True. I think best case scenario (assuming Dave wants to go) would be using him as a bargaining chip to get BaleWe're talking about Real here though, not a normal club, if those numpties have a little fan vote and DDG comes up the fans no.1 choice for a purchase this summer, Madrid will overpay to get their man, and appease their fans with another chimps teaparty player parade, 85mill for Bale rings a bell.
Think we can get 25-30mill from them so long as we're patient, touch wood, Chelseas negotiating team would probably get 50mill in the same situation.
True. I think best case scenario (assuming Dave wants to go) would be using him as a bargaining chip to get Bale
Have you ever thought about Zieler? He's your academy product, still young but proven. A top club might be the thing he needs to put his game to the highest level. If it goes wrong, there's still Valdez.
I'd rather sign Karius. Zieler hasn't improved in recent years and seems to have settled with Hannover. Don't think he has the mindset to play for United.
Karius has just half a good seasonb in his pocket, while Zieler has 6 seasons of Bundesliga football and a World Cup.
I don't think Zieler hasn't improved, but rather Hannover became worse and people forgot about him a bit because he isn't the newest new thing in german goalkeepers.
I'm sure he's up for a challenge and he always seemed immensly confident.
He has a clause in the summer and can leave for 8 million €, so why not give him a shot?
Zieler has had periods of mediocrity through those 6 seasons and if he was as good as you are saying, he'd surely play for a better club than Hannover by now. Being selected as third choice keeper by Löw for the World Cup means feck all, he has his personal favourites and has constantly overlooked better performing players. For example Fährmann has been the better goalkeeper for a while now, which wasn't recognised. Ter Stegen is a better goalkeeper as well and he didn't make the squad. Karius wouldn't immediately be first choice for us, I think Valdes should have a chance first, he was quality before he tore his ACL. Karius or another talented keeper could be developed as second choice, playing the cup games or have the occasional appearance.
Would Zieler count as a homegrown player if we sign him?
In which world exactly has Fährmann been better than Zieler? Is mediocre with some occasional signs of brilliance, very occasional ones. Never got a full season as first choice, be it injuries or bad games which ended his spells.
Yes.
You haven't seen him for Schalke then. Fährmann has been quality, since he's become first choice for them. He obviously has had the odd game, where he makes mistakes, but I've seen far more from Zieler. We should end it here, since you think that Zieler is a better keeper and I simply don't.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ls_conceded/catches/punches/saves_per_goal#90
I just won't accept that, because someone who hasn't finished a season without injury or getting benched because of bad perfomances clearly can't keep up with Zieler. Fähmann is just mediocre. Fährmann hasn't even finished one season beeing number one!
any better than valdes?Handanovic
any better than valdes?
6 la ligas, 3 champions leagues and 5 zamora trophies
And two years younger than Van Der Sar was when he joined.
I think if De Gea goes Valdes will at least be given the opportunity to be our no1
How about Diego Benaglio? He's older but would be a decent short-term option for a few years.
Liverpool allegedly signed Andy Carrol for Torres - 15m. We could do a similar deal if de Gea is sold. Tell Madrid our price is whatever we have to pay Chelsea/Spurs for Cech/Lloris plus 30/40m.
Cillessen imo, he was already very good last year and at the WC (bar penalties), but this year he has really upped his game, imo the best if not top3 player of the Eredivisie at least, certainly the best player of Ajax, he gets Ajax so many points with brilliant reflexes, he's a very good shot stopper, good in the air but also good at his feet, and like ddg seems to catch every shot, he'd fit LVG's philosoohy and I think he can make real progress. If not him than ofcourse proven keepers like Lloris.
Begovic wouldn't be an awful bet.
Could be a Mignolet esque signing.