-shoulder, instead its typically just whichever player gets to the ball first will win the header. So it all comes down to timing and anticipation.
People reference Maguire, but Maguire has some of the most awful timing I have seen from a United defender, and if you go back and watch his worst moments, its not because he is being out run, but its because he is being left on his ass for doing the wrong thing in the defensive duel.
So for me, unless a player is extremely lacking speed or extremely fast (players like Walker etc), then the physical side of the game is fairly overestimated.
This doesn't tell us much because our defence finished midtable last season.
Told y'all, he's not the type to rate PissG